Bengals v Ravens (merged)

[Sea Ray]

My sky will be falling with a loss. With our schedule, we can't fall 2 back.

I'm thinking all we need to do is get out of the gate 2-2.

[COB]

There's not a Bengals fan on this board who didn't come away from watching Sunday's debacle with a feeling of dread.

Try to spin it this way and that, but when when I see a football team getting beat up front like that, optimism for the future isn't what comes to mind.

[Whur CHad At?]

Greeny is the dumbest radio personality on ESPN. The guy knows nothing about sports. Listen to Colin Cowherd if you want to be enlightend

[Stripes]

Greeny is the dumbest radio personality on ESPN. The guy knows nothing about sports. Listen to Colin Cowherd if you want to be enlightend

[HairOnFire]

Then again, i could be totally wrong.

That seems unlikely due to your habit of not really saying anything definitively.

I mean, I actually predicted that the bengals defense would have no chance of stopping the Patriots' offense last week...Oh wait a minute...i was right about that...

Good for you. Then again, all I remember is your thread about how bad the Bengals punter is.

[Wraith]

You guys are serious homers.

Yes, that is the point of a Bengals FAN forum. I am complete non-objective when it comes to the Bengals and I'd like to keep it that way.

[HoosierCat]

I saw the Ravens team I expected to see last night. With Rice to carry the rock and a bagful of possession guys, Baltimore has all the ingredients for a dink & dunk style offense. The problem is that means you need to execute 12-15 plays a drive to score, offering plenty of opportunities for bad things to happen.

I wasn't overly impressed by the Ravens' offensive line but I also have little doubt that they'll look a lot better versus us.

Flacco was all over the board and it didn't seem related much to whether he was under pressure (if anything he seemed to do better when the heat was on but that's just an impression). It also seemed like the more open one of his receivers was, the worse his throw was.

TJ looked like TJ to me. Heap will probably give the D fits, too.

Defensively it's hard for me to say. The Jets never really tested Balti's suspect secondary. LT had a couple good runs late, over the right side IIRC. That was our strong running side last season, so maybe there's some hop there if Bob "ha ha watch me fool those Pats by running over the left side!" Bratkowski has learned his lesson.

[JoePong]

You guys are serious homers.

Yes, that is the point of a Bengals FAN forum. I am complete non-objective when it comes to the Bengals and I'd like to keep it that way.

It's ok to be a homer. However, stupidity should not be a prerequisite to being a bengal fan. And that seems to be the case around here.

Something to consider...

The bengals' last two games hve been against the jets and patriots. They were dominated in both.

The ravens' last two wins have come against, guess who... the jets and patriots...each game on the road, no less.

All I heard leading up to this game was how the patriots weren't the same team and how the bengals should be favored. Pats had a weak defense, etc...

Now some guy is trying to claim that the patriots are a much better team than the ravens right now, so we should win on sunday. Just make up your mind

[bwillycuse]

You guys are serious homers.

Yes, that is the point of a Bengals FAN forum. I am complete non-objective when it comes to the Bengals and I'd like to keep it that way.

It's ok to be a homer. However, stupidity should not be a prerequisite to being a bengal fan. And that seems to be the case around here.

Something to consider...

The bengals' last two games hve been against the jets and patriots. They were dominated in both.

The ravens' last two wins have come against, guess who... the jets and patriots...each game on the road, no less.

All I heard leading up to this game was how the patriots weren't the same team and how the bengals should be favored. Pats had a weak defense, etc...

Now some guy is trying to claim that the patriots are a much better team than the ravens right now, so we should win on sunday. Just make up your mind

Whats your point?

Hows this for your logic? We beat the Ravens the last two times we played them.

From the games I saw, the Pats are better than the Ravens(Though the Pats D is not as good) - But that is a one week snapshot.

Again the Ravens had several turnovers yesterday, received very favorable calls that lead directly to more points, first downs on 3rd and long. Totaled 280 yards for the game on 70 plays.

Defense looked fast though, but we usually are able to handle that.

So i assume you pick a loss? Surprising

I think it obvious - We are all very impressed with your intelligence and are just jealous that we just cant meet your football talk expectations.

[HairOnFire]

Now some guy is trying to claim that the patriots are a much better team than the ravens right now, so we should win on sunday. Just make up your mind

You always seem to be quoting or arguing with or proclaiming victory over "some guy".

What's up with that?

As for the whole just make up your mind thing?. You first. Seriously, call the outcome of Ravens/Bengals matchup right now using either your vague Bengals aren't worth a crap rant or the companion one where you dismiss their ability to routinely kick the butts of any team they're overly familiar with.

[MOBengal]

I, for one, am going into this game as if it is week 1. I don't think the Bengals are as bad as they looked on Sunday and I don't think Flacco and the Ravens are as bad as they looked on Monday (yeah, they won, but they didn't look good). I think this game will be a good indication of how the season will go for the Bengals. These are two teams that are very familiar with each other and know what to expect. The ass kicking from Sunday will hopefully wake the coaches and the players up to what they need to do to get back to where we were last season. I'm expecting to see a lot of running the ball with some shots down the field. On defense, I'm expecting them to try something radically different from the Pats game--tackling the guy that has the ball.

I'm still optimistic about this season, but if we don't come away with a win on Sunday, that could change fast.

[JoePong]

You guys are serious homers.

Yes, that is the point of a Bengals FAN forum. I am complete non-objective when it comes to the Bengals and I'd like to keep it that way.

It's ok to be a homer. However, stupidity should not be a prerequisite to being a bengal fan. And that seems to be the case around here.

Something to consider...

The bengals' last two games hve been against the jets and patriots. They were dominated in both.

The ravens' last two wins have come against, guess who... the jets and patriots...each game on the road, no less.

All I heard leading up to this game was how the patriots weren't the same team and how the bengals should be favored. Pats had a weak defense, etc...

Now some guy is trying to claim that the patriots are a much better team than the ravens right now, so we should win on sunday. Just make up your mind

Whats your point?

Hows this for your logic? We beat the Ravens the last two times we played them.

From the games I saw, the Pats are better than the Ravens(Though the Pats D is not as good) - But that is a one week snapshot.

Again the Ravens had several turnovers yesterday, received very favorable calls that lead directly to more points, first downs on 3rd and long. Totaled 280 yards for the game on 70 plays.

Defense looked fast though, but we usually are able to handle that.

So i assume you pick a loss? Surprising

I think it obvious - We are all very impressed with your intelligence and are just jealous that we just cant meet your football talk expectations.

Favorable calls? Seriously? They got penalty calls because the jets CBs couldn't cover baltimore's WRs without interferring. There is nothing "favorable" about that.

[TJJackson]

However, stupidity should not be a prerequisite to being a bengal fan.

and it isn't.....but if it was, you'd be among the top qualifiers

[bwillycuse]

You guys are serious homers.

Yes, that is the point of a Bengals FAN forum. I am complete non-objective when it comes to the Bengals and I'd like to keep it that way.

It's ok to be a homer. However, stupidity should not be a prerequisite to being a bengal fan. And that seems to be the case around here.

Something to consider...

The bengals' last two games hve been against the jets and patriots. They were dominated in both.

The ravens' last two wins have come against, guess who... the jets and patriots...each game on the road, no less.

All I heard leading up to this game was how the patriots weren't the same team and how the bengals should be favored. Pats had a weak defense, etc...

Now some guy is trying to claim that the patriots are a much better team than the ravens right now, so we should win on sunday. Just make up your mind

Whats your point?

Hows this for your logic? We beat the Ravens the last two times we played them.

From the games I saw, the Pats are better than the Ravens(Though the Pats D is not as good) - But that is a one week snapshot.

Again the Ravens had several turnovers yesterday, received very favorable calls that lead directly to more points, first downs on 3rd and long. Totaled 280 yards for the game on 70 plays.

Defense looked fast though, but we usually are able to handle that.

So i assume you pick a loss? Surprising

I think it obvious - We are all very impressed with your intelligence and are just jealous that we just cant meet your football talk expectations.

Favorable calls? Seriously? They got penalty calls because the jets CBs couldn't cover baltimore's WRs without interferring. There is nothing "favorable" about that.

Running into kicker was favorable..no question.

TJ PI wasn't catchable. Actually TJ did just as much grabbing and pulling as the DB..on a couple plays he initiated the contact.

The hold when Ravens were backed up to their one on 3rd down wasn't a penalty or extremely ticky tack.

But we aren't hearing any Ravens fans say the refs are picking on them this week though.

Ravens were very fortunate last night. Be it by dumb Jets penalties and questionable calls.

[volcom69]

I think the main thing in this game is the defense. If the defense does not improve, if they give Flacco all day like they did Brady he will pick the Bengals apart. Right now im not sure what to think, do we really have the defense front to create the pressure this team needs? I dont get it there has not been any changes in the defense, but they still sucked. This game will come down to if the Bengals defense gets physical, and plays much better then last week.

On offense they play physical as well, win at the point of attack and get some push! I think the Ravens have a very good team, now i dont think there the best in the league, but they looked good. Boldin is going to be tough to cover, and i thought TJ looked pretty good.

Well all i can hope is somehow Zimmer can fix the defense. I dont feel real confident in him right now after his comments saying he didnt know what to do. He had months to prepare for the Pats and the defense looked like that. Back to the basics is where the defense is going.

[JoePong]

You guys are serious homers.

Yes, that is the point of a Bengals FAN forum. I am complete non-objective when it comes to the Bengals and I'd like to keep it that way.

It's ok to be a homer. However, stupidity should not be a prerequisite to being a bengal fan. And that seems to be the case around here.

Something to consider...

The bengals' last two games hve been against the jets and patriots. They were dominated in both.

The ravens' last two wins have come against, guess who... the jets and patriots...each game on the road, no less.

All I heard leading up to this game was how the patriots weren't the same team and how the bengals should be favored. Pats had a weak defense, etc...

Now some guy is trying to claim that the patriots are a much better team than the ravens right now, so we should win on sunday. Just make up your mind

Whats your point?

Hows this for your logic? We beat the Ravens the last two times we played them.

From the games I saw, the Pats are better than the Ravens(Though the Pats D is not as good) - But that is a one week snapshot.

Again the Ravens had several turnovers yesterday, received very favorable calls that lead directly to more points, first downs on 3rd and long. Totaled 280 yards for the game on 70 plays.

Defense looked fast though, but we usually are able to handle that.

So i assume you pick a loss? Surprising

I think it obvious - We are all very impressed with your intelligence and are just jealous that we just cant meet your football talk expectations.

Favorable calls? Seriously? They got penalty calls because the jets CBs couldn't cover baltimore's WRs without interferring. There is nothing "favorable" about that.

Running into kicker was favorable..no question.

TJ PI wasn't catchable. Actually TJ did just as much grabbing and pulling as the DB..on a couple plays he initiated the contact.

The hold when Ravens were backed up to their one on 3rd down wasn't a penalty or extremely ticky tack.

But we aren't hearing any Ravens fans say the refs are picking on them this week though.

Ravens were very fortunate last night. Be it by dumb Jets penalties and questionable calls.

You are in serious denial man. All those penalties were clear cut.

[cHaD711Johnson]

Greeny is the dumbest radio personality on ESPN. The guy knows nothing about sports. Listen to Colin Cowherd if you want to be enlightend

hahahahaha. Stop it. The same Cowherd who said Joey Votto wasn't an all-star?

And please someone IP ban Joe Pong. His act is getting very tired.

[Arizona]

1. Baltimore is not a big market east coast team. The reason we all walk around with an inferiority complex in Baltimore is b/c everyone thinks we're a truck stop between DC and Philly. Don't care to look it up, but I bet Baltimore is similar in size to Cincinatti, with other large cities only about an hour away in a couple of directions.

2. One game is not enough to be certain of anything. Is the Pats offense that good or is your D suspect? I think the former. Is the Jets Defense that good or is the Ravens O suspect? Again, I think the former. I worry about your offense as I think the Pats D is just not that good. I believe in the Ravens run D, but the passing D was barely tested on Monday night.

It's funny we are switching opponents this week. We will learn a lot about both of our teams.

Of course I expect a Ravens win, probably by 4 or 7.

[jjakq27]

Greeny is the dumbest radio personality on ESPN. The guy knows nothing about sports. Listen to Colin Cowherd if you want to be enlightend

hahahahaha. Stop it. The same Cowherd who said Joey Votto wasn't an all-star?

He also said the Reds were a fraud.

[Wraith]

You know it is always interesting to me when someone calls someone else Stupid on a message board.

People who do things like this come off sounding completely insecure about their own faculties, not saying Joe is actually an insecure little troll hiding in his mother's basement but it's what it sounds like when he is calling someone stupid that he has never met from behind a computer monitor where his anonymity is ensured.

[Whur CHad At?]

Greeny is the dumbest radio personality on ESPN. The guy knows nothing about sports. Listen to Colin Cowherd if you want to be enlightend

hahahahaha. Stop it. The same Cowherd who said Joey Votto wasn't an all-star?

He also said the Reds were a fraud.

Well, he is right. A great regular season team, but won't win a game in the playoffs.

Look at their record agaisnt GOOD teams. I would say he was right.

[Stripes]

Well, he is right. A great regular season team, but won't win a game in the playoffs.

Look at their record agaisnt GOOD teams. I would say he was right.

You whine about Palmer.

You defend Chad.

You claim Colin Cowherd is capable of "enlightening" his listeners.

Your sig is massive.

You don't make sense.

[Whur CHad At?]

Well, he is right. A great regular season team, but won't win a game in the playoffs.

Look at their record agaisnt GOOD teams. I would say he was right.

You whine about Palmer.

You defend Chad.

You claim Colin Cowherd is capable of "enlightening" his listeners.

Your sig is massive.

You don't make sense.

Carson Palmer is a average QB. He is very similar to Matt Cassell. Watch him and then watch other QB's and you'll see the seperation in skill. He's declining, but you and the other apologist's refuse to put pressure on him. Everything he does you have to find an excuse for and I am TIRED of it.

Chad is one of if not, the best route runner in football. He is still elite. He works really hard, and plays hard. Chad is one of the BIG reasons we are we we are today.

Colin Cowherd is right on almost everything. Listen to his predictions, he is really never wrong. I hope he is about the Reds, but lets face it, he ISN'T.

KATIE BLACKBURN IS SEXY

I make plenty of sense. It's apologists like you who refuse to put pressure on this team and will accept the status quo. You will continue to accept mediocrity and I REFUSE TO.

[HairOnFire]

KATIE BLACKBURN IS SEXY

+1

[membengal]

Well, he is right. A great regular season team, but won't win a game in the playoffs.

Look at their record agaisnt GOOD teams. I would say he was right.

You whine about Palmer.

You defend Chad.

You claim Colin Cowherd is capable of "enlightening" his listeners.

Your sig is massive.

You don't make sense.

Carson Palmer is a average QB. He is very similar to Matt Cassell. Watch him and then watch other QB's and you'll see the seperation in skill. He's declining, but you and the other apologist's refuse to put pressure on him. Everything he does you have to find an excuse for and I am TIRED of it.

Chad is one of if not, the best route runner in football. He is still elite. He works really hard, and plays hard. Chad is one of the BIG reasons we are we we are today.

Colin Cowherd is right on almost everything. Listen to his predictions, he is really never wrong. I hope he is about the Reds, but lets face it, he ISN'T.

KATIE BLACKBURN IS SEXY

I make plenty of sense. It's apologists like you who refuse to put pressure on this team and will accept the status quo. You will continue to accept mediocrity and I REFUSE TO.

Well thank the high effin' heavens for YOU then. I had been wondering just what the f**k was wrong with the Bengals, and now I know. It is that message board denizens are not putting sufficient pressure on the Bengals to be good with our typing and what not. But not YOU, message board warrior. YOU REFUSE TO ACCEPT MEDIOCRITY, and if only all other would join you in your message board crusade, well, then we would be getting somewhere.

So glad to have that straight.

Jeebus.

You suck diseased donkey taint.