Firing Predictions

[COB]

Ok let’s hear everyone’s predictions.  
 

We are set to have a defense that may go down in history as the worst nfl defense ever.  If not the worst, in the bottom 3 or so.  
 

I doubt even our chromosome-challenged management can just ride it out.  
 

So let’s hear the predictions.  Who gets fired.  
 

My guess:  Golden.  He’s had the least amount of time to cultivate political capital within the Bengals front office.  Zac will be looked upon as 1. The architect of a still potent offense and 2. A victim of circumstance.  Duke is there for life, in my opinion.  They’ll put out some bullshit press release about how they’re evaluating the whole draft process, player evaluation, scouting, etc, but they won’t do shit.  It’s Mike’s way, win, lose, or draw.  More important to do it Mike’s way than anything else.  Trust the Mike Brown process (to fail, as it inevitably does).

 

[AMPHAR]

If the Burrow/Zac relationship is good.  Then I don't see any turnover due to firing above assistant coaches.     

IMO, that's a huge gamble.  Never paid off for them with all those 1 year Marvin extensions.  But its easier to say Zac has 1 year left after this.  We know Burrow/Zac together can produce a QB MVP stat worthy season.   Now if Burrow says get rid of him, different story.    

So then IF they keep Zac.  Golden left ND with years remaining.  I think they'll respect that and keep him along with Zac.

So then front office?  They made all those dudes assistant GMs to make it harder for team to hire them away without promotions.  Tobin? I just don't see it  He's a NFL legacy and probably has more people singing his praises in NFL circles than most the fan base and local media realize.     Unless there's some friction between personnel and coaching staff hard to envision a change.

 

[HoosierCat]

As I've said elsewhere, I doubt they will dump Al after just one season. However, deserved or not, I do expect they will axe some defensive assistants. Given what we have seen on the field, LB coach Mike Hodges and safeties coach Jordan Kovacs seem like likely targets, though Hodges is new, too, so he might get one more shot. But Kovacs is a holdover and DL coach Jerry Montgomery might see his 11-year run come to an end as well.

Might it make a difference? Sure, but odds are they are just shuffling the proverbial deck chairs on the Titanic.

[ArmyBengal]

Will they fire people?  Sure, just none that probably wouldn't have gotten fired anyway.
Certainly none of the main coaches we know the names of.

See guys like Mike Moon and Ronnie Regula who apparently are both "Defensive Assistants".
Yep, poor bastards are going to pay the price for the abortion which is the 2025 Bengals defense.

Mind you, I've never heard of either of those guys.  If I did I don't remember but they really fucked up this year.

[COB]

Zac is in a weird spot.  The offense is great, but he’s the head coach.  If Zac is responsible for the offense, what does the OC do?  And isn’t it Zac’s job to build a defense.  Or is the narrrative that he’s a ceo coach who truly doesn’t know defense and leaves it all up to his DC?  
 

Because it fits their agenda, I think the Brown family will credit him for the offense, then, even though it is inconsistent and illogical, they’ll absolve him of any responsibility for our horrible defense.  

[Stripes]

I dunno guys. This might tip the scales.

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[gregcook69]

Does anyone know what the reason was for not even ‘considering’ bringing back Zimmer before they hired Golden?

[ArmyBengal]

I think Zimmer retired after not being brought back by Dallas after last season.

[gregcook69]

1 hour ago, ArmyBengal said:

I think Zimmer retired after not being brought back by Dallas after last season.

Negative.  He let Bengals know he was more than willing to come back after they fired Lou.

[ArmyBengal]

Never heard that.

Was never a thought I recall being discussed here either but that could be my memory working against me.

[gregcook69]

3 hours ago, ArmyBengal said:

Never heard that.

Was never a thought I recall being discussed here either but that could be my memory working against me.

https://www.google.com/gasearch?q=did mike zimmer show interest in coming back to cincinnati as be dc before al golden was chosen&source=sh/x/gs/m2/5

[HoosierCat]

Mike: "We're gonna run it back again!"

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Bengals president Mike Brown began the offseason Monday morning with a statement of support for head coach Zac Taylor and director of player personnel Duke Tobin.

"Our focus is on building a team that can consistently compete at the highest level, with the goal of winning championships," Brown said in a statement released hours after the Bengals finished the season. "After thoughtful consideration, I am confident that Duke Tobin and Zac Taylor are the right leaders to guide us forward.

"They have proven they can build and lead teams that compete for championships. We trust their plans and expect to return to our desired level of success."

F**ked, we are.

[COB]

Mike: “Three years of missing the playoffs.  We’re confident we’re doing things right, so no changes.  We’ll do all the same things but we’ll get different results.”

[COB]

Fans: “Mike’s not running things anymore.”

Mike: “LOL, my PTSD from hiring Dave Shula means this Kohl’s store assistant manager I installed as head coach is never leaving.”

[Tank4225]

The Bengals owner is a complete disgrace to Cincy and its fan base. You're bringing back a coach in Taylor that can't win a game without Burrow. The drafting and need to protect Burrow hasn't been a priority. I wouldn't put it past Burrow to pull a Andrew Luck at this rate of incompetence by the ownership!

[volcom69]

Blah blah blah!!! What’s the point, let me guess they are going to hit free agency hard this year, maybe get a top tier guy, and a bunch 2 or 3 tier guys to come along. Great that’s awesome except, half the free agents they bring In forget how to play football when they get here. They are so frustrating to watch, and so frustrating to root for anymore. 

[volcom69]

This team is stuck back in 2021!!! They will continue to use there Super Bowl run in everything they use lol 

[COB]

1 hour ago, volcom69 said:

This team is stuck back in 2021!!! They will continue to use there Super Bowl run in everything they use lol 

Mike’s statement that announced no changes didn’t even wait until the second sentence to reference the Super Bowl.  In the first sentence he said he wants to keep;“leadership in place that took us to a Super Bowl and two AFC Championship games.”

Mike uses that little run we had as a shield.  Not as something to build on, not as something to grow.  He leverages it to continue his blatant profit taking at the expense of improvement.  We truly are the NFL version of the Washington Generals.  Professional opponents.  

[HoosierCat]

Apparently the bengals are rolling Tobin out for a press conference Friday. Leaked scene of his press conference prep work here:

 

[Prophecy]

Executives and Head Coach remain intact, but they have fired 6 Peanut vendors for poor sales. That free agency money has to come from somewhere. The irony is, Peanuts is also what the Bengals pay in terms of Guaranteed money on contracts.

[Stripes]

I just received notice from B24. It looks like I will be retained as a member of Bengalszone for another year of mediocre one-liners. We’re staying the course.

[HoosierCat]

Taylor: no staff changes.

[Prophecy]

So...Zac Taylor's record with the Bengals is 52-63-1 and he keeps his job. Kevin Stefanski's record was not much worse at 45-58 with a much less talented team, gets fired by the Browns.

Never thought I'd say this but, Bengals could learn from the Browns.

[volcom69]

Yup just saw no coaching changes at all. Wow you think we just won 10 games or something, you think we just got done making the playoffs last year. I saw Rheem Morris was fired they should be asking that guy to help out the defense or coach the defense. 
 

They really are staying status quo, not really sure what message this gives to the fans, but as a fan of this team it’s making it really hard to even care anymore 

[gregcook69]

3 hours ago, Prophecy said:

So...Zac Taylor's record with the Bengals is 52-63-1 and he keeps his job. Kevin Stefanski's record was not much worse at 45-58 with a much less talented team, gets fired by the Browns.

Never thought I'd say this but, Bengals could learn from the Browns.

A great point, with just one correction IMHO, overall a worse team except for their defense!  Would have loved to have had the Browns defense last year!!

None of that matters because MB is going to coast along until his time is up and it’s a crap shoot as far as IF things will change AFTER that happens?!?

I say not much!  Revenue had been very good the Brown family!!