SmellKiperjr Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 On Sunday 19th October from 11 am until noon a plane will fly around PBS towing a banner proclaiming "STEP DOWN MIKE BROWN" Please help us by joining in and chanting "STEP DOWN......MIKE BROWN" during the game.Please pass this message of hope onto as many Bengal's fans as you can, and remember, great oaks from tiny acorns grow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregstephens Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 Nice thought--but no spam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregstephens Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 I've reopened the topic, and the reference to the other website should be gone momentarily. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmellKiperjr Posted October 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 I've reopened the topic, and the reference to the other website should be gone momentarily. Thanks.Thanks Greg, sorry about the reference. There's not much we as fans can agree on, but getting rid of Mike Brown is one of them. We're hoping to get a "Step Down Mike Brown" chant going during the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DelhiBengal Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 This seems like a waste of time and money. Mike Brown isn't going anywhere. Maybe a fire Marvin banner and chant could speed up Mike's decision to take such action, but Mr Brown himself will not be stepping down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmellKiperjr Posted October 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 This seems like a waste of time and money. Mike Brown isn't going anywhere. Maybe a fire Marvin banner and chant could speed up Mike's decision to take such action, but Mr Brown himself will not be stepping down.Why fire Lewis? So someone else can come in here and work under the same restrictive system that's produced one winning season in 18? The problem's not the coaches or the players or the medical staff, it's the ownership, and until that's changed we'll be a perennial loser. Will this do anything? I dunno, probably not, but it's worth trying. Individually, fans have no leverage, but as a whole we have enormous power. Why not give it a go before saying it's a waste of time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DelhiBengal Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 Why fire Lewis? So someone else can come in here and work under the same restrictive system that's produced one winning season in 18?Yeah...only this time let's get one who knows how to call timeouts and draft players who actually play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ox Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 Personally I think it's amusing. Effective? Probably not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmellKiperjr Posted October 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 Why fire Lewis? So someone else can come in here and work under the same restrictive system that's produced one winning season in 18?Yeah...only this time let's get one who knows how to call timeouts and draft players who actually play.Listen, I'm not defending the guy, I just think Belichick would fail in the organizational climate established, and perpetuated, by Mike Brown. Until Brown goes everything will just stay the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 I will defend marvin because still don't feel hes the problem and no one would have said he was first 3 years....any coach will end up going down hill in cinci because you have a owner who doesn't care about winning.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregCook Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 I will defend marvin because still don't feel hes the problem and no one would have said he was first 3 years....any coach will end up going down hill in cinci because you have a owner who doesn't care about winning....If the stands are rocking with firing Mike, that could get on ESPN. How much does a banner cost? I might pay for one so the California Bengals can show Mike our middle finger too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COB Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 I will defend marvin because still don't feel hes the problem and no one would have said he was first 3 years....any coach will end up going down hill in cinci because you have a owner who doesn't care about winning....Well said, though I think Mike cares about winning and wants to win. But it is apparent he does not have the football knowledge to act as gm of a winning organization. Marvin is not the problem. But he'll fall on his sword, or Mike will push him on his sword, so we can all be filled with hope once again when he hires the next coach. I hope he runs the names of candidates past his players' council. But since I'm sure he has none, he can just as Cheech and Ced Benson what they think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 It's not that I don't think mike doesn't want to win but he's not willing to do what it takes fif it's gonna cost him money,He preaches how he's a small market owner but doesn't he have one of the best profit turn overs? Hire a real staff Hire Real scouts hire a GM mikey if you actually made this team a real winner then you'd make even a larger profit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volcom69 Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 I cant defend Marvin anymore he gets outcoached every game, his game clock management sucks, he cant go away from his game plan in fact it seems there is no game planing. His coaching staff cant seem to teach anyone on this team he decides not to motivate his players in anyway. Mike Brown may be the owner and says who comes and gos, but i still think Marvin has some say also, just like in Willie, Rudi and Deltha Marvin for some reason seemed to have it in with Rudi, and Deltha. Marvin is still the coach he needs to prepare his guys, he needs to make sure his guys are giving that 110% on the field each time for 4 qts, but so far this year i have not and Marvin has yet to seem to do anything about that. Marvins the coach and since after 2005 he has lost this team and hasnt gotten back and its time to go else where. Oh and Mike Brown needs to go, but he wont and we can only hope he does the right thing. Good luck with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DelhiBengal Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 Do we still have some "In Marvin We Trust" guys out there? How could you not blame Marvin? Maybe it's not Marvin's fault...maybe Brown should get him a franchise quaterback, a couple all-pro receivers, and a 1st round RB who Marvin wanted over Steven Jackson...oh wait...he did...back to Marvin's fault. If Mike Brown should really be blamed for something, it should be his horrible taste in head coaching selections...he's guilty again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volcom69 Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 Agreed with the statement above Marvin has had enough talent here through the years that his numbers should have been much better then what they were. Everybody was just so happy this team could be 8-8 every year and Marvin was the savior,but look what has happend. Just because he took this team from a 2 win team and made them an 8 win team does not make him a savior or a great coach it makes him an OK coach. His job is to coach not to worry about other things and in my mind he has failed. So your telling me after the special 11-5 year this team goes backwards with the same QB,RB,WRs,and most of the o-line. Hell last year this o-line gave only 17 sacks all year what happened. So whatever im done defending Marvin for anything he is a medocore coach who gave this team life at one time but has failed to do anything else and for some reason average seemed to be good enough for people. In Marvin i dont trust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratmandu Posted October 3, 2008 Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 Actually, the league can take the franchise back from ole' Mickey boy if they feel that he is incapable of running a productive program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted October 3, 2008 Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 the word "productive" is key herewhat do you think the NFL considers "productive"?some hints: Brown has a waiting list for season tickets. He has sold out the stadium for the year. He's selling concessions. He's getting Hamilton County to pay for complete replacement of one of the practice fields. Do you know what all these things have in common? one last hint: it does have to do with numbers, but not numbers of wins or of losses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottishbengal Posted October 3, 2008 Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 This seems like a waste of time and money. Mike Brown isn't going anywhere. Maybe a fire Marvin banner and chant could speed up Mike's decision to take such action, but Mr Brown himself will not be stepping down.Why fire Lewis? So someone else can come in here and work under the same restrictive system The problem's not the coaches or the players or the medical staff, it's the ownershipJust a quick question here, but have any of the ex-coaches (either HC's or positional coaching staff) ever spoken out about Mikeys interference? Seems to me if there was habitual and historical "restrictive" involvement from Mikey then the ex-personnel would have a field day running that story to the press. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agreen_112 Posted October 3, 2008 Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 I will step down at the end of the year......... sike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesperateDerelict Posted October 3, 2008 Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 I will step down at the end of the year......... sike.I always thought it started wit a 'P'.If you think Mikey's bad, wait 'till his daughter, son-in-law, and son take over.It'll be verrrrrrrrrrrry uglyyyy!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_Bengals_Fan Posted October 3, 2008 Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 the word "productive" is key herewhat do you think the NFL considers "productive"?some hints: Brown has a waiting list for season tickets. He has sold out the stadium for the year. He's selling concessions. He's getting Hamilton County to pay for complete replacement of one of the practice fields. Do you know what all these things have in common? one last hint: it does have to do with numbers, but not numbers of wins or of lossesNot only that. The "NFL" in question is actually his fellow owners. To do something punitive like removing him from control, I expect they'd need a strong majority of owners. So long as he's not a financial drain on them, that won't happen for two reasons:1) The implication that each franchise is not sovereign wouldn't sit well with any of them.2) They're happy with the status quo - Mikey's giving them all W's. Why would they want to change that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekshank Posted October 4, 2008 Report Share Posted October 4, 2008 I haven't been to a game for the last couple of years simply because I don't pay money for a bad product. I'm a Bengals fan and I'll always root for them, but to me it doesn't make sense to fork over money for a team that never improves. That's not how capitalism works.Going to Bengals game this year would be very much like going to a classy restaurant, forking over $50 for a plate of food, and the waiter promptly dumps a can of cold Chef Boyardee Beefaroni on the plate.I'll be more than happy to pay Mike Brown for a quality product... but one winning season in 18 years ain't cutting it for me. When the Bengals start playing decent football again (If they ever do) that's when you can expect to see me at a game. If all fans were like this, the product might look a bit different. And maybe it wouldn't... maybe he'd move to L.A. But on principle alone, I'm not sure that's any worse than the current situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShulaSteakhouse Posted October 4, 2008 Report Share Posted October 4, 2008 A loud stadium chant would be great actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekshank Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 Do you guys remember back in '05 when the Bengals visited Detroit and the Lions fans had an orange out? They all wore orange in protest of Matt Millen. And it only took 3 years for it to take effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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