HoosierCat Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 11 hours ago, cincyhokie said: Yep. This is when the "Mike doesn't want to win!" crowd comes out. But Mike Brown really does want to win. I really believe that. It's just that he really wants to win in his way. Really bad. There's a book I've read recently called Ego Is The Enemy by Ryan Holiday. Great book. Both the Patriots organization and Seahawks organization read that book the year before they won the Superbowl. True story. If you don't think that mindset is the biggest factor for success in any business, regardless of what it is, you'd be...Mike Brown. Thanks for the tip, I'll have to pick that one up. Re mindset, I agree. I could tell you stories... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volcom69 Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 10 hours ago, COB said: Not many organizations let a decent guy go for a lateral move. Our defense played pretty well, several teams would probably like him as their DC. I don't mind him as the DC I'm saying not sure how I would feel as him as a head coach though. I was saying chances are they won't let him walk because maybe he is the head coach in waiting, kind of like what they wanted Hue to be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COB Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 I'm with you on Guenther. He's turned out to be pretty good. I have no idea what kind of HC he would be. As far as a succession plan, I'd take Guenther any day over Alexander or Zampese, both of whom don't deserve consideration for our HC job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMPHAR Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 I don't read into it. I like Paul as DC and after massive assistant losses I can see why they block it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cincyhokie Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 2 hours ago, HoosierCat said: Thanks for the tip, I'll have to pick that one up. Re mindset, I agree. I could tell you stories... Yeah, and when I say "you" I don't mean you. But people in general. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volcom69 Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 47 minutes ago, AMPHAR said: I don't read into it. I like Paul as DC and after massive assistant losses I can see why they block it. Just me thinking that's all lol. I can see why they would block them as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 So the Bengals need to take a look at what the Jaguars just did. Yes, the Jaguars. They bring back Coughlin, the 1st coach of the Jags who many thought was interviewing for the head coaching spot, and made him an exec. Coughlin was named the Executive Vice President of Football Operations and has final say over the roster. While I'm not sure of all the family member titles in the Bengals front office, but if someone holds that title, then call it something else. Then promptly move Marvin into it. I can't begin to say how much I would be in favor of seeing that move. Coupled with bringing in Vance Joseph as the head coach, I would be MUCH more excited about the direction of this team. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volcom69 Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 Yup same here, but Joseph will be gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COB Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 1 hour ago, ArmyBengal said: So the Bengals need to take a look at what the Jaguars just did. Yes, the Jaguars. They bring back Coughlin, the 1st coach of the Jags who many thought was interviewing for the head coaching spot, and made him an exec. Coughlin was named the Executive Vice President of Football Operations and has final say over the roster. While I'm not sure of all the family member titles in the Bengals front office, but if someone holds that title, then call it something else. Then promptly move Marvin into it. I can't begin to say how much I would be in favor of seeing that move. Coupled with bringing in Vance Joseph as the head coach, I would be MUCH more excited about the direction of this team. Agreed that would be the move. Tell you what, let's just wait one more year, see what we have in Marvin as a head coach, then think about something like the Jags/Coughlin thing. One more year of status quo also allows us to assess exactly what we have in Alexander as a line coach. Don't want to be too hasty on that one. Let's give him some time and see what he can do. Once we give Marvin and Alexander a fair shot to demonstrate their abilities, then we can talk about Marvin as a personnel guru. This fan base just wants instant gratification, they don't understand the intricacies of running an NFL franchise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMPHAR Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 Title aren't important, functions are! Marvin has his voice and his influence probably to the level Tom would have with his title already. Duke Tobin has a considerable amount of influence as well. With the Bengals the dynamic wouldn't change with a title. If the Owners want to overrule you, you get overruled. This issue we want to retain Marvin's positive influence on the talent because we've seen the players they have can run, jump, tackle, block, pass, catch to a level that's gotten them 6 playoff seasons out of 8 and NOTHING else. That NOTHING has most fans wanting Marvin out of the game plan room and off the sidelines and give someone else a chance to see if they can crack the glass ceiling of winning for this franchise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 In all honesty, I have no issue what the heck they do with Marvin. I just don't want him as the head coach. I would have no issue with him in the front office, but I would have no issue with him on the street either. Call him what you will; executive, guru, head whatever, or unemployed. Just get off the sideline. I just figure that with how much pull he obviously has with the family, that would be the obvious choice. How the family would handle him in that capacity would be of little interest to me quite frankly. I'd be far more interested in the next dude roaming the sidelines and the potential impact it would have on the team. Anyone thinking this team is going to be "exciting" in 2017 must have completely ignored 2016. The very definition of boring, bland, and uninspired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 Marvin Lewis Signs 10-Year Extension Decade-long fully guaranteed $100 million deal ensures Lewis will coach the Bengals through 2026. CINCINNATI -- Cincinnati Bengals head coach Marvin "Giggles" Lewis has signed a fully guaranteed 10-year extension that will keep him on the Bengals' sideline well into the next decade. "Buwahahahaha!" said Lewis."Buwahahahaha! BUWAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!" In a release, Bengals President and Owner Mike Brown called Lewis "the best coach I've ever worked with," and "a real credit to the community." "Making sure that Coach Lewis and his foundation remain here and active in Cincinnati was a key reason for doing this new deal," he added. The extension comes at a time when many fans have been calling for the team to cut ties with Lewis. Bengals Executive Vice President Katie Blackburn dismissed those calls."Fans have no idea how hard it is to run a football team," she said. "Buwahahahaha!" Lewis repeated."Buwahahahaha! BUWAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!" Lewis then donned a black cape and Darth Vader helmet and began whacking reporters with a wooden mop handle until they fled the press conference. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 Surely part of the deal was to allow for future Marvin Lewis family members to gain a foothold in the NFL coaching realm right ?? I mean we wouldn't want to forget Marvin's 9 year old grandson that might want to coach in the NFL someday, right ?? Gotta make sure we secure that opportunity for him !!! (no I don't know about his family) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMPHAR Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 1 hour ago, HoosierCat said: Marvin Lewis Signs 10-Year Extension Decade-long fully guaranteed $100 million deal ensures Lewis will coach the Bengals through 2026. CINCINNATI -- Cincinnati Bengals head coach Marvin "Giggles" Lewis has signed a fully guaranteed 10-year extension that will keep him on the Bengals' sideline well into the next decade. "Buwahahahaha!" said Lewis."Buwahahahaha! BUWAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!" In a release, Bengals President and Owner Mike Brown called Lewis "the best coach I've ever worked with," and "a real credit to the community." "Making sure that Coach Lewis and his foundation remain here and active in Cincinnati was a key reason for doing this new deal," he added. The extension comes at a time when many fans have been calling for the team to cut ties with Lewis. Bengals Executive Vice President Katie Blackburn dismissed those calls."Fans have no idea how hard it is to run a football team," she said. "Buwahahahaha!" Lewis repeated."Buwahahahaha! BUWAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!" Lewis then donned a black cape and Darth Vader helmet and began whacking reporters with a wooden mop handle until they fled the press conference. I'm going to lite myself on fire. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMPHAR Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 1 hour ago, ArmyBengal said: Surely part of the deal was to allow for future Marvin Lewis family members to gain a foothold in the NFL coaching realm right ?? I mean we wouldn't want to forget Marvin's 9 year old grandson that might want to coach in the NFL someday, right ?? Gotta make sure we secure that opportunity for him !!! (no I don't know about his family) There is some merit to that. Marvin's son holds a coaching admin position with the Bengals, I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 Yep, that's where I was going with it, but a little deeper. Ooooh, lighting yourself on fire. Nice. I always use the "I would find more pleasure in driving nails into the back of my hand". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 Oh, so that explains it.. Quote Heading into his 15th season with Bengals, Marvin Lewis is ready for a playoff win http://www.wcpo.com/news/insider/marvin-lewis-heading-into-his-15th-season-with-bengals-lewis-is-ready-for-a-playoff-win See guys? In the first 14 seasons he just wasn't ready for it yet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 I'm glad he's finally ready after 14 years. You know what Marvin ?? The last Bengals playoff win was January of 1991. Want to do the math and determine how long Bengals fans have been ready ?? F*cking amateur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMPHAR Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 1 hour ago, HoosierCat said: Oh, so that explains it.. http://www.wcpo.com/news/insider/marvin-lewis-heading-into-his-15th-season-with-bengals-lewis-is-ready-for-a-playoff-win See guys? In the first 14 seasons he just wasn't ready for it yet... THIS IS AWESOME! We are all on the same page, finally! He's ready for a playoff win. We are ready for a playoff win. It's perfect. We are all ready for a playoff win! That's the new t-shirt. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COB Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 The media in Cincy need to start asking hard questions. I know it's just football, but at this point this bullshit has gotten ridiculous. How about: "You say you are ready for a playoff win next season. You probably were ready during the previous seasons as well. What will you be doing differently in 2017 to bring about a different result?" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 It's one thing to ask the easy question, it's another to accept the stupid answer as if was some amazing family secret never shared previously. I would like to see someone just respond with, "Seriously, is that your answer ??". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 2 hours ago, COB said: The media in Cincy need to stinasking hard questions. I know it's just football, but at this point this bullshit has gotten ridiculous. How about: "You say you are ready for a playoff win next season. You probably were ready during the previous seasons as well. What will you be doing differently in 2017 to bring about a different result?" Exactly. Personally I have no hope in the draft, no hope in free agency if this same guy and coaching staff is running the show again next year. They'll just find a way to f**k it up. Again. It's a s**t show that finds a way to self replicate no matter who comes and goes. Its becoming difficult to follow, and impossible to be optimistic about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 6 hours ago, AMPHAR said: THIS IS AWESOME! We are all on the same page, finally! He's ready for a playoff win. We are ready for a playoff win. It's perfect. We are all ready for a playoff win! That's the new t-shirt. Absolutely. I'll get the silkscreen shop on it asap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 Marvin will find a way to get a playoff tie. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cincyhokie Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 One of three things HAS to happen, IMO, if this team has any semblance of a chance for next year. It starts on the O Line. I don't care who they draft in April or retain in FA, if they don't significantly get more production out of the offensive line, then nothing matters. 1. Alexander has to go. Unlikely. 2. Bodine has to be replaced as the starting center. 3. RT has to be upgraded and the guard play has to be upgraded. RT and guard in the draft or FA. If this line comes back looking the same, forget 2017. And I will be more than comfortable picking them to do jack shit in the upcoming season as early as post draft if this team hasn't gotten their head out of their ass on the offensive line front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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