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TJJackson Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 18 minutes ago, HoosierCat said: Clearly your wife is more than qualified to work in the Bengals’ FO. actually, no, she's qualified to REPLACE the Bengals FO. She clearly could not work with those fools, as she has some common sense 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TJJackson Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 quite honestly, if the money is 10M or so, I really dont want them to sign Golladay. In another year when we dont have so many holes, yeah, 10M for a Golladay type is fine, perhaps even a bargain but that money needs to go to OLine and DLine period another couple of reasons i dont want Golladay both relate to the fact that the proposed Golladay deal is only a 1 year deal. First, we're not going to win anything next year. Gonna take longer to rebuild, assuming we ever do. Second, I dont want Burrow spending all that time getting in sync with Golladay then lose that progress/effort after 1 year. so sign me up as a BIG OLE NO on Golladay....at least, as things stand. ------- Im still holding out hope that Havenstein can be traded for, and his salary will of course count against what remains of our cap also.....the Titans let their starting ORT go yesterday.....average player, started all 16 games upgrade over Hart tho (but then again, my dead gramma would be as well) https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/dennis-kelly/7146 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 Joisey, are you Logi? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShulaSteakhouse Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 I'm completely baffled by the complete lack of attention given to the interior o-line, and the sincere need for stability there via a vet FA who's actually an upgrade to what they have. I don't know what they see in Sua (garbage) or Jordan or Price or any of the other crap players at that position, at this point, and now they have a mediocre Center coming off an injury. Building your o-line through the draft takes years, and they have almost no building blocks there outside of Jonah (who is still pure potential and wasn't exactly a world-beater last year either). They don't need more rookies and UFA's on the o-line, they need proveen vets who can help Burrow and protect him, and open up the running game. It's insanity what this franchise is doing 2 years in a row now - the record speaks for itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 I am just as frustrated as you, Steakhouse Bringing in Reiff is a step in the right direction, albeit IMO too damn little too damn late. They could have been talking to Reiff weeks ago, as he was released before FA opened and was ergo a street FA Sadly, they are still spending all their time and effort on stuff like Kenny Golladay, when their effort and money should be going into the lines That said, despite all their whiffs so far there are still solid unspectacular guys out there that would be upgrades for us........like Dennis Kelly, who was the starting ORT for the Titans in 2020 until they released him yesterday. My big frustration is that this has been true all along.....guys are still out there, guys are still out there......but we've seen no indication that the Bengals are making any attempt to talk to any of them. Reiff being *the* single exception to this, and I worry that he is coming in only as a courtesy to Chad Johnson Yeah, the old line about not valuing guards.....who spent huge money on Guards? The Chiefs, thats who. You'd think the AFC Champions would know a little bit about setting proper priorities......in this case, protecting their young star QB. Protecting a young star QB, wow, what a concept :-) all of this nonsense also locks them into drafting at least 2 and very arguably 3 OLs with the first 4 picks of the draft, and certainly pick 5 (or pick whatever if they trade down, which I still think they should so) Just sad........amazing how I can set such low expectations for the Bengals year after year and they manage to underwhelm even then 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMPHAR Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 Riley Reiff was only released last week. His rumored released was speculated much earlier but the Vikings were trying to restructure and failed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted March 18, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 2 hours ago, TJJackson said: Joisey, are you Logi? No. He’s alright tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 its sad that all these Twitter folks are promoting a Golladay signing with the GollaDEY hashtag when the existing IY offer terms are all about benefiting HIM not us every WR out there wants a 1 year deal to bridge them to a higher cap number year, ie 2022. the current 1Y contract proposal on the table for Golladay is more of the same....its sad that the Bengals participated in such a thing I am all in favor of signing Golladay if he is here for the next 3 or 4 years.....for the Burrow rookie contract years but not as a 1 year deal that is all about Golladay, not all about the Bengals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShulaSteakhouse Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 2 hours ago, TJJackson said: I am just as frustrated as you, Steakhouse Bringing in Reiff is a step in the right direction, albeit IMO too damn little too damn late. They could have been talking to Reiff weeks ago, as he was released before FA opened and was ergo a street FA Sadly, they are still spending all their time and effort on stuff like Kenny Golladay, when their effort and money should be going into the lines That said, despite all their whiffs so far there are still solid unspectacular guys out there that would be upgrades for us........like Dennis Kelly, who was the starting ORT for the Titans in 2020 until they released him yesterday. My big frustration is that this has been true all along.....guys are still out there, guys are still out there......but we've seen no indication that the Bengals are making any attempt to talk to any of them. Reiff being *the* single exception to this, and I worry that he is coming in only as a courtesy to Chad Johnson Yeah, the old line about not valuing guards.....who spent huge money on Guards? The Chiefs, thats who. You'd think the AFC Champions would know a little bit about setting proper priorities......in this case, protecting their young star QB. Protecting a young star QB, wow, what a concept :-) all of this nonsense also locks them into drafting at least 2 and very arguably 3 OLs with the first 4 picks of the draft, and certainly pick 5 (or pick whatever if they trade down, which I still think they should so) Just sad........amazing how I can set such low expectations for the Bengals year after year and they manage to underwhelm even then It's the same old failed philosophy of not wanting to pay Guards & Centers. I don't care how improved their defense is (if everyone doesn't get hurt again), it's all moot if 3/4's of your o-line is bottom of the league stuff - which it currently is. All they're looking at is OT's, when they can get a better version of one of those, in round one, and already have a fall-back in Hart signed. Nothing about Guards, Centers....I don't even care about Reiff - will take him but am more concerned with that interior line. Why would you want a 1.5 year QB to be faced with a f'ing musical chairs lineup in front of him, because you don't want to pay a G or 2? Mike Brown is a f'ing idiot for holding onto this stupid idea that you only pay for certain position groups and not others - you pay everyone and anyone you have to, who is on the field for every snap, if you want to go to and actually WIN playoff games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted March 18, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 I’m fine with bringing Golliday in on a one year deal. If he has a monster season you know they’ll extend him. Mikey may not want to pay for IOL but he never saw a WR he didn’t want to throw a Brink’s truck at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 Steakhouse: regarding "already have a fall-back in Hart signed " I watched as Hart escorted a passrusher to Burrow and he was smiling as he did it. No, he needs to go. Also I dont trust we'll get good passblocking from rookies, even Sewell......and New Guy needs that protection NOW. Let me say this tho....in terms of readiness to start right now, Slater has Sewell beat. Sewell will be better long term, I am sure of that, but Slater is the more polished technician right now. Hoosier: I dont want that moron SoaG throwing his money at shiny new toys. I want him spending it on top tier great very good merely good better than average average-ish passblockers who can keep our most valuable asset - New Guy - on his feet and out of the hospital and if there is a little cash left over, extend Bates Mem: right now, today, this moment - because he is in my opinion more of a day 1 plug-n-play player - I prefer Slater over Sewell. Hate on this all you want, but please understand -- my reasoning comes down to having the best possible protection for your guy from last year - the guy I call New Guy. I'd play Slater at either ORT or OG, depending on how the rest of FA goes. I trust Pollack to put the optimal arrangment out there 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShulaSteakhouse Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 21 minutes ago, HoosierCat said: I’m fine with bringing Golliday in on a one year deal. If he has a monster season you know they’ll extend him. Mikey may not want to pay for IOL but he never saw a WR he didn’t want to throw a Brink’s truck at. Is he signed? I keep seeing people reference it, but no official report from anyone. I'm absolutely good with it - they "should' be set at WR now - or least it opens-up draft flexibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 Golladay is not signed. Just everyone on Twitter trying to make it happen. this was a fun read... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMPHAR Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 Reports are Joe Burrow reached out to Golladay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AMPHAR Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 just saw on another board proclaiming Reiff signed. Hope its not fake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 The candidates at WR continue to dwindle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMPHAR Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 13 minutes ago, TJJackson said: The candidates at WR continue to dwindle Big news for MEM. That could push Chase to Bengals at 5. Bad news for COB as that opens them up for Sewell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 Hoping/praying the Bengals withdraw their current 1Y offer to Golladay the main issue with the current offer is that it is a 1 year deal, which helps Golladay a lot more than it helps us He says he wants to play with Joe....and I get that.....but if thats his real interest, why 1 year only? why not come play with Joe for the next 4 years, ok? the pure self interest in the one year bag of cash and the much higher cap dollars available next year is quite evident Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COB Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 38 minutes ago, AMPHAR said:Bad news for COB as that opens them up for Sewell. Bad news for all Bengals fans as this organization’s strategy with o-line is draft centric. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COB Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 Need an experienced high-level vet to stabilize this line. Had the opportunity, just blew it. Mike strikes again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wraith Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 Wait, what happened? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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