Bengals v Ravens (merged)

[Stripes]

Carson Palmer is a average QB. He is very similar to Matt Cassell.

[HoosierCat]

Well thank the high effin' heavens for YOU then. I had been wondering just what the f**k was wrong with the Bengals, and now I know. It is that message board denizens are not putting sufficient pressure on the Bengals to be good with our typing and what not. But not YOU, message board warrior. YOU REFUSE TO ACCEPT MEDIOCRITY, and if only all other would join you in your message board crusade, well, then we would be getting somewhere.

I think there's a Budweiser "Real Men of Genius" commercial in here somewhere...

Bud Light presents...Real Men of Genius

Mister Refusing to Accept Mediocrity Message Board Warrior.

Here's to you, Mister Refusing to Accept Mediocrity Message Board Warrior. With your smilie icons on and your spellcheck off, you roam the wild forums of the internet to make sure that your team knows .500 is the same as .000

Math isn't your strong suit.

Yes, here's to you, Mister Refusing to Accept Mediocrity Message Board Warrior. Only you can see the players on your team who really stink. Only you can call the plays that will win a championship. And only you realize that every other fan of your team is a moron.

Why am I the only smart one?

So pop open a cold Bud Light, Oh Quarterback of the Keyboard, because when it comes to mediocrity, your choice of beer shows what you will and won't accept.

Hey wait this tastes like horse pee.

Mister Refusing to Accept Mediocrity Message Board Warrior.

Budweiser. St. Louis, Missouri.

[TJJackson]

And please someone IP ban Joe Pong. His act is getting very tired.

They don't ipban you based on simple (or even phenomenal) stupidity here, or Joe Wrong (and several others like WhurChadAt, Pushy, and Agreen/Gizzle)) would have been gone long long ago

[Whur CHad At?]

Well thank the high effin' heavens for YOU then. I had been wondering just what the f**k was wrong with the Bengals, and now I know. It is that message board denizens are not putting sufficient pressure on the Bengals to be good with our typing and what not. But not YOU, message board warrior. YOU REFUSE TO ACCEPT MEDIOCRITY, and if only all other would join you in your message board crusade, well, then we would be getting somewhere.

I think there's a Budweiser "Real Men of Genius" commercial in here somewhere...

Bud Light presents...Real Men of Genius

Mister Refusing to Accept Mediocrity Message Board Warrior.

Here's to you, Mister Refusing to Accept Mediocrity Message Board Warrior. With your smilie icons on and your spellcheck off, you roam the wild forums of the internet to make sure that your team knows .500 is the same as .000

Math isn't your strong suit.

Yes, here's to you, Mister Refusing to Accept Mediocrity Message Board Warrior. Only you can see the players on your team who really stink. Only you can call the plays that will win a championship. And only you realize that every other fan of your team is a moron.

Why am I the only smart one?

So pop open a cold Bud Light, Oh Quarterback of the Keyboard, because when it comes to mediocrity, your choice of beer shows what you will and won't accept.

Hey wait this tastes like horse pee.

Mister Refusing to Accept Mediocrity Message Board Warrior.

Budweiser. St. Louis, Missouri.

HAHAHA

[COB]

Well thank the high effin' heavens for YOU then. I had been wondering just what the f**k was wrong with the Bengals, and now I know. It is that message board denizens are not putting sufficient pressure on the Bengals to be good with our typing and what not. But not YOU, message board warrior. YOU REFUSE TO ACCEPT MEDIOCRITY, and if only all other would join you in your message board crusade, well, then we would be getting somewhere.

I think there's a Budweiser "Real Men of Genius" commercial in here somewhere...

Bud Light presents...Real Men of Genius

Mister Refusing to Accept Mediocrity Message Board Warrior.

Here's to you, Mister Refusing to Accept Mediocrity Message Board Warrior. With your smilie icons on and your spellcheck off, you roam the wild forums of the internet to make sure that your team knows .500 is the same as .000

Math isn't your strong suit.

Yes, here's to you, Mister Refusing to Accept Mediocrity Message Board Warrior. Only you can see the players on your team who really stink. Only you can call the plays that will win a championship. And only you realize that every other fan of your team is a moron.

Why am I the only smart one?

So pop open a cold Bud Light, Oh Quarterback of the Keyboard, because when it comes to mediocrity, your choice of beer shows what you will and won't accept.

Hey wait this tastes like horse pee.

Mister Refusing to Accept Mediocrity Message Board Warrior.

Budweiser. St. Louis, Missouri.

I laughed out loud at this. It seems real, like it could be the real ad.

[ArmyBengal]

Thank you for that Hoosier !!!

[jjakq27]

Greeny is the dumbest radio personality on ESPN. The guy knows nothing about sports. Listen to Colin Cowherd if you want to be enlightend

hahahahaha. Stop it. The same Cowherd who said Joey Votto wasn't an all-star?

He also said the Reds were a fraud.

Well, he is right. A great regular season team, but won't win a game in the playoffs.

Look at their record agaisnt GOOD teams. I would say he was right.

They played the same teams as everyone else.

I have no great expectations for the playoffs but should they win the division they will be one of the top 4 teams in the NL. Under that criteria I think they are hardly a fraud.

[MOBengal]

Carson Palmer is a average QB. He is very similar to Matt Cassell. Watch him and then watch other QB's and you'll see the seperation in skill. He's declining, but you and the other apologist's refuse to put pressure on him. Everything he does you have to find an excuse for and I am TIRED of it.

Chad is one of if not, the best route runner in football. He is still elite. He works really hard, and plays hard. Chad is one of the BIG reasons we are we we are today.

Colin Cowherd is right on almost everything. Listen to his predictions, he is really never wrong. I hope he is about the Reds, but lets face it, he ISN'T.

KATIE BLACKBURN IS SEXY

I make plenty of sense. It's apologists like you who refuse to put pressure on this team and will accept the status quo. You will continue to accept mediocrity and I REFUSE TO.

I'm new to the board, so I don't know the history of posts by everyone and everyone's point of view (and it sounds like you have been named the "I won't accept mediocrity" guy). And while I don't agree with everything you have to say, I do agree with you somewhat on your point about Carson. I have always been a fan of Carson and feel that he did some great things his first couple years. I have one Bengals jersey... it's a Palmer #9. But, I do feel that Carson is slipping into being a very average QB in the NFL. He is not an elite quarterback in the league. If I had to choose a QB to have the ball in the final minutes of a game, I can't say that Carson would be in the top 5.

That being said, with the weapons we have, I don't think we need an elite quarterback to do some good things.

On your other points:

-Chad is still an elite receiver, but I feel he could be much better than he is.

-Colin Cowherd if very entertaining, but I'm not so sure he's the genius you're making him out to be

-And not really with you on the Katie Blackburn thing either.

[Stripes]

Think Carson is average all you want, but Matt Cassell?

[bwillycuse]

When Cowherds voice makes its first noise on my radio, I immediately change the channel. I flip to the Dan Patrick show.

Cowherd has admitted to just trying to get people riled up, that's how you get ratings supposedly.At least Greenburg is a fan talking on the radio. Cowherd is just an elitist prick.

Years ago I couldn't stand the guy but Rome is actually pretty tolerable leading up to Mcallister.

Whur Chad seems a little off with that Reds prediction of not winning a game in playoffs - Maybe him and Syd shared a little too many doses.

Love Syd though.

[DC_Bengals_Fan]

I think there's a Budweiser "Real Men of Genius" commercial in here somewhere...

Mister Refusing to Accept Mediocrity Message Board Warrior.

Very nicely done! A tall glass of a mediocre domestic light beer to you, sir.

[Stripes]

Frankly I could very well see the Reds not winning any games in the playoffs. That doesn't mean they're a "fraud" though. Garbage logic by a garbage radio host.

[membengal]

Hoosier, thanks for completing the thought. That ad campaign was what was running through my head as I named him. I just didn't follow through.

That was perfect.

[ArmyBengal]

I can readily admit that Cowherd is on point with some of his comments and at times, I will listen. Other times, he blatantly stirs the pot for ratings and to create conversation and controvery. THAT is the part of his thing I'm not a fan of.

Could the Reds get swept in their first playoff series ?? Sure they could, but so could ANY team that makes it to the playoffs. Where is his disdain for the Cardinals, the biggest fraud of the 2010 season ?? They were not only picked to win the NL Central, but by a large margin and the only people thinking the Reds were going to have a winning season, were Reds fans. Even I only saw an outside chance of a wild card. Bottomline is, while the Reds may not fare well against all the winning teams, they beat the teams they SHOULD beat. There are MANY teams that can't say the same, so save that sh*t.

Once again, there are times I listen to Cowherd, but if I were only given three words to describe him, they would be:

Whiny, nasally, b*tch

[Sea Ray]

Well, he is right. A great regular season team, but won't win a game in the playoffs.

Look at their record agaisnt GOOD teams. I would say he was right.

Is that the definition of a fraud? When he originally started this nonsense his point was that the Cardinals were legitimate and the Reds are a fraud. Which team looks like the fraud now?

Being the weasel he is, he's now changed his tune from that to saying the Reds won't do much in the playoffs. Specifically he compared them to the Yankees. He said "Now there's a team built for the playoffs" and he proceeded to compare the two.

Sure, the Reds do not compare to $200mill payroll teams. Is that news?

[Sea Ray]

According to this article in today's paper by Bengals beat writer Joe Reedy, the running game is the key to beating the Ravens:

With Baltimore coming to Cincinnati this Sunday for an important AFC North contest, the Bengals need to rediscover one aspect of their offense that worked well last year - especially in their two wins over the Ravens.

In the Bengals' season sweep, Cedric Benson put up a pair of 100-yard games, becoming the first running back to do that in two straight games against Baltimore since the Miami Dolphins' Ricky Williams in 2002 and 2003. Benson achieved the feat in the same season, becoming the first player to do that since Pittsburgh's Jerome Bettis in 1997.

/>http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20100914/SPT02/9150358/1066/Running-road-to-success-vs-Ravens

I disagree with him. I think the running game plays right into Baltimore's strengths. I think we should exploit their weakness and fill the air with footballs. Now I think it's a good thing that Benson gets 100 yards and all but I think he best get them in the 2nd half as we're protecting the lead our passing game achieved for us. In other words, I think the passing game needs to setup the run. I think Reedy is all washed up on this one. He's forgetting that the rosters have changed since last year and the Ravens secondary is weaker and our passing game is stronger.

What do you folks think?

[HairOnFire]

Hoosier, thanks for completing the thought. That ad campaign was what was running through my head as I named him. I just didn't follow through.

That was perfect.

Agreed.

And if anyone is interested in a sequel may I suggest Whur Chad At be depicted as the most interesting man in the world?

[HairOnFire]

I think the running game plays right into Baltimore's strengths.

So what? Isn't running the football supposed to be a Bengal strength? And isn't Cedric Benson one of the best and most consistent offensive performers on the roster?

I think we should exploit their weakness and fill the air with footballs.

Here's what I think I know. If Cedric Benson gets just 15 carries against the Ravens this team will not only lose, but be physically manhandled on nearly every play in exactly the same way as they were against New England. As for the idea of filling the air with footballs, yeah....to a point. Because the Bengals can threaten Baltimore in ways the checkdown Jets couldn't, and that's a huge consideration....especially on 3rd down. But unless the Bengals defense is as inept against the Ravens as against the Patriots there's no way I'd willingly abandon the very things that allowed Cincy to dominate this matchup in the past. Instead, I'd make getting my mojo back by running the ball a priority, and I don't care how difficult that task might be. Simply put, this team NEEDS to get it's collective nuts back, and you do that by running the ball and playing defense.

I Now I think it's a good thing that Benson gets 100 yards and all but I think he best get them in the 2nd half as we're protecting the lead our passing game achieved for us. In other words, I think the passing game needs to setup the run.

I think the above perfectly sums up the typical Bengal fan overwhelming preference for a style of offensive football that is more entertaining, more explosive, and sadly.....more erratic. For just one recent example, last weeks 1st half bust followed immediately by a 2nd half boom....a wild mood swing that has prompted many to forget how the Bengals were never really in the game from start to finish.

I can't speak for Reedy, but I've spent countless hours yammering about this stuff and what concerns me most this morning is a nagging suspicion that the Bengals have willingly abandoned the mindset that brought about a division championship last season in favor of a style of attack they simply prefer to play. That they've abandoned Smashball in favor of gameplanning that now dictates 3rd down and 2 to go is a passing down, as witnessed twice in the 1st Quarter against the Patriots.

Run the f**king ball.

[redsbengalsbucks]

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Run the f**king ball.

I couldnt agree more!

[Sea Ray]

Here's what I think I know. If Cedric Benson gets just 15 carries against the Ravens this team will not only lose, but be physically manhandled on nearly every play in exactly the same way as they were against New England. As for the idea of filling the air with footballs, yeah....to a point. Because the Bengals can threaten Baltimore in ways the checkdown Jets couldn't, and that's a huge consideration....especially on 3rd down. But unless the Bengals defense is as inept against the Ravens as against the Patriots there's no way I'd willingly abandon the very things that allowed Cincy to dominate this matchup in the past. Instead, I'd make getting my mojo back by running the ball a priority, and I don't care how difficult that task might be. Simply put, this team NEEDS to get it's collective nuts back, and you do that by running the ball and playing defense.

I Now I think it's a good thing that Benson gets 100 yards and all but I think he best get them in the 2nd half as we're protecting the lead our passing game achieved for us. In other words, I think the passing game needs to setup the run.

I think the above perfectly sums up the typical Bengal fan overwhelming preference for a style of offensive football that is more entertaining, more explosive, and sadly.....more erratic. For just one recent example, last weeks 1st half bust followed immediately by a 2nd half boom....a wild mood swing that has prompted many to forget how the Bengals were never really in the game from start to finish.

I can't speak for Reedy, but I've spent countless hours yammering about this stuff and what concerns me most this morning is a nagging suspicion that the Bengals have willingly abandoned the mindset that brought about a division championship last season in favor of a style of attack they simply prefer to play. That they've abandoned Smashball in favor of gameplanning that now dictates 3rd down and 2 to go is a passing down, as witnessed twice in the 1st Quarter against the Patriots.

Run the f**king ball.

I want to smash them in the mouth too, just in a different order. I want them to come out in 3 WR sets and open up the field. Then, after establishing our downfield weapons, start pounding Benson and Co.

It's not just a matter of carries. If Benson carries 15 times for 40 yards, we're not in good shape. In the beginning of the game the Ravens will be rested and eager to stop the run.

I've made my point very clear that I think the Patriots game was an ass whooping and I'm not impressed with what happened after we were down 31-3.

[Wraith]

I just LOVE it when Cowherd starts talking about Finance or Business and says things like "Don't take the Burger King CEO job because they are setting you up to get fired." Of course every CEO gets fired or "replaced" eventually but then they cut you a $40 million golden parachute, and then you can pull a 7 figure consulting job for being a former Fortune 500 CEO, so no of course you don't want that job....

He doesn't know sports and when he gets called on it he deviates to talking about other things, then he uses the same sloppy logic on those subjects hoping that he won't get called on that too.

He makes my hair hurt.

[walzav29]

Don't get me wrong. New England killed us, BUT I don't think the Ravens are the end all be all of football dominance. This week is so annoying. The media annointed the Jets and Ravens as the best teams in the AFC. When the horrible fluke Bengals lost to the horrible New England Patriots, and the Ravens beat the almight Jets. Then I have to hear all week how Cincy will get killed. I think the Bengals will win by more than 2 touchdowns. Losing to NE on the road isn't the most embarassing thing that could happen.

[bwillycuse]

Don't get me wrong. New England killed us, BUT I don't think the Ravens are the end all be all of football dominance. This week is so annoying. The media annointed the Jets and Ravens as the best teams in the AFC. When the horrible fluke Bengals lost to the horrible New England Patriots, and the Ravens beat the almight Jets. Then I have to hear all week how Cincy will get killed. I think the Bengals will win by more than 2 touchdowns. Losing to NE on the road isn't the most embarassing thing that could happen.

Yeah, its too small a sample size.

Are we a home dog this week?

Just need to take care of business and improve on last Sunday. Being at home will inject the adrenaline, and I expect a lot of hard hitting.

The Ravens will be a little spent from the hard battle on Monday night.

I agree the Pats loss isnt that bad. I envisioned a 1-1 start anyway.

This Sunday is a big game for confidence sake. I think we bring it and win by 7-10.

I just tried to buy some tickets on Bengals.com(ticketmaster) and the only had single tickets available, so it seems it would have to be a sellout. (Better be for home opener)

[COB]

That they've abandoned Smashball..

My fear exactly. They came out against New England heaving the ball to Owens. Why? I have no idea why. Since 2005 the only real success they've had was last year when they finally abandoned the Carson/Chad/Housh show. Then they come out this year and go right back to it. Frustrating.

Don't believe all this "NFL is a passing league, running doesn't win anymore."

Running the right way still wins. It sets up the pass. Smashmouth football will never die.

[jjakq27]

Twitter War has begun for the week

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