Offensive Line Draft Talk Thread

[Wraith]

This is a great perspective

 

[redsbengalsbucks]

15 hours ago, Stripes said:

Poll:

Suppose Atlanta takes Chase at #4. Nobody is biting if/when the Bengals try to trade down. What is your preference?

1) Sewell

2) Pitts

3) Someone else

Pitts and get OT in 2nd OG/C or edge in 3rd

[AMPHAR]

Had  the pleasure of re-watching game number 2 of 2020.   Bengals @ Browns.   Thursday Night Football.

Man,  they need players everywhere.   After watching Fred get dominated at RG probably at least 10 snaps could have been career altering for Burrow.    I think I'm moving off Pitts/Chase.    I would love those players but its just pure incompetence on that line.

 

[Wraith]

48 minutes ago, AMPHAR said:

Had  the pleasure of re-watching game number 2 of 2020.   Bengals @ Browns.   Thursday Night Football.

Man,  they need players everywhere.   After watching Fred get dominated at RG probably at least 10 snaps could have been career altering for Burrow.    I think I'm moving off Pitts/Chase.    I would love those players but its just pure incompetence on that line.

 

That said, Burrow went down and scored what should have been the game winning TD with less than two minutes and our d allowed Cleveland to March right down the field and win the game, if memory serves.

[AMPHAR]

29 minutes ago, Wraith said:

That said, Burrow went down and scored what should have been the game winning TD with less than two minutes and our d allowed Cleveland to March right down the field and win the game, if memory serves.

That was at home.    This was in Cleveland.  Fred was targeted by the Cleveland DL.  They moved their DL over him and then it seemed everyone lined up over him made a highlight play.

Now Xavier, Spain and of course Rief weren't with the Bengals in this game.   Just a lot of faith put on those dudes to stay healthy.

They need multiple WRs and OL in this draft and I hope at pick 38 there are guys at that position they feel good about. 

But after getting reminded about the OL incompetence last night and how dangerously thin they are; I'll be on pins and needles until pick 38 comes up with some OL starting competition.   Then probably pick 69 too.

 

[HoosierCat]

You don’t need Sewell or Slater to fix right guard.

[membengal]

58 minutes ago, HoosierCat said:

You don’t need Sewell or Slater to fix right guard.

For damn sure. 

[GapControl]

On 4/13/2021 at 9:30 PM, Stripes said:

Poll:

Suppose Atlanta takes Chase at #4. Nobody is biting if/when the Bengals try to trade down. What is your preference?

1) Sewell

2) Pitts

3) Someone else

Pitts if no trade down... but someone will over a trade deal to them. Smart money trades down.  

[AMPHAR]

1 hour ago, HoosierCat said:

You don’t need Sewell or Slater to fix right guard.

Slater is a perfect fix for RG for this year.  Then bump out to RT.

Wouldn’t touch him at 5 if he’s full time guard. 

[HoosierCat]

51 minutes ago, AMPHAR said:

Slater is a perfect fix for RG for this year.  Then bump out to RT.

Wouldn’t touch him at 5 if he’s full time guard. 

Sure, but you still don't *need* Slater at 5 to do that. There will be a guy at 38 who can do the same thing and there will be solid starter prospects for a plain old RG as late as the fourth. Maybe even the fifth.

I'm not really directing these comments at you, but more at a general, almost hysterical, trend I see on twitter, and hear on sports talk radio and podcasts. As just one example, you had Tim McGee going apeshit yesterday and declaring that if the Bengals don't take a lineman at five Burrow should demand a trade. This is the ugly underbelly of#TeamSewell (and please note I am NOT saying all of the Sewell fans are like this, most aren't but some of the most vocal are). 

[Wraith]

1 hour ago, HoosierCat said:

Sure, but you still don't *need* Slater at 5 to do that. There will be a guy at 38 who can do the same thing and there will be solid starter prospects for a plain old RG as late as the fourth. Maybe even the fifth.

I'm not really directing these comments at you, but more at a general, almost hysterical, trend I see on twitter, and hear on sports talk radio and podcasts. As just one example, you had Tim McGee going apeshit yesterday and declaring that if the Bengals don't take a lineman at five Burrow should demand a trade. This is the ugly underbelly of#TeamSewell (and please note I am NOT saying all of the Sewell fans are like this, most aren't but some of the most vocal are). 

hilarious because the ONLY way the Bengals take Chase is if Burrow campaigns for him...  I am 100% certain of this.

[membengal]

Matt Miller's Big Boards - Top 100 and also his rankings at each position. Enjoy.

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Top 100 Overall

1. QB Trevor Lawrence, Clemson
2. WR Ja'Marr Chase, LSU
3. TE Kyle Pitts, Florida
4. OT Penei Sewell, Oregon
5. QB Justin Fields, Ohio State
6. LB Micah Parsons, Penn State
7. QB Zach Wilson, BYU
8. OT Rashawn Slater, Northwestern
9. WR DeVonta Smith, Alabama
10. WR Jaylen Waddle, Alabama
11. CB Patrick Surtain II, Alabama
12. QB Trey Lance, North Dakota State
13. S Trevon Moehrig, TCU
14. LB/S Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah, Notre Dame
15. EDGE Jaelan Phillips, Miami
16. CB Jaycee Horn, South Carolina
17. RB Najee Harris, Alabama
18. LB Jamin Davis, Kentucky
19. EDGE Kwity Paye, Michigan
20. CB Caleb Farley, Virginia Tech
21. OT Christian Darrisaw, Virginia Tech
22. EDGE Joseph Ossai, Texas
23. EDGE Azeez Ojulari, Georgia
24. DL Christian Barmore, Alabama
25. WR Kadarius Toney, Florida
26. IOL Alijah Vera-Tucker, USC
27. QB Mac Jones, Alabama
28. WR Elijah Moore, Ole Miss
29. CB Greg Newsome II, Northwestern
30. RB Javonte Williams, North Carolina
31. OT Teven Jenkins, Oklahoma State
32. LB Zaven Collins, Tulsa
33. IOL Landon Dickerson, Alabama
34. CB Tyson Campbell, Georgia
35. WR Terrace Marshall Jr., LSU
36. OT Sam Cosmi, Texas
37. EDGE Jayson Oweh, Penn State
38. DL Daviyon Nixon, Iowa
39. DL Levi Onwuzurike, Washington
40. EDGE Ronnie Perkins, Oklahoma
41. EDGE Gregory Rousseau, Miami
42. TE Pat Freiermuth, Penn State
43. OT Walker Little, Stanford
44. S Jevon Holland, Oregon
45. EDGE Joe Tryon, Washington
46. TE Tommy Tremble, Notre Dame
47. LB Nick Bolton, Missouri
48. LB Jabril Cox, LSU
49. RB Travis Etienne, Clemson
50. WR Rashod Bateman, Minnesota
51. QB Kyle Trask, Florida
52. OT Liam Eichenberg, Notre Dame
53. OT James Hudson, Cincinnati
54. CB Aaron Robinson, UCF
55. CB Asante Samuel Jr., FSU
56. CB Kelvin Joseph, Kentucky
57. WR Dyami Brown, North Carolina
58. OT Dillon Radunz, North Dakota State
59. OT Jalen Mayfield, Michigan
60. EDGE Chris Rumph II, Duke
61. S Divine Deablo, Virginia Tech
62. IOL Creed Humphrey, Oklahoma
63. LB Ernest Jones, South Carolina
64. LB Chazz Surratt, North Carolina
65. WR Nico Collins, Michigan
66. OT Alex Leatherwood, Alabama
67. IOL Aaron Banks, Notre Dame
68. OT Stone Forsythe, Florida
69. S Jamar Johnson, Indiana
70. CB Eric Stokes, Georgia
71. IOL Quinn Meinerz, Wisconsin-Whitewater
72. IOL Josh Myers, Ohio State
73. EDGE Carlos Basham Jr., Wake Forest
74. WR Rondale Moore, Purdue
75. QB Kellen Mond, Texas A&M
76. QB Davis Mills, Stanford
77. OT Spencer Brown, Northern Iowa
78. EDGE Malcolm Koonce, Buffalo
79. WR Anthony Schwartz, Auburn
80. WR D'Wayne Eskridge, Western Michigan
81. S Richie Grant, Central Florida
82. EDGE Payton Turner, Houston
83. TE Hunter Long, Boston College
84. WR Amari Rodgers, Clemson
85. WR Tutu Atwell, Louisville
86. EDGE Jordan Smith, UAB
87. LB Baron Browning, Ohio State
88. S Talanoa Hufanga, USC
89. DL Milton Williams, Lousiana Tech
90. EDGE Dayo Odeyingbo, Vanderbilt
91. EDGE Rashad Weaver, Pitt
92. CB Robert Rochell, Central Arkansas
93. CB Elijah Molden, Washington
94. EDGE Quincy Roche, Miami
95. CB Benjamin St-Juste, Minnesota
96. WR Cade Johnson, South Dakota State
97. IOL Jackson Carman, Clemson
98. EDGE Patrick Johnson, Tulane
99. LB Derrick Barnes, Purdue
100. CB Tay Gowan, Central Florida

Top Quarterbacks

QB1 Trevor Lawrence, Clemson (Overall Rank: #1)
QB2 Justin Fields, Ohio State (#5)
QB3 Zach Wilson, BYU (#7)
QB4 Trey Lance, North Dakota State (#12)
QB5 Mac Jones, Alabama (#27)
QB6 Kyle Trask, Florida (#51)
QB7 Kellen Mond, Texas A&M (#75)
QB8 Davis Mills Stanford (#76)
QB9 Sam Ehlinger, Texas (#194)
QB10 Jamie Newman, Georgia (#212)
QB11 Shane Buechele, SMU (#250)
QB12 Ian Book, Notre Dame (#262)
QB13 Feleipe Franks, Arkansas (#284)
QB14 Brady White, Memphis (#285)

Top Running Backs

RB1 Najee Harris, Alabama (Overall Rank: #17)
RB2 Javonte Williams, North Carolina (#30)
RB3 Travis Etienne, Clemson (#49)
RB4 Michael Carter, North Carolina (#111)
RB5 Trey Sermon, Ohio State (#117)
RB6 Rhamondre Stevenson, Oklahoma (#123)
RB7 Jaret Patterson, Buffalo (#127)
RB8 Demetric Felton, UCLA (#129)
RB9 Kenneth Gainwell, Memphis (#137)
RB10 Kylin Hill, Mississippi State (#154)
RB11 Larry Rountree III, Missouri (#190)
RB12 Jermar Jefferson, Oregon State (#195)
RB13 Chuba Hubbard, Oklahoma State (#200)
RB14 Javian Hawkins, Louisville (#202)
RB15 Khalil Herbert, Virginia Tech (#206)
RB16 Chris Evans, Michigan (#213)
RB17 Deon Jackson, Duke (#218)
RB18 Brenden Knox, Marshall (#221)
RB19 Elijah Mitchell, Louisiana (#229)
RB20 Rakeem Boyd, Arkansas (#245)
RB21 Jake Funk, Maryland (#279)
RB22 Kene Nwangwu, Iowa State (#280)
RB23 Pooka Williams, Kansas (#301)
RB24 Trey Ragas, Louisiana (#302)
RB25 Stevie Scott II, Indiana (#324)

Top Fullbacks

FB1 Ben Mason, Michigan (Overall Rank: #287)
FB2 Mason Stokke, Wisconsin (#303)
FB3 Carl Tucker, Alabama (#304)
FB4 Tory Carter, LSU (#306)

Top Wide Receivers

WR1 Ja'Marr Chase, LSU (Overall Rank: #2)
WR2 DeVonta Smith, Alabama (#9)
WR3 Jaylen Waddle, Alabama (#10)
WR4 Kadarius Toney, Florida (#25)
WR5 Elijah Moore, Ole Miss (#28)
WR6 Terrace Marshall Jr., LSU (#35)
WR7 Rashod Bateman, Minnesota (#50)
WR8 Dyami Brown, North Carolina (#57)
WR9 Nico Collins, Michigan (#65)
WR10 Rondale Moore, Purdue (#74)
WR11 Anthony Schwartz, Auburn (#79)
WR12 D'Wayne Eskridge, Western Michigan (#80)
WR13 Amari Rodgers, Clemson (#84)
WR14 Tutu Atwell, Louisville (#85)
WR15 Cade Johnson, South Dakota State (#96)
WR16 Tylan Wallace, Oklahoma State (#101)
WR17 Amon-Ra St. Brown, USC (#103)
WR18 Simi Fehoko, Stanford (#104)
WR19 Josh Palmer, Tennessee (#114)
WR20 Cornell Powell, Clemson (#119)
WR21 Marquez Stevenson, Houston (#146)
WR22 Austin Watkins Jr., UAB (#157)
WR23 Sage Surratt, Wake Forest (#159)
WR24 Dax Milne, BYU (#161)
WR25 Josh Imatorbhebhe, Illinois (#163)
WR26 Frank Darby, Arizona State (#164)
WR27 Shi Smith, South Carolina (#175)
WR28 Tamorrion Terry, Florida State (#182)
WR29 Whop Philyor, Indiana (#184)
WR30 Tre Nixon, UCF (#185)
WR31 Ihmir Smith-Marsette, Iowa (#187)
WR32 Jaelon Darden, North Texas (#191)
WR33 Dazz Newsome, North Carolina (#192)
WR34 Seth Williams, Auburn (#193)
WR35 Desmond Fitzpatrick, Louisville (#217)
WR36 Michael Strachan, Charleston (#231)
WR37 Racey McMath, LSU (#238)
WR38 Ben Skowronek, Notre Dame (#240)
WR39 Warren Jackson, Colorado State (#242)
WR40 Tyler Vaughns, USC (#251)
WR41 Isaiah McKoy, Kent State (#252)
WR42 Jacob Harris, Central Florida (#254)
WR43 Jonathan Adams, Arkansas State (#256)
WR44 Osirus Mitchell, Mississippi State (#257)
WR45 Brennan Eagles, Texas (#261)
WR46 Trevon Grimes, Florida (#275)
WR47 Jhamon Ausbon, Texas A&M (#277)
WR48 Blake Proehl, East Carolina (#278)
WR49 T.J. Vasher, Texas Tech (#282)
WR50 Brandon Smith, Iowa (#288)
WR51 Javon McKinley, Notre Dame (#289)
WR52 Jalen Camp, Georgia Tech (#297)
WR53 Tre Walker, San Jose State (#311)
WR54 Rico Bussey Jr., Hawaii (#315)
WR55 Adrian Hardy, Louisiana Tech (#319)
WR56 Branden Mack, Temple (#322)
WR57 Connor Wedington, Stanford (#327)
WR58 Damonte Coxie, Memphis (#329)
WR59 Tarik Black, Texas (#330)
WR60 Dai'Jean Dixon, Nicholls State (#331)
WR61 Tim Jones, Southern Miss (#332)

Top Tight Ends

TE1 Kyle Pitts, Florida (Overall Rank: #3)
TE2 Pat Freiermuth, Penn State (#42)
TE3 Tommy Tremble, Notre Dame (#46)
TE4 Hunter Long, Boston College (#83)
TE5 Brevin Jordan, Miami (#132)
TE6 Zach Davidson, Central Missouri (#145)
TE7 Tony Poljan, Virginia (#208)
TE8 Kenny Yeboah, Ole Miss (#209)
TE9 Noah Gray, Duke (#219)
TE10 Kylen Granson, SMU (#230)
TE11 Quintin Morris, Bowling Green (#255)
TE12 Tre McKitty, Georgia (#260)
TE13 Miller Forristall, Alabama (#271)
TE14 Cary Angeline, North Carolina State (#281)
TE15 John Bates, Boise State (#286)
TE16 Pro Wells, TCU (#293)
TE17 Matt Bushman, BYU (#295)

Top Offensive Tackles

OT1 Penei Sewell, Oregon (Overall Rank: #4)
OT2 Rashawn Slater, Northwestern (#8)
OT3 Christian Darrisaw, Virginia Tech (#21)
OT4 Teven Jenkins, Oklahoma State (#31)
OT5 Sam Cosmi, Texas (#36)
OT6 Walker Little, Stanford (#43)
OT7 Liam Eichenberg, Notre Dame (#52)
OT8 James Hudson, Cincinnati (#53)
OT9 Dillon Radunz, North Dakota State (#58)
OT10 Jalen Mayfield, Michigan (#59)
OT11 Alex Leatherwood, Alabama (#66)
OT12 Stone Forsythe, Florida (#68)
OT13 Spencer Brown, Northern Iowa (#77)
OT14 D'Ante Smith, East Carolina (#113)
OT15 Brady Christensen, BYU (#162)
OT16 Jaylon Moore, Western Michigan (#180)
OT17 Josh Ball, Marshall (#207)
OT18 Adrian Ealy, Oklahoma (#243)
OT19 Alaric Jackson, Iowa (#276)
OT20 Robert Jones, MTSU (#298)
OT21 Brenden Jaimes, Nebraska (#300)
OT22 Cole Van Lanen, Wisconsin (#317)
OT23 Landon Young, Kentucky (#321)

Top Interior Offensive Linemen

IOL1 Alijah Vera-Tucker, USC (Overall Rank: #26)
IOL2 Landon Dickerson, Alabama (#33)
IOL3 Creed Humphrey, Oklahoma (#62)
IOL4 Aaron Banks, Notre Dame (#67)
IOL5 Quinn Meinerz, Wisconsin-Whitewater (#71)
IOL6 Josh Myers, Ohio State (#72)
IOL7 Jackson Carman, Clemson (#97)
IOL8 Deonte Brown, Alabama (#108)
IOL9 Wyatt Davis, Ohio State (#116)
IOL10 Royce Newman, Ole Miss (#124)
IOL11 Kendrick Green, Illinois (#135)
IOL12 Trey Smith, Tennessee (#141)
IOL13 Drew Dalman, Stanford (#143)
IOL14 Michal Menet, Penn State (#152)
IOL15 Drake Jackson, Kentucky (#165)
IOL16 Ben Cleveland, Georgia (#179)
IOL17 Jared Hocker, Texas A&M (#186)
IOL18 Jack Anderson, Texas Tech (#196)
IOL19 Sadarius Hutcherson, South Carolina (#203)
IOL20 Robert Hainsey, Notre Dame (#220)
IOL21 David Moore, Grambling State (#241)
IOL22 Tristen Hoge, BYU (#247)
IOL23 Calvin Ashley, Florida A&M (#263)
IOL24 Tommy Doyle, Miami (OH) (#267)
IOL25 Trey Hill, Georgia (#268)
IOL26 Jimmy Morrissey, Pitt (#269)
IOL27 Ryan McCollum, Texas A&M (#270)
IOL28 Jake Curhan, California (#274)
IOL29 Dan Moore Jr., Texas A&M (#292)

Top Defensive Linemen

DL1 Christian Barmore, Alabama (Overall Rank: #24)
DL2 Daviyon Nixon, Iowa (#38)
DL3 Levi Onwuzurike, Washington (#39)
DL4 Milton Williams, Louisiana Tech (#89)
DL5 Tommy Togiai, Ohio State (#105)
DL6 Marlon Tuipulotu, USC (#118)
DL7 Jay Tufele, USC (#126)
DL8 Tyler Shelvin, LSU (#130)
DL9 Alim McNeill, NC State (#140)
DL10 Darius Stills, West Virginia (#158)
DL11 Marvin Wilson, Florida State (#171)
DL12 Bobby Brown III, Texas A&M (#183)
DL13 Khyiris Tonga, BYU (#189)
DL14 Tedarrell Slaton, Florida (#204)
DL15 Osa Odighizuwa , UCLA (#225)
DL16 Ta'Quon Graham, Texas (#237)
DL17 Jaylen Twyman, Pitt (#258)
DL18 Quinton Bohanna, Kentucky (#272)
DL19 Mustafa Johnson, Colorado (#310)

Top Edge Rushers

EDGE1 Jaelan Phillips, Miami (Overall Rank: #15)
EDGE2 Kwity Paye, Michigan (#19)
EDGE3 Joseph Ossai, Texas (#22)
EDGE4 Azeez Ojulari, Georgia (#23)
EDGE5 Jayson Oweh, Penn State (#37)
EDGE6 Ronnie Perkins, Oklahoma (#40)
EDGE7 Gregory Rousseau, Miami (#41)
EDGE8 Joe Tryon, Washington (#45)
EDGE9 Chris Rumph II, Duke (#60)
EDGE10 Carlos Basham Jr., Wake Forest (#73)
EDGE11 Malcolm Koonce, Buffalo (#78)
EDGE12 Payton Turner, Houston (#82)
EDGE13 Jordan Smith, UAB (#86)
EDGE14 Dayo Odeyingbo, Vanderbilt (#90)
EDGE15 Rashad Weaver, Pitt (#91)
EDGE16 Quincy Roche, Miami (#94)
EDGE17 Patrick Johnson, Tulane (#98)
EDGE18 Patrick Jones II, Pitt (#102)
EDGE19 Victor Dimukeje, Duke (#112)
EDGE20 Daelin Hayes, Notre Dame (#115)
EDGE21 Cameron Sample, Tulane (#120)
EDGE22 Wyatt Hubert, Kansas State (#138)
EDGE23 William Bradley-King, Baylor (#151)
EDGE24 Janarius Robinson, Florida State (#167)
EDGE25 Elerson Smith, Northern Iowa (#172)
EDGE26 Tarron Jackson, Coastal Carolina (#197)
EDGE27 Shaka Toney, Penn State (#210)
EDGE28 Earnest Brown IV, Northwestern (#211)
EDGE29 Adetokunbo Ogundeji, Notre Dame (#214)
EDGE30 Chauncey Golston, Iowa (#239)
EDGE31 Jonathon Cooper, Ohio State (#246)
EDGE32 Joshua Kaindoh, Florida State (#249)
EDGE33 Malik Herring, Georgia (#294)

Top Linebackers

LB1 Micah Parsons, Penn State (Overall Rank: #6)
LB2 Jamin Davis, Kentucky (#18)
LB3 Zaven Collins, Tulsa (#32)
LB4 Nick Bolton, Missouri (#47)
LB5 Jabril Cox, LSU (#48)
LB6 Ernest Jones, South Carolina (#63)
LB7 Chazz Surratt, North Carolina (#64)
LB8 Baron Browning, Ohio State (#87)
LB9 Derrick Barnes, Purdue (#99)
LB10 Cameron McGrone, Michigan (#106)
LB11 Pete Werner, Ohio State (#109)
LB12 Dylan Moses, Alabama (#122)
LB13 Tony Fields II, West Virginia (#160)
LB14 K.J. Britt, Auburn (#177)
LB15 Justin Hilliard, Ohio State (#199)
LB16 Hamilcar Rashed Jr., Oregon State (#226)
LB17 Monty Rice, Georgia (#227)
LB18 Charles Snowden III, Virginia (#228)
LB19 Amen Ogbongbemiga, Oklahoma State (#235)
LB20 Robert Sawler, Oklahoma Baptist (#236)
LB21 Garret Wallow, TCU (#259)
LB22 Grant Stuard, Houston (#264)
LB23 Tuf Borland, Ohio State (#283)
LB24 Riley Cole, South Alabama (#296)
LB25 Paddy Fisher, Northwestern (#299)
LB26 Anthony Hines, Texas A&M (#307)
LB27 Isaiah McDuffie, Boston College (#309)

Top Cornerbacks

CB1 Patrick Surtain II, Alabama (Overall Rank: #11)
CB2 Jaycee Horn, South Carolina (#16)
CB3 Caleb Farley, Virginia Tech (#20)
CB4 Greg Newsome II, Northwestern (#29)
CB5 Tyson Campbell, Georgia (#34)
CB6 Aaron Robinson, UCF (#54)
CB7 Asante Samuel Jr., FSU (#55)
CB8 Kelvin Joseph, Kentucky (#56)
CB9 Eric Stokes, Georgia (#70)
CB10 Robert Rochell, Central Arkansas (#92)
CB11 Elijah Molden, Washington (#93)
CB12 Benjamin St-Juste, Minnesota (#95)
CB13 Tay Gowan, Central Florida (#100)
CB14 Ifeatu Melifonwu, Syracuse (#107)
CB15 Brandon Stephens, SMU (#133)
CB16 Shakur Brown, Michigan State (#136)
CB17 Paulson Adebo, Stanford (#142)
CB18 Shaun Wade, Ohio State (#147)
CB19 Marco Wilson, Florida (#148)
CB20 Bryce Thompson, Tennessee (#150)
CB21 Kary Vincent Jr., LSU (#156)
CB22 DJ Daniel, Georgia (#168)
CB23 Israel Mukuamu, South Carolina (#169)
CB24 Keith Taylor, Washington (#170)
CB25 Ambry Thomas, Michigan (#176)
CB26 Olaijah Griffin, USC (#178)
CB27 Tre Brown, Oklahoma (#188)
CB28 Bryan Mills, North Carolina Central (#198)
CB29 Rodarius Williams, Oklahoma State (#201)
CB30 Darren Hall, San Diego State (#205)
CB31 Camryn Bynum, California (#216)
CB32 Michael Carter II, Duke (#222)
CB33 Mark Gilbert, Duke (#223)
CB34 Zach McPhearson, Texas Tech (#224)
CB35 Deommodore Lenoir, Oregon (#232)
CB36 Tre Norwood, Oklahoma (#273)
CB37 Thomas Graham Jr., Oregon (#290)
CB38 Sam Webb, Missouri Western (#291)
CB39 Rachad Wildgoose, Wisconsin (#308)
CB40 Chris Wilcox, BYU (#312)
CB41 Dicaprio Bootle, Nebraska (#313)
CB42 Nahshon Wright, Oregon State (#314)
CB43 Brandin Echols, Kentucky (#316)
CB44 Lorenzo Burns, Arizona (#318)
CB45 Marlon Character, Louisville (#323)
CB46 Antonio Phillips, Ball State (#325)
CB47 Nate Hobbs, Illinois (#326)
CB48 Shemar Jean-Charles, Appalachian State (#328)

Top Safeties

S1 Trevon Moehrig, TCU (Overall Rank: #13)
S2 Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah, Notre Dame (#14)
S3 Jevon Holland, Oregon (#44)
S4 Divine Deablo, Virginia Tech (#61)
S5 Jamar Johnson, Indiana (#69)
S6 Richie Grant, Central Florida (#81)
S7 Talanoa Hufanga, USC (#88)
S8 Hamsah Nasirildeen, Florida State (#110)
S9 Tyree Gillespie, Missouri (#121)
S10 Shawn Davis, Florida (#125)
S11 Caden Sterns, Texas (#128)
S12 Christian Uphoff, Illinois State (#131)
S13 Andre Cisco, Syracuse (#134)
S14 Jamien Sherwood, Auburn (#139)
S15 Tariq Thompson, San Diego State (#144)
S16 JaCoby Stevens, LSU (#149)
S17 James Wiggins, Cincinnati (#153)
S18 Trill Williams, Syracuse (#155)
S19 Ar'Darius Washington, TCU (#166)
S20 Damar Hamlin, Pitt (#173)
S21 Donovan Stiner, Florida (#174)
S22 Richard LeCounte, Georgia (#181)
S23 Mark Webb, Georgia (#215)
S24 Joshuah Bledsoe, Missouri (#233)
S25 Aashari Crosswell, Arizona State (#234)
S26 Brady Breeze, Oregon (#244)
S27 Paris Ford, Pitt (#248)
S28 Marcus Murphy, Mississippi State (#253)
S29 Chris Brown, Texas (#265)
S30 Darrick Forrest, Cincinnati (#266)
S31 Christian Tutt, Auburn (#305)
S32 Eric Burrell, Wisconsin (#320)

 

 

[membengal]

He's way lower on Cleveland and Leatherwood, for instance, than I am (or a lot of evaluators) but MAN, does this underscore how deep o-line is in this draft.

[Wraith]

God, how good would it be to take Chase at #5, Dickerson at #38 and Alex Leatherwood at #69

[membengal]

A dream. And then Cleveland at 149. Just fix this shit.

[redsbengalsbucks]

10 minutes ago, membengal said:

A dream. And then Cleveland at 149. Just fix this shit.

 

14 minutes ago, Wraith said:

God, how good would it be to take Chase at #5, Dickerson at #38 and Alex Leatherwood at #69

Got to go Edge with either 2 or 3rd pick.

I'm solidly team Chase, then OL, edge

[membengal]

Eff EDGE. Just sign Kerrigan or Houston still out there in FA as a one-year stopgap. Since o-line is this deep in this particular draft, just hammer line. Address it once and for all. 

[membengal]

Matt Miller is releasing individual scouting reports to his subscribers. I am not going to put them all here, but he did release his report on Chase today, so I will paste that. I don't think he has done any for o-line yet, but when he does I will put Sewell's up here too.

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Name: Ja’Marr Chase

Position: WR

College: LSU

Height: 6’0 3/8"

Weight: 201 lbs (pro day)

Overall Rank: No. 2 overall

Position Rank: WR1

Strengths: Chase is the ideal combination of body control, strength, physicality, speed and overall athleticism. Despite not having elite height, he’s a monster in traffic because he’s strong enough to out-position defenders and has elite vertical jump skills. Against SEC defenders in 2019, before he opted out of the 2020 season, Chase showed the speed to separate over the top of defenses (see Florida and Alabama games) when facing man coverage. He’s a WR1 from Day 1 on an NFL team. In 2019, as a 19-year-old, Chase scored 20 touchdowns and won the Fred Biletnikoff Award as the nation’s best receiver. He is scheme-proof and can fit into any role playing outside and inside receiver.

Weaknesses: There isn’t much to write here. Chase isn’t amazing in terms of open-field quickness and elusiveness. That might be it.

What I Love: Few wide receiver prospects combine Chase’s physicality, aggressiveness and athleticism. He’s super-aggressive and competitive but also has the speed to blow past defenders. He’s rare.

NFL Comparison: Amari Cooper

Grade: 97/100

Position Specific Traits:
(key: +, ++, +++ positive scale | -, - -, - - - negative scale)

Agility: ++
Big Plays: +++
Hands: ++
Jumping: +++
Route-Running: +++
Speed: ++
Strength: +++

 

 

[HoosierCat]

 

[Wraith]

27 minutes ago, HoosierCat said:

 

I love him as a third round option, not so much in the second, where he is likely to go, just not alot of game tape and what is there is against DIII

[GapControl]

The more you watch the 2020 offensive line play, the more you’ll think that adding multiple players to that group is the way to go.  Tobin will take a trade down if he can do that.  Get a Slater or  Darrisaw.  Don’t hang up on the hype of a 15 game player.  You’ve got decent WR prospects this year too through the rounds.  Think more Darney Scott than Craig Yeast.

[AMPHAR]

8 hours ago, HoosierCat said:

Sure, but you still don't *need* Slater at 5 to do that. There will be a guy at 38 who can do the same thing and there will be solid starter prospects for a plain old RG as late as the fourth. Maybe even the fifth.

I'm not really directing these comments at you, but more at a general, almost hysterical, trend I see on twitter, and hear on sports talk radio and podcasts. As just one example, you had Tim McGee going apeshit yesterday and declaring that if the Bengals don't take a lineman at five Burrow should demand a trade. This is the ugly underbelly of#TeamSewell (and please note I am NOT saying all of the Sewell fans are like this, most aren't but some of the most vocal are). 

Understood and I agree the takes like McGee's are crap.  However the Bengals are trying to walk a fine line IF they go Chase/Pitts at 5.

They will have to hope for no run on OL in first/early 2nd.  Hope there is OL THEY grade as starter as rookie over any other position.   Then most importantly have that player work out.

I mean if we are being honest we've talked about OL in the 2nd for multiple years on this board and a lot of the names thrown around aren't solutions today and much less their rookie years.

Slater hands down fixes RG this year.   Worse case he's a Zietler type guard.  I know that's not ideal with the 5th pick.    Medium case he's dominant guard like Nelson.   Best case he's high level tackle starter in the mode of Whitworth. 

 

 

[TJJackson]

8 hours ago, HoosierCat said:

Sure, but you still don't *need* Slater at 5 to do that. There will be a guy at 38 who can do the same thing and there will be solid starter prospects for a plain old RG as late as the fourth. Maybe even the fifth.

I'm not really directing these comments at you, but more at a general, almost hysterical, trend I see on twitter, and hear on sports talk radio and podcasts. As just one example, you had Tim McGee going apeshit yesterday and declaring that if the Bengals don't take a lineman at five Burrow should demand a trade. This is the ugly underbelly of#TeamSewell (and please note I am NOT saying all of the Sewell fans are like this, most aren't but some of the most vocal are). 

Houshmanzadeh also says to take a lineman at 5.  He backed off of saying it had to be Sewell, as he doesnt want to fight about whether Sewell is the best OL in the draft

I love Chase and Pitts, wouldnt be unhappy with either, but would also be happy with back to back linemen at 5 and at 38

Still prefer a tradedown over all other options.....too damn many holes to fill

I really, really, really want Creed Humphrey.  Probably lost if not taken at 38, and might not even be available then.

[HoosierCat]

12 minutes ago, AMPHAR said:

Understood and I agree the takes like McGee's are crap.  However the Bengals are trying to walk a fine line IF they go Chase/Pitts at 5.

 

I think we just disagree on how fine the line is. I think it’s pretty thick this season and it just doesn’t worry me. Anyhow, here’s a good thread on Wyatt Davis.

 

[COB]

3 hours ago, Wraith said:

I love him as a third round option, not so much in the second, where he is likely to go, just not alot of game tape and what is there is against DIII

I haven’t seen bench pressing that good since Russel Bodine.