HoosierCat Posted March 20, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2023 CJGJ to the Lions. 1 year, up to $8 million. Had a multi-year offer from the Eagles but wanted more $$$. Clearly didn't find it so he'll try again next year. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35900311/source-lions-agree-1-year-deal-cj-gardner-johnson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted March 20, 2023 Report Share Posted March 20, 2023 Sounds like Bates' situation. Had an offer and thought he was worth more. Difference obviously being that Bates wasn't a free agent. We could have gotten in on that one year deal, but if we weren't paying Bates that kind of coin, we aren't paying someone else outside the organization that coin either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted March 20, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2023 God-El gets in on the action. Quote Roger Goodell and NFL owners are expected to finalize a multi-year contract extension for the commissioner at next week's owners meetings in Phoenix, league sources told ESPN. The NFL's compensation committee is slated to present the proposed extension to team owners during a special privileged session Tuesday afternoon. Only one member from each team is permitted in that meeting. Goodell's extension has been in the works since last season, when the compensation committee was granted permission by the full membership to get an extension done, according to sources. The sides have discussed a three-year extension, according to sources, but no length of time has been agreed to yet. The NFL has declined to comment. The economic framework of Goodell's new deal is not known but is expected to be incentive-laden and, considering the league's financial success, the most lucrative deal ever given to any commissioner in any sport. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35905396/sources-nfl-owners-expected-finalize-roger-goodell-extension Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted March 20, 2023 Report Share Posted March 20, 2023 Wonder if the owners are giving him a fully guaranteed contract ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMPHAR Posted March 21, 2023 Report Share Posted March 21, 2023 Moreau is supposedly on his 2nd visit to the Nati. Hopefully something gets done. He had a nice TD catch over Wilson the last time they played in Vegas. Didn't have any catches in the Wild Card game. I would have rather had Hurst but I could see him making plays on this team. I don't think it would close the door on other TEs either. Would like it more if it is multi year deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted March 21, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2023 Moreau is just 25, is crazy athletic, has four years of nfl experience and played with Joe at LSU in 2018. It just makes way too much sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMPHAR Posted March 21, 2023 Report Share Posted March 21, 2023 Post Free Agent period power rankings still have Bengals checking in at 3. Below Chiefs and Eagles and above the Bills. Personally, I think the Chiefs have not had a kind off season. Don't expect them to fall of the map but in terms of No. 1 seed the Broncos have gotten better on paper. The Chiefs have had some key pieces leave. Hopefully they won't have the cake walk in the division. Buffalo seems parked in neutral. Jets, Miami, Pats have all made up ground. The competition level in the North is tied up in Lamar Jackson drama. I think the Browns will be the media fun 2nd choice to surprise to win the North. The South - I'm not sure any team in that spot can compete for the No. 1 seed. Maybe a second team sneaks up into the WC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted March 21, 2023 Report Share Posted March 21, 2023 1 hour ago, HoosierCat said: Moreau is just 25, is crazy athletic, has four years of nfl experience and played with Joe at LSU in 2018. It just makes way too much sense. I really haven't spent time looking him up. Great points... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted March 21, 2023 Report Share Posted March 21, 2023 10 minutes ago, AMPHAR said: I think the Browns will be the media fun 2nd choice to surprise to win the North. Same story, new season. Wash, rinse, repeat. By repeat, I mean fail. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted March 21, 2023 Report Share Posted March 21, 2023 Well when looking at both Hurst's and Moreau's stats from last season, they are fairly close. Hurst- 52 catches on 68 targets, 414 yards and 2 TD's, 26 first down catches, 8 yards per catch Moreau- 33 catches on 54 targets, 420 yards and 2 TD's, 24 first down catches, 13 yards per catch Looking at that alone, it's not hard to see Moreau have the same impact that Hurst had in 2022. However, and this is big, he was the worst blocking TE in the league last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted March 21, 2023 Report Share Posted March 21, 2023 https://bengalswire.usatoday.com/2023/03/20/cody-ford-contract-details-bengals-free-agency/ says Ford signed for vet min with no guarantees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted March 21, 2023 Report Share Posted March 21, 2023 If Moreau cant block, my interest in him is very limited TE has to do both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted March 21, 2023 Report Share Posted March 21, 2023 My bad, I didn't give the perspective from run blocking vs. pass blocking. Duh, that's kind of important. Last in run blocking... Here, read for yourself: Quote Moreau endured a miserable season as a run blocker, with his 40.8 run-blocking grade placing dead last out of 23 tight ends who had at least 300 run-blocking snaps in 2022. His 2.8% positive run-block rate ranked last, and his 22.1% negative run-block rate was the second worst among his peers. That being said, he finished last season ranked 12th at the position with a 69.7 receiving grade and was the only tight end to log at least 40 pass-blocking snaps (63) and not surrender a single pressure. Moreau ranked first by converting 70.6% of his catches into either a first down or a touchdown, and 35.3% of his catches were explosive plays that went for at least 15 yards, the third-best rate among tight ends in 2022. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted March 21, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2023 24 minutes ago, TJJackson said: https://bengalswire.usatoday.com/2023/03/20/cody-ford-contract-details-bengals-free-agency/ says Ford signed for vet min with no guarantees That’s because he was a massive bust. Here’s a recap of his time in Buffalo. He makes Carmen look like a good choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted March 21, 2023 Report Share Posted March 21, 2023 So the competition for starting RT is between Ford (bust), Carman (bust), the towel boy, and the little girl that runs out on the field and grabs the kicking tee ?? Am I wrong in rooting for the little girl ?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted March 21, 2023 Report Share Posted March 21, 2023 Looks like Adeniji is our ORT in 2023 at the moment How was Moreau's pass blocking? (you can just link the article in question if you'd prefer) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted March 21, 2023 Report Share Posted March 21, 2023 That's all they had on him, but here you go... https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-final-2022-tight-end-rankings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted March 21, 2023 Report Share Posted March 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, TJJackson said: Looks like Adeniji is our ORT in 2023 at the moment Oh yeah, Adeniji. I almost forgot about him. Let's go little girl, you can do it Jenny !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted March 21, 2023 Report Share Posted March 21, 2023 21 minutes ago, HoosierCat said: That’s because he was a massive bust. Here’s a recap of his time in Buffalo. He makes Carmen look like a good choice. I guess we will see if a change of scenery and OL schemes is good for him or not. The contract makes it a zero risk proposition - no dead money if he gets cut My best guess is that Pollack must have seen something he liked I didn't watch the video, but is his off-field baggage anywhere near as bad as Carman's? I think his main issue was (or is) staying healthy. Army: I decided not to make a joke linking "Jenny" with Carman. Not going there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted March 21, 2023 Report Share Posted March 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, ArmyBengal said: Oh yeah, Adeniji. I almost forgot about him. Let's go little girl, you can do it Jenny !!! Scharping is a possibility as well. he was drafted as an OT a very dark horse, but we have no white horses in the stable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted March 21, 2023 Report Share Posted March 21, 2023 I'd refer a TE that can block, but would still welcome Moreau gladly. The importance of receiver capacity well outweighs the importance of blocking at that position anymore. Scheme it up, boys. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted March 21, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2023 39 minutes ago, Stripes said: I'd refer a TE that can block, but would still welcome Moreau gladly. The importance of receiver capacity well outweighs the importance of blocking at that position anymore. Scheme it up, boys. Yeah, I give zero shits about run blocking at TE. Pass protection, yes, and it appears he is fine there. I just want someone signed before the draft so they have options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted March 21, 2023 Report Share Posted March 21, 2023 Haven't heard anything about his asking price. Maybe that is the hang up ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted March 21, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2023 11 minutes ago, ArmyBengal said: Haven't heard anything about his asking price. Maybe that is the hang up ?? The TE market is utterly dead (I mean Schultz ended up taking a one year deal with Houston, I believe) so I’m sure that’s part of the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted March 21, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2023 So…if the reports of Lamar wanting a fully guaranteed deal were ever true, they apparently are not any more. From CBS: Quote Jackson is not hellbent on receiving a fully guaranteed contract, according to the report, but he is pursuing a highly lucrative multiyear deal that would be in the neighborhood of at least $200 million. Also, a (checks calendar) week after FA opened, Lamar has decided it’s time to begin: Quote contacting teams in an effort to create a possible landing spot Fast off the mark, I see. Also also, it’s not Lamar himself reaching out but a “representative.” So he doesn’t have an agent except maybe he sort of does now? The pft story linked says he’s now repped by someone “not certified by the NFLPA.” Also that the $200m number may be his guarantee demand, with more unguaranteed coin beyond. Anyhow, maybe we will see some movement here, our maybe not, who knows. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/lamar-jackson-representative-reaches-out-to-teams-tells-them-qb-is-ready-to-move-on-from-ravens-per-report/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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