ArmyBengal Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 I know I use to harp on linebackers for years and have backed off over the last couple. This year we again, have Wilson, Pratt and ADG in the 1-3 roles. However, we only have Heyward and Harper as backups. Couple that with ADG and Heyward (who I'm not even sure if he's gotten snaps) both as free agents next year. They could easily take a LB this year as well, which is a position not being discussed at all. God help that position group if injuries hit the starters. That closet is BARE !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMPHAR Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 On 3/20/2024 at 2:37 PM, ArmyBengal said: Playing around with the mock drafts again, as I so enjoy doing and had this drop in my lap. #18. - JC Latham, OT, Alabama #49. - Byron Murphy, DT, Texas #80. - Xavier Legette, WR, South Carolina #97. - Cade Stover, TE, Ohio State #116. - Brandon Coleman, OG, TCU #149. - Jaylen Wright, RB, Tennessee #194. - Elijah Jones, CB, Boston College #214. - Ryan Rehkow, P, BYU 7th round... who cares ?? Can I just send that to the Bengals now? This mock will be fun to look at 5 years from now. That's a haul right there. Send it in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMPHAR Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 My post FA thinking is....IF the Bengals thought 5,6,7 OTs were worthy of the 18th pick. They wouldn't have signed a FA tackle. There might be a couple OT names they'll consider at 18 but no way they are taking the 4th or 5th tackle off the board come draft day. Just some worthless thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 That may be the case AMPHAR and do not necessarily disagree with that line of thought. There are a couple of things I think about when looking at the OT position. Yes, the signed Trent Brown, but they only signed him to a 1 year deal and added him to the growing list (+30) of 2025 free agents. When looking at the trends of 1st round OT's struggling their first year, maybe a year of learning is what the Bengals want? When it comes to taking a lower ranked OT, I think it depends on whose evaluations and ratings we are talking about. Obviously, we have no idea about the only one that matters and that's the Bengals. That being said, when looking at mocks, I have consistently seen 8-9 OT names taken in the first round. Those names interchange and I'm not suggesting 9 OT's go in the first round, only what I have seen for a couple of months. For example, I personally think if JC Latham is on the board at #18, the Bengals would be foolish not to pick him at that spot. However, I have seen two outlets recently which have him rated as the 6th best OT in the draft behind Mims. Now, I don't agree with that thought, but we just never know. There's always a player, two, or more that drop for some reason. I can't wait to watch it unfold in 4 weeks though !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted March 22 Author Report Share Posted March 22 Dehner's first mock, from the Athletic. Big fan of 247! Round 1 (18): Taliese Fuaga, OT, Oregon Round 2 (49): Roman Wilson, WR, Michigan Round 3A (80): Mike Hall Jr., DT Ohio State Round 3B (97): Max Melton, CB, Rutgers Round 4 (115): Khristian Boyd, DT, Northern Iowa Round 5 (149): Tip Reiman, TE, Illinois Round 6A (194): Drake Nugent, C, Michigan Round 6B (214): Isaac Guerendo, RB, Louisville Round 7A (224): Nathaniel Watson, LB, Mississippi State Round 7B (247): Tory Taylor, P, Iowa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted March 22 Author Report Share Posted March 22 Bored. Went three rounds at pfn. Ignored trade offers. 18. Dallas Turner, edge, bama. Thus endth the Joseph Ossai era. 49. Sweat. Gotta plug up the middle s9 show. 80. Christian Mahogany, G, BC. A better Volson? 97. Kiran Amegadjie, OT, Yale. Has all the tools, but it’s a big step from the Ivy League. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 I like yours Hoosier and honestly think Sweat from Texas, despite his poor athleticism scores, is the big run stuffer they would be wanting. The one from Dehner ?? I pretty much hate. Fuaga is good. I have no problem with Roman Wilson, but we have 2-3 of him on the roster already. I'm a Buckeyes fan and watched all of their games and I don't like Hall. No. Melton would be ok depending on who else was on the board. The rest are throw away picks to me, minus maybe the punter from Iowa. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted March 22 Author Report Share Posted March 22 TBF Dehner did say he was looking more at position vs player, so this reflects how he thinks they will prioritize things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMPHAR Posted March 27 Report Share Posted March 27 On 3/22/2024 at 2:29 PM, HoosierCat said: Dehner's first mock, from the Athletic. Big fan of 247! Round 1 (18): Taliese Fuaga, OT, Oregon Round 2 (49): Roman Wilson, WR, Michigan Round 3A (80): Mike Hall Jr., DT Ohio State Round 3B (97): Max Melton, CB, Rutgers Round 4 (115): Khristian Boyd, DT, Northern Iowa Round 5 (149): Tip Reiman, TE, Illinois Round 6A (194): Drake Nugent, C, Michigan Round 6B (214): Isaac Guerendo, RB, Louisville Round 7A (224): Nathaniel Watson, LB, Mississippi State Round 7B (247): Tory Taylor, P, Iowa I would be happy with this. Without knowing who's on the board in the 1st/2nd rounds. Fuaga is my top OT hope IF they go that route. Wilson has serious speed and that would be a plus getting that in the 2nd. His numbers are probably reduced playing in Michigan's system. Melton the same with speed. Then two chances to get younger on the DT. Boyd seems like a better need fit right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted April 3 Author Report Share Posted April 3 I would take this draft in a heartbeat. Sadly I doubt half those guys are there when reality comes around. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/bengals-seven-round-2024-nfl-mock-draft-sees-jerry-rices-son-land-in-cincinnati-along-with-big-defensive-help/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted April 3 Author Report Share Posted April 3 Slow day again. Ended up at the PFN simulator. Silly as usual, but I'm sure TJ will approve: 18. JC Latham OT Alabama 49. Cooper Beebe OG Kansas State 80. Sedrick Van Pran-Granger OC Georgia 97. DeWayne Carter DT Duke 115. Maason Smith DT LSU 149. Jordan Jefferson DT LSU 194. Erick All TE Iowa 214. Edefuan Ulofoshio LB Washington 224. DeCamerion Richardson CB Mississippi State 237. Tory Taylor P Iowa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted April 4 Author Report Share Posted April 4 Okay, now for the most ridiculous mock ever. For this one, the rule was that any time a trade was proposed I had to take it (or pick one in the case of multiple offers). So I only picked when forced to, which meant I didn't select a player until the fourth round (and still got Sweat, lol). So here's Mike Brown's dream draft, 100% cheap rookies: 111. T'Vondre Sweat DT Texas 112. Jaden Hicks S Washington State 123. Cade Stover TE Ohio State 124. Maason Smith DT LSU 129. Jaylen Wright RB Tennessee 131. Cam Hart CB Notre Dame 132. Beaux Limmer OC Arkansas 135. Layden Robinson OG Texas A&M 150. Javon Baker WR UCF 157. Jonah Elliss EDGE Utah 167. Garret Greenfield OT South Dakota State 170. Tommy Eichenberg LB Ohio State 175. Gabe Hall DT Baylor 176. Isaac Guerendo RB Louisville 179. Caedan Wallace OT Penn State 182. Austin Reed QB Western Kentucky 199. Tory Taylor P Iowa 214. AJ Barner TE Michigan 215. Ainias Smith WR Texas A&M 224. DeCamerion Richardson CB Mississippi State 2025 SEA 1st 2025 DEN 2nd 2025 NYJ 2nd 2025 SEA 2nd 2025 BUF 3rd 2025 DEN 3rd 2025 HOU 3rd 2025 MIN 3rd 2025 NYJ 3rd 2025 HOU 4th 2025 MIN 4th 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted April 4 Report Share Posted April 4 21 hours ago, HoosierCat said: Slow day again. Ended up at the PFN simulator. Silly as usual, but I'm sure TJ will approve: 18. JC Latham OT Alabama 49. Cooper Beebe OG Kansas State 80. Sedrick Van Pran-Granger OC Georgia 97. DeWayne Carter DT Duke 115. Maason Smith DT LSU 149. Jordan Jefferson DT LSU 194. Erick All TE Iowa 214. Edefuan Ulofoshio LB Washington 224. DeCamerion Richardson CB Mississippi State 237. Tory Taylor P Iowa Love the first pick get a TE sooner get a developmental QB by round 5 2 DTs are sufficient, and both need to be NT/2I types Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMPHAR Posted April 5 Report Share Posted April 5 Quote I think it's a strong draft. Probably one of the better ones just positionally across the board. It's a deep draft, except maybe for a couple of positions. But I think it's probably one of the better drafts that I've been around where if you're in the top 25, you're getting a player you would normally get in the top 10. From Bengals.com Geoff convo with Bengals Director of Pro Scouting Steven Radicevic. Quote GH: You guys have been known to say the first round lasts for about 12 guys. This year, that's doubled? SR: Exactly. That's how I personally view it. I feel like you're going get a guy you have a legitimate first-round grade on rather than in years past, where if you were between 18-25, you're going to get a guy you've got a second-round grade on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMPHAR Posted April 5 Report Share Posted April 5 On 4/3/2024 at 10:53 AM, HoosierCat said: I would take this draft in a heartbeat. Sadly I doubt half those guys are there when reality comes around. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/bengals-seven-round-2024-nfl-mock-draft-sees-jerry-rices-son-land-in-cincinnati-along-with-big-defensive-help/ Yeah. 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted April 5 Report Share Posted April 5 I was all in on Newton, but that has changed drastically over the past month. I would however still like the pick if he was coupled with a big run stuffer like Sweat. Just not on his own. Not a fan of Rice personally. It would depend on what other WR's were still on the board. There are bound to be (what I believe) to be much better prospects than him in the 3rd. Love the Theo Johnson and Tory Taylor picks. Agree with taking a DE in the later rounds as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted April 5 Report Share Posted April 5 I have been playing around on the Draft Networks new mock draft where you can enter a room and draft against other people in real time. They have up to 10 people drafting for whatever team they choose and it's been a fun time killer. Had one this morning I liked the way it turned out. Traded down from #18 to #24 with Dallas, who selected OT Amarius Mims. In return, I picked up their 2nd rounder, #56. #24. Tyler Guyton, OT, Oklahoma (6'7, 322, RAS 9.72) - A true RT that doesn't need to start year one, but could. #49. Cooper Beebe, OG, Kansas St. (6'4, 322, RAS 9.27) - Experienced with starts at all o-line spots except center. PHYSICAL #56. Ja'Lynn Polk, WR, Washington (6'2, 204, RAS 8.83) - Dude should be ranked higher and would fit our offense. #80. Payton Wilson, LB, NC St. (6.3, 233, RAS 9.88) - Falls due to injury concerns and age, but is a steal here. Love him. #97. Maason Smith, DT, LSU (6'5, 306, RAS 8.38) - Big athletic run stuffer. Fits in the rotation and provides solid depth. #115. Theo Johnson, TE, Penn St. (6'6, 2.59, RAS 9.93) - I really like this kid and think he should go higher as well. #149. Elijah Jones, CB, Boston College (6'1, 185, RAS 8.93) - Another player I really like. I like the attitude and physicality. Traded up from #194 to #177 with Minnesota and gave up a 2025 6th round pick. #177. Isaac Guerendo, RB, Louisville (6'0, 221, RAS 9.9) - I don't really care for our RB depth and another kid I like a lot. #214. Myles Cole, DE, Texas Tech (6'6, 278, RAS 9.93) - The late round DE I had mention earlier. BIG TALL kid. #224. Ryan Watts, S, Texas (6'2, 208, RAS 9.11) - Move from CB to safety and always in need of special teams guys. #237. Tory Taylor, P, Iowa (6'3, 229, RAS ---) - Do I need to explain? That's it, my final mock based on what I would love to see the team do in 3 weeks. Can't wait to see who they actually add to the team !! Christmas in April !! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted April 5 Author Report Share Posted April 5 Yeah, I like Guyton as well. Definitely into a trade down scenario like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted April 5 Report Share Posted April 5 Dont want Mims at all in any round Frequently injured which has in turn led to lack of experience. Best ability is availability If he were to somehow fall to round 5 or so due to no team wanting such an injury prone player, then sure, take a flyer I dont like Guyton for pretty much the same reason. Gimme a guy who is available every week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted April 5 Report Share Posted April 5 I would have considered Joe Milton from Tennessee, but he came off the board. Honestly though, it wouldn't surprise me to see them simply bring in an UDFA to fill the 3rd spot, so no harm really. My trend throughout was athletic guys that seem to really love the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted April 17 Author Report Share Posted April 17 So I did a quick three rounder on pff with the rule that I had to take BPA, regardless of position. The result: 18. CB Cooper DeJean (8) 49. WR Troy Franklin (29) 80. LB Junior Colson (71) 97. DE Javon Solomon (91) The number after each name is where they were ranked on pff's big board. Surprisingly, I don't hate it. DeJean and Franklin are both fantastic talents and absolute steals at 18 and 29, respectively. Colson is a three-down LB with elite coverage skills. Yeah, yeah, I know we have Wilson and Pratt and they both looked like shit last year. Solmon would need time to bulk up a bit but he's a situational sack machine and the way our DE room always seems to get hit with injuries we can't have too many pass rushers. Notably, restricting myself to taking to top player regardless of position didn't require passing on any needs. There were never any OTs to be had without making major reaches (best in the first would have been Mims). Only time there was a DT available was the first (both Murphy and Newton). Mostly it was edge rushers, LBs and safeties that seemed to cluster around Cincy's picks. IF this bears any resemblance to the real thing I would think there would be some opportunities to trade around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 Interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted April 18 Author Report Share Posted April 18 What’s frustrating is that the picture I’m starting to see (and hopefully my vision is far from 20/20 in this instance) is one where the Bengals are going to miss out on a top OT prospect that they badly need because they won a meaningless game against Cleveland’s scrubs in week 18 last season, so they are picking four slots lower than they would have with a loss. I can’t blame them, I get it, no one wants to lose and tanking to end the season would have presented its own issues. But still, this sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted April 18 Report Share Posted April 18 Tanking was the answer when Burrow went down. I will admit that there was some enjoyment in seeing them win some games, but this is the price. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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