volcom69 Posted March 13, 2023 Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 Losing Bell sucks, sounds like they had the money for either Bell or Pratt and Bell moved on and Pratt got the deal. Was not expecting both safeties to leave this offseason, especially since they were the ones back there getting the defense set. That’s a tough one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted March 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 I wonder what Bell got in Carolina. No news on the Bates front so far, which is a bit interesting since supposedly Atlanta was hot for him, and the Falcons have been very busy today, but he hasn’t been part of it (so far). Cleveland was said to be interested but that was predicated on them release in Johnson, which as far as I know they haven’t. I saw the 9ers mentioned as a possibility too but the more teams get named the more I suspect an agent blowing smoke. Still think he’s gone but it ain’t happened yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMPHAR Posted March 13, 2023 Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, HoosierCat said: I wonder what Bell got in Carolina. No news on the Bates front so far, which is a bit interesting since supposedly Atlanta was hot for him, and the Falcons have been very busy today, but he hasn’t been part of it (so far). Cleveland was said to be interested but that was predicated on them release in Johnson, which as far as I know they haven’t. I saw the 9ers mentioned as a possibility too but the more teams get named the more I suspect an agent blowing smoke. Still think he’s gone but it ain’t happened yet. Reportedly $7m which is about what Pratt got. So I'm guessing it was an either/or but not both, who wants to get paid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted March 13, 2023 Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 Prob money for Pratt or Bell but not both. Love love love Von Bell but he will be 30 at end of the contract he just signed - Bengals MO has been of late not to do that third deal. Hard to say they've been wrong with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted March 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, AMPHAR said: Reportedly $7m which is about what Pratt got. So I'm guessing it was an either/or but not both, who wants to get paid? Would make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMPHAR Posted March 13, 2023 Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 Gardner Johnson would be an excellent pick up and he's mixing it up on twitter with some Bengals players. It sounds like Zac Carter and Hilton are recruiting him. I would be floored if this were to happen because I assumed he gonna be right there in Bates market. Maybe Bengals have a $13-15m deal out there for higher level safeties? First come, first served. Who know? I would be shocked and awed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COB Posted March 13, 2023 Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 We’ve had great safety play these last couple years. So good that I kind of took it for granted. Dax Hill is going to grow up fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted March 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 Lol https://sports.yahoo.com/bengals-fans-teammates-call-b-193430497.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COB Posted March 13, 2023 Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 Jessie Bates’ agent is a fucking idiot. He got that contract for Watson which I don’t think turned out to be good for either party. They already had to re-do it. He’s probably playing hardball but if he waits too long his market is going to shrink. NFL owners don’t bid against themselves, unless we’re talking about a certain truck stop fraudster who takes draft advice from derelicts outside a 7-11. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted March 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 Three sure things in life: death, taxes and Chicago loves LBs https://www.nfl.com/news/bears-signing-ex-bills-lb-tremaine-edmunds-to-four-year-72-million-deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COB Posted March 13, 2023 Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 minute ago, HoosierCat said: Three sure things in life: death, taxes and Chicago loves LBs https://www.nfl.com/news/bears-signing-ex-bills-lb-tremaine-edmunds-to-four-year-72-million-deal Glad we signed Pratt before that deal got out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted March 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 13 minutes ago, COB said: Glad we signed Pratt before that deal got out. Eh, Pratt wasn’t getting that kind of coin but I wouldn’t be surprised if both he and Edwards aren’t a bit…grumpy at the news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted March 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 Well, that’s that: Safety Jessie Bates III is expected to sign a four-year, $64.02 million deal with the Atlanta Falcons, according to ESPN's Schefter. The deal includes $23 million in year one and $36 million in the first two years of the deal, per source. Edit: since been updated to $65.02 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COB Posted March 13, 2023 Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 Damn, good for you Jessie Bates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volcom69 Posted March 13, 2023 Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 Just like that the duo is gone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted March 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 3 hours ago, COB said: Patrick Peterson sending signals he’s not worrying about Ohio Workers Compensation regs. Dude would be a hell of an addition, assuming he’s a good fit culture-wise. Can really play. Signing with Pitt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted March 13, 2023 Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 Always knew Bates was gone. Thought we would be able to keep Bell to pair with Dax. Bengals need to be hot on a replacement. Not worried though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted March 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 Pratt: came back because I want to win. https://www.bengals.com/news/bengals-extend-germaine-pratt-we-re-close-i-want-to-win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COB Posted March 13, 2023 Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 I’m in shock over that bates contract. He’ll make more in his first year than Pratt will over his whole deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted March 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 5 minutes ago, COB said: I’m in shock over that bates contract. He’ll make more in his first year than Pratt will over his whole deal. I am sure his money castle will be of great use every January, when he can sit in it and watch the Bengals in the playoffs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted March 13, 2023 Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 Yeah I get leaving for more but in both of those cases, the only way they get to the playoffs is by buying a ticket. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted March 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 Actually good signing by the Clowns unfortunately. The Cleveland Browns have agreed to a three-year deal with DE Ogbonnia Okoronkwo. Okoronkwo will likely replace Jadeveon Clowney as Cleveland's defensive end starter opposite Myles Garrett. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COB Posted March 13, 2023 Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 I heard on the radio, Bates just became the 4th highest paid safety ever in the league. Honestly, I love the guy’s game, but he hasn’t been the top tier player he was his first few years. He showed up in the playoffs this year, no doubt. But regular season the last couple years he’s been good, that’s it, a good player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShulaSteakhouse Posted March 14, 2023 Report Share Posted March 14, 2023 Hope an upgrade to Bell is still possible and in the cards, at a lower cost. $13m guaranteed for Bell, yikes. The Bengals' don't like those deals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted March 14, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2023 $13m guaranteed on a $22.5m deal isn’t really unusual. Guarantees these days normally run about half the total of deal, unless your name is Watson. That can be done, say 4/5/6 in salary with year one and a $7m SB guaranteed for hits of 6.3/7.3/8.3 or thereabouts. In fact this appears to be roughly what they did for Pratt: https://bengalswire.usatoday.com/2023/03/13/germaine-pratt-bengals-contract-details-explained/ $7m guaranteed SB, $3m year one for $10m total up front for a $5.4m cap hit this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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