COB Posted December 14, 2017 Report Share Posted December 14, 2017 Mike's 82. I doubt he'll have the energy, the mental acuity, or even the push within the organization to exert much influence on personnel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMPHAR Posted December 14, 2017 Report Share Posted December 14, 2017 I wouldn't mind a selection of Jackson from Da Ville. I'd be shocked but that guy is a game changer for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cincyhokie Posted December 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2017 This guy thinks they'll draft Baker Mayfield. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2018-nfl-mock-draft-bengals-select-qb-baker-mayfield-to-replace-andy-dalton/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COB Posted December 14, 2017 Report Share Posted December 14, 2017 Baker fucking Mayfield? He's the anti-Dalton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted December 14, 2017 Report Share Posted December 14, 2017 GIMME A LINEMAN FIVE LINEMEN 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cincyhokie Posted December 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2017 The Bengals are going to draft in the top 10 and will get a crack at one of the top 4 QB's. You take a QB here this year with the talent level being what it is and Dalton being what he is. Shore up the O-line in the draft and FA. Fire Alexander. Problem solved. Josh Rosen Lamar Jackson Sam Darnold Josh Allen Baker Mayfield Mason Rudolph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted December 15, 2017 Report Share Posted December 15, 2017 11 hours ago, cincyhokie said: The Bengals are going to draft in the top 10 and will get a crack at one of the top 4 QB's. You take a QB here this year with the talent level being what it is and Dalton being what he is. Shore up the O-line in the draft and FA. Fire Alexander. Problem solved. IMHO if Marvin is still here, the problem isn't solved. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted December 15, 2017 Report Share Posted December 15, 2017 QBs well below the caliber of Dalton have won Superbowls. Control the line of scrimmage, win games. That is all 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted December 15, 2017 Report Share Posted December 15, 2017 Baker (douchebag) Mayfield = Johnny (fuckface) Manziel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cincyhokie Posted December 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2017 11 hours ago, BengalszoneBilly said: IMHO if Marvin is still here, the problem isn't solved. Betting that Marvin won't be here. Crossing all of my appendages. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cincyhokie Posted December 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2017 11 hours ago, TJJackson said: QBs well below the caliber of Dalton have won Superbowls. Control the line of scrimmage, win games. That is all I like Dalton as a guy. But I'd lay money on the line and say that those QB's who won those SB's were better leaders than the Red Rifle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cincyhokie Posted December 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2017 Look, this team is a steaming pile of shit. I just want to see this be an interesting steaming pile of shit. A step up is all I'm asking. A new QB is a risk worth taking, IMHO, in this QB driven league. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cincyhokie Posted December 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 On 12/15/2017 at 9:22 AM, TJJackson said: QBs well below the caliber of Dalton have won Superbowls. Control the line of scrimmage, win games. That is all True, but also consider this. Of those "game manager" type QB's that have won the Superbowl...how many of them went on to having continued success? Trent Difler? Jeff Hostetler? Doug Williams? That dude that played for Tampa Bay? I can't think of one that wasn't a part of a "lightening in a bottle" type season. This league is ruled by elite QBs. And when you have the anomaly of a fringe QB that wins the SB, the rest of their time with the team is extremely varied due to a ton of circumstances. The best chance to be a perennial winner and win the SB is when a team has a top caliber QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottishbengal Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 6 hours ago, cincyhokie said: True, but also consider this. Of those "game manager" type QB's that have won the Superbowl...how many of them went on to having continued success? Trent Difler? Jeff Hostetler? Doug Williams? That dude that played for Tampa Bay? Brad Johnson?? I can't think of one that wasn't a part of a "lightening in a bottle" type season. This league is ruled by elite QBs. And when you have the anomaly of a fringe QB that wins the SB, the rest of their time with the team is extremely varied due to a ton of circumstances. The best chance to be a perennial winner and win the SB is when a team has a top caliber QB. Even a top caliber QB would struggle behind this O-line, an upgrade needs to be made across the board and I just can't see the Bengals sweeping that much clean with any type of broom. Take an elite QB = struggle behind the Oline Improve the Oline = you still have Dalton Improve the Oline AND take an elite QB = stuff of dreams, ain't gonna happen in reality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMPHAR Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 Drafting a QB doesn't mean sweeping Dalton out immediately. Based on how they handle first and second rounders, the Status of Dalton isn't even a factor. Depending the outcome of the draft evaluation process it would be hard to pass a QB given the importance and the opportunity to sit them and develop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottishbengal Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, AMPHAR said: it would be hard to pass a QB given the importance and the opportunity to sit them and develop. Is that not the situation that McCarron is currently in ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMPHAR Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Scottishbengal said: Is that not the situation that McCarron is currently in ?? Yes. Hopefully AJ turns into some higher draft picks. A first round QB will have a 5 year rookie deal. Andy has 3 left Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cincyhokie Posted December 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 4 hours ago, Scottishbengal said: Even a top caliber QB would struggle behind this O-line, an upgrade needs to be made across the board and I just can't see the Bengals sweeping that much clean with any type of broom. Take an elite QB = struggle behind the Oline Improve the Oline = you still have Dalton Improve the Oline AND take an elite QB = stuff of dreams, ain't gonna happen in reality There are other ways to improve the O-line aside from taking a tackle in the first round. Hell, this O-line is so bad that it won't take much to make it much better. Add some help in FA, which they have done in the past, draft well for the O-line in the upper rounds. You can't pass on a QB in the top 10 if it's a fit. Draft a QB and let Dalton finish out a couple of more years behind an improved O-line. They're doing this in KC right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cincyhokie Posted December 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 3 hours ago, Scottishbengal said: Is that not the situation that McCarron is currently in ?? McCarron was drafted to be the backup. You draft a QB in the top 10 and he's going to be a future starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 Great o-lines are not built in one single draft and are not products of all first round picks. Dallas has spent first round picks on their line, but that took some time. They got lucky in grabbing Dak and having him turn into what he has. How many times does an organization have an opportunity to draft a top tier QB without giving up picks to get them ?? Taking a QB would not surprise me with a new coach coming in and I agree that it doesn't mean Dalton is gone in 2018. Over the 2018 and 2019 drafts, they could draft at least 2 first or second round o-linemen. Outside of that, the LB spot continues to be one of the most glaring and overlooked needs of this team. That being said, if there are no other coaching changes and Mike Brown continues being Mike Brown, it won't matter. I'm still in "Fuck the Bengals" mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMPHAR Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 2 hours ago, cincyhokie said: There are other ways to improve the O-line aside from taking a tackle in the first round. Hell, this O-line is so bad that it won't take much to make it much better. Add some help in FA, which they have done in the past, draft well for the O-line in the upper rounds. You can't pass on a QB in the top 10 if it's a fit. Draft a QB and let Dalton finish out a couple of more years behind an improved O-line. They're doing this in KC right now. QB is important. Franchise tackle is right there. i could definitely entertain both positions in the top 10. Just a matter of a prospect being there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COB Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 Most of the assistants are gone as well, per Rappaport at NFL network. I wonder if there are any stray Shulas sitting around unused anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShulaSteakhouse Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 4 hours ago, COB said: Most of the assistants are gone as well, per Rappaport at NFL network. I wonder if there are any stray Shulas sitting around unused anywhere. Alexander will demand to be kept and keep his "Assistant Head Coach" title, since no one else will hire him. I wonder how much that bullshit rubs other coaches the wrong way, especially when he blows draft pick after draft pick and the offense is literally the worst in the entire league, and the running game hasn't been good since Dillon was here. IF they want to keep that B.S. up, they'll have to hire another desperate loser HC candidate who would actually take the job here. I am only really interested right now, to see if the coaching exodus and resulting player unhappiness results in Mike Brown finally giving-up his stupid, silly, tired charade of meddling in personnel decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMPHAR Posted December 18, 2017 Report Share Posted December 18, 2017 6 hours ago, COB said: Most of the assistants are gone as well, per Rappaport at NFL network. I wonder if there are any stray Shulas sitting around unused anywhere. Not kidding but I would like a Mike Shula hire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wraith Posted December 19, 2017 Report Share Posted December 19, 2017 If they draft a QB like the kid out of Wyoming and don't fix the online, I will throw something through my TV. Fix the *** damn oline. Nelson out of Notre Dame should be our pick unless he is not available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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