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5 minutes ago, volcom69 said:

I hate football media, but I do agree with ones that say this team is way to finesse. There is nothing physical about them, they get pushed around all the time. 

I don’t agree with that. They weren’t getting out physicaled yesterday, they were just fukking up left and right.

6 minutes ago, volcom69 said:

Not only that but they are so vanilla, they take no chances. There were no trick plays, no end arounds, nothing to keep the Pats guessing. Every year it’s the same damn thing, and it really getting frustrated. 

This I can get behind. The o is one dimensional and lacks creativity.

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If you like to be extra pissed off about this loss, on his wrap video last night Lap said “it was his understanding” that the league had told the bengals that the refs botched the call and the Gesicki TD catch should have stood.

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Yeah Lap let it be known the league thinks that was a TD.  

I do believe the defense is and has been soft.   They simply have never been "Zimmer like" under Lou.   Lou for the most part has bend but don't break unit that has come up huge in several important games.  But it bleeds yards.

If the offense is stuck in low gear it exposes that defense, IMO.   Patriots didn't roll up a bunch of points, but they were able to bleed time and limit possessions because of missed or I think mostly soft tackling.

Offense puts up a smidge of production in the first half, the Pats can't sit back there and play dump off, run the ball and expect to win.   Unfortunately due to a TO on the goal line and another TO early in the first half it cemented the Pats ability to play stall ball.

But the defense is soft.   The All-22 constantly show bad angles, bad run fits, and just flat out poor effort in tackling and/or tackling the ball for TO.  Which has rewarded them at times.   Some of that is not being in game shape because they simply don't practice hard in TC.   Even the prized Free Agent from big bad Baltimore defense had a horrible missed tackle.

 

 

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3 hours ago, HoosierCat said:

If you like to be extra pissed off about this loss, on his wrap video last night Lap said “it was his understanding” that the league had told the bengals that the refs botched the call and the Gesicki TD catch should have stood.

Odd, I wasn't even upset by the call.  I thought you had to maintain possession of the ball through the catch.
It appeared "TO ME" that he didn't have control of the ball through the catch and didn't regain it until already out of bounds.
I could be wrong and maybe the way I view it is incorrect translation of the rule.

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As predicted a lot of Bengal conversation following the loss.    Pick your topic

1. Need to get Chase target

2. Yoshi sucks

3. Run more

Can't do it if your QB can't convert 3rd downs.   Just several instances of bad pressure on 3rd downs and throwing before the markers that didn't result in conversions.   Can't do all the running, targeting when your only running 50 some plays.

 

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Have to run the ball more.  It’s their simplest way out of this.  Their one td scoring drive they ran the ball successfully.  I think 5 running plays.  Then the next two possessions zero running plays.  Zac needs to rethink this play calling.

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My $0.02: The No. 1 issue to me, by far, is Joe Burrow. I think we all agree that he did not look right out there Sunday.

The question is, is the problem in his head, or in his wrist?

Sunday was the first time he'd been back playing the real thing in like 10 months...some of which were famously spent playing fashion model in Paris. Now that's fine, I don't expect him to be all football 24/7/365. That's a recipe for burnout. But he didn't look like he was seeing the field and processing as fast as he usually does Sunday. Honestly I hope this is all it is, that he just needs a week or two to get back in the groove.

Then there's the wrist. Lots of reports of him futzing with it and the wristband, and taking extra throws on the sidelines late in the fourth. And we all know how he had opportunities deep on the last drive and didn't even look downfield. He attempted 29 passes Sunday and they were almost all short. If his wrist only has a couple dozen passes in it a game, and maybe fewer if he tries to air it out multiple times, we are in a world of hurt.

Time will tell.

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Just saw Ja'Marr's post game interview.
Dude sounded way irritated with the whole thing.
Answers were measured and short.  At least three times answering "Ask Zac" when asked about how the game went.
Not sure how to translate any of it, but there feels like a bit of tension existing between everyone.

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11 minutes ago, ArmyBengal said:

Just saw Ja'Marr's post game interview.
Dude sounded way irritated with the whole thing.
Answers were measured and short.  At least three times answering "Ask Zac" when asked about how the game went.
Not sure how to translate any of it, but there feels like a bit of tension existing between everyone.

Eh, they just lost an ugly game they were supposed to win, at home, Chase is dehydrated and looking for an iv and a bunch of media numbskulls are asking the same old stupid questions. I’d be irritated too.

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Let’s go back to last years post for the first couple games. I bet we all say the same thing, Burrow was not seeing the field good at all. I’m still not convinced the wrist is healthy, or he is scared he is going to hurt it again. Like the one writer said  Used to be Fuck Jamar is out there somewhere to Fuck will just check it down here. Until he starts trusting his wrist or trusting the guys around him I’m guessing will just see check downs.

Oh and please please let Burton play this week, let him prove what he can do. I also hope Mims is ready Brown looked only so-so getting knocked over was not a good look

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39 minutes ago, volcom69 said:

Let’s go back to last years post for the first couple games. I bet we all say the same thing.

This courtesy Hoosier after the week one loss last year…

The most alarming thing to me was Burrow's performance. I know everyone has bad days but he was flat-out awful yesterday. Being rusty from a lack of practice and preseason snaps is one thing, looking like you're playing football for the first time in your life, and failing badly, is another.

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The last drive suggest wrist watch.     I feel better after watching the Goodberry video.  

1. Pat played excellent D.  A lot 2 deep, 4 across underneath.  Good rally to the ball.

2. Bengals protected well.  Had answers for the few blitzes.

3. Early; Burrow didn't take easy outlets to RBs the Pats deep coverage.  I think he saw them just decided not to.

4. Bengals clearly adjusted and were successful in attacking coverage.  But unforced errors (Gesicki dropped TD, Hudson fumble, Jones fumble, Multiple drops) kept the momentum with the Pats.  Allowed to keep being conservative on offense.

Either bad play call or great D call.  On the 4th and 2 screen.   Did Burrow check into it?  Don't know.

Last drive is the mystery.   He had a look and routes that indicated a deep shot should be taken.  Good pass pro.  Didn't take it and invented pressure.  Why?    "you gotta go high Cole, pick a line and you can drive through it".

Burrow won't continue to play this bad.   They'll be fine was my take away.

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10 minutes ago, ArmyBengal said:

Mixon is AFC Offensive player of the week.
Happy for him !!

Going with him and CJ AB!  Going with your Junior!
 

Between trading Mixon and Chase’s ‘Prima Donna’ BS.  He ran his mouth about getting more than Jefferson.  The Bengals offer it to him and he turns it down? I bet he could sit out the season and the Bengals wouldn’t have the guts to NOT pay him.   BS!

Fifty six years has been enough for me!  This franchise will NEVER take a Lombardi home.

Going with my brother-in-Christ C.J. and Mix.

 I’m done!
 

Goodnight Irene!

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50 minutes ago, gregcook68 said:

Going with him and CJ AB!  Going with your Junior!
 

Between trading Mixon and Chase’s ‘Prima Donna’ BS.  He ran his mouth about getting more than Jefferson.  The Bengals offer it to him and he turns it down? I bet he could sit out the season and the Bengals wouldn’t have the guts to NOT pay him.   BS!

Fifty six years has been enough for me!  This franchise will NEVER take a Lombardi home.

Going with my brother-in-Christ C.J. and Mix.

 I’m done!
 

Goodnight Irene!

 

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