HoosierCat Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 You guys make me laugh.MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!! IT'S MILLER TIME! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 Tell me exactly how we are so much worse off then we were prior to the start of free agency ??MJ was expected but there's no doubt it's a loss of talent on the defensive line. The loss of AC definitely reduces both our starting talent and depth on the o-line. Hawkins is arguably our best receiver after Green and Jones. That also represents a loss. Cook is addition by subtraction. Harrison is a meh: he didn't play badly last season but the SLB slot just isn't as important as it once was. The Bengals play so much nickel/dime the spot doesn't get snaps.Overall, I would say the Bengals have taken some hits so far. Nothing crushing, but these things have a way of adding up. Still plenty of offseason to go. Things could get better. Or worse. We'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cincyhokie Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 You guys make me laugh.MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!! IT'S MILLER TIME! :cheers:/>I'm still holding out for SteelySexSlaveMcBeam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingwilly Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 I for one have never said that I am pissed by any stretch.Lets all take a quick breath and revisit some moves.MJ is gone- Shouldn't shock anyone. Gilberry had 7.5 sacks last season, Geathers is healthy and they drafted Hunt.AC is gone- A bit surprising, but then again, the word is Whit wanted the LT spot and if that's the case, then it shouldn't shock anyone.Cook is gone- Most people LOVE that move.Harrison is gone- How much of an impact was the guy ON THE FIELD ?? Loved the attitude, but he didn't do much.Hawk possibly leaving ??- Most don't think the Bengals should have matched to begin with and they have depth to replace him.MJ leaving is no surprise. I'd prefer hed stay but they do have depth to keep Dline strong.Harrison, not a huge loss. The surprises to me are Cook and Hawk. Cook moving on is a plus. Robinson is a better player. There are a couple of guys in the draft they might consider who would have immediately been better than Cook.As of now, Hawk is a loss but could be a non-loss depending on contributions of others, the draft and the new scheme changes. If anything, it means Eifert/Gresh/Sanu will get more touches.AC leaving does sting but there are vet FAs, and the draft, to get solid depth. Its not like keeping Whit at LT is a downgrade, but Pollack at LG may be a downgrade from Whit. Overall, I think we are fine.Now, they must go get some guys. Make a run at a few key guys and bolster dpeth and talent base. Blount, Freeman, Spikes, Thrumond or Browner.... those would be smart moves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volcom69 Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 I think Pollack is going to be the center Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 I think Pollack is going to be the centerI am serenely confident that Paul Alexander will do whatever makes the least sense and produces the worst results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 A couple bits from Hobson's latest:The Bengals released SAM linebacker James Harrison Thursday and it had nothing to do with the Andrew Hawkins’ offer sheet that finally floated into Paul Brown Stadium from Cleveland earlier in the day.But it had everything to do with youth as the Bengals get ready to put their young linebackers on display at the SAM spot, led by Vincent Rey and Emmanuel Lamur and the return of last year’s fourth-round pick Sean Porter.OK, that helps the timing of the release make some sense. They may have been waiting to see of Vinny drew any interest. So far (and much to my delight) it doesn't appear that he has. So they felt safe letting Harrison walk.The Bengals have to figure out if they want to make Hawkins the second highest paid receiver on the team after he finished a season used mainly as the No. 4 receiver in an offense that also throws heavily to three receivers, two tight ends and a running back and is emphasizing the running game under new coordinator Hue Jackson.But, they also don’t want to give a division rival one of the more explosive space players in the league and a guy that Jackson has been hoping to use as runner as well as a receiver.I thought so. If this were a non-division team it wouldn't even be a question. But it's the Browns, so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottishbengal Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 I thought so. If this were a non-division team it wouldn't even be a question. But it's the Browns, so...I thought this might have an impact on the decision whether to match or not. $13.6million is lot to spend on a 4th receiver though.Hope Harrison going means we'll get confirmation that Vinny Rey has been re-signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottishbengal Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 http://www.cincyjungle.com/2014/3/13/5504210/browns-push-to-sign-julian-edelman-after-losing-andrew-hawkinsConfusing situation over Hawkins ....is he staying, is he going to Cleveland ..... ????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 http://www.cincyjungle.com/2014/3/13/5504210/browns-push-to-sign-julian-edelman-after-losing-andrew-hawkinsConfusing situation over Hawkins ....is he staying, is he going to Cleveland ..... ?????That's an earlier story./>Http://www.cincyjungle.com/2014/3/13/5504964/browns-offer-andrew-hawkins-10-million-over-first-2-years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 I think Pollack is going to be the centerI am serenely confident that Paul Alexander will do whatever makes the least sense and produces the worst results. :goof:/>All Hail Alexander best Oline coach in the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volcom69 Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 The funny thing about Paul Alexander is he does something right with Tackles. Since he has been here look at all the tackles he brought up, and how many of them left for bigger money. I don't think Paul is a horrible coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 Alexander has been given top talent, he hasn't developed itWhitworth r2 pickFlesh Zeppelin r1 pickAnthony Collins r4 pick (r1 rated but had injury issues)Levi Jones r1 pickWillie Anderson r1 pick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volcom69 Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 Just because you are picked in RD 1 doesn't always mean you are going to be great. He has to still develop guys no matter they are taken. Many of his guys were pro bowlers, not saying he is the best coach, but he is not horrible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingwilly Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 I'd be more impressed with Alexander if he could have taken and made something out of the Guychick's, Kooistra's, Otis Hudson, Reggie Stephens, Luigs, Santucci, Keift, Leyva, Coats....Certainly more busts than bangs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 Guess who will be on San Diego's injured reserve this year?Yup, they signed Mr. Glass hisself, Brandon Ghee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volcom69 Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 Guess who will be on San Diego's injured reserve this year?Yup, they signed Mr. Glass hisself, Brandon Ghee.We'll good luck to him, too bad he was always injured. So much for signing there own guys liked they said this year lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
combatbengal Posted March 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 I hope and I prey that what I'm about to say, I'm totally wrong. I don't see us winning more than 5 or 6 games next season! We just released James Harrison, lost Michael Johnson, lost Anthony Collins, and maybe Hawkins to the Browns. We have no idea how Atkins will be with his recovered leg and it doesn't appear that we are attempting to get anybody in free agency. Unless we have a phenomenal draft, we're in for a long season! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volcom69 Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 I agree this offseason sucks so far, but don't lose it now combat, let's just wait and see.I will say that I wished for another pass rusher, I thought in many games last year there was not enough pressure, also hoping for another veteran corner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingwilly Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 I'm not that pessimistic. They havn't even drafted yet. How they approach that is the next item to assess. As it is, losing MJ and AC are significant but not fatal.How players come back, like Atkins and Hall (and the LBs), is more important than MJ and AC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 Have I mentioned that I am pissed?I have?OK, move along, nothing to see here.......Yep, we save our cash to sign our own guys, ooops there goes Brandon Ghee, woopsie doodle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volcom69 Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 I see Ben Tate is now visiting the browns, sucks if signs there, I like that guy.Yea I'm with you TJ I'm not to happy how this free agency has started, let's hope it finishes better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 Don't worry volcom, hey, we had one of the worst centers in the league come in for a visit, so there's that to cheer us up, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottishbengal Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 Guess who will be on San Diego's injured reserve this year?Yup, they signed Mr. Glass hisself, Brandon Ghee.Absolutely thrilled he's gone ...as I've intimated on many occassions he was part of the dead-wood here ...always crocked. From the players point of view I hope the move results in more luck healthwise and he's able to actually play for someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottishbengal Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 Unless we have a phenomenal draft, we're in for a long season!We're in for a long season anyway .... you'd expect the first rounder to contribute immediately, you expect the 2nd and 3rd rounders to contribute in part in varying degrees, the 4th rounder and later will all be developmental projects. Even if we draft A+++++++++ only one or maybe two of those guys will make any significant headway this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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