3rd Round #1: Jordan Shipley

[HairOnFire]

Merged the Shipley love fest

You can't stop a Shipley lovefest. You can only hope to contain it.

My original thoughts on Shipley were they were bringing in another slot receiver when I didn't really think they needed to.

Apparently it was never a question of need. Rather, it was a question of want. And if early returns are believable the question was answered emphatically, brilliantly, and yet.....more than a little stupidly.

Simpson, while improving, might be to little to late.

I keep hearing this and the first thing that ALWAYS pop into my head is why should it matter if J'Rome wasn't built in a day?

[BengalByTheBay]

Simpson, while improving, might be to little to late.

I keep hearing this and the first thing that ALWAYS pop into my head is why should it matter if J'Rome wasn't built in a day?

That's clever -- props.

My thought was, if he's getting it now, why would it be too late? After all, it is now...right now, and the split wide receiver situation gets bad next year, right? In any event, does anyone really believe the Bengals won't draft a WR early next year anyway?

[ArmyBengal]

Simpson, while improving, might be to little to late.

I keep hearing this and the first thing that ALWAYS pop into my head is why should it matter if J'Rome wasn't built in a day?

I didn't create the logjam at the WR spot and only looking at the numbers and lack of faith continuing to be shown Simpson.

You said it yourself in not seeing him until the 3rd quarter of the game yesterday.

I think some of that is the need for developing timing with the starters, but at what cost does that timing come when two of the starting WR's may not be with the team next season ??

I'm still rooting for Simpson though...

[HairOnFire]

Simpson, while improving, might be to little to late.

I keep hearing this and the first thing that ALWAYS pop into my head is why should it matter if J'Rome wasn't built in a day?

That's clever -- props.

Sometimes I get lucky.

My thought was, if he's getting it now, why would it be too late? After all, it is now...right now, and the split wide receiver situation gets bad next year, right?

Now, later, whatever....I want THAT. I want the burst off of the snap, I want the downfield speed, I want the playmaking ability, and I want the youth perhaps most of all. And before I dismiss all that I need to hear why there's no roster spot available for a WR who lined up last night on the left, on the right, and even once in the slot.

In any event, does anyone really believe the Bengals won't draft a WR early next year anyway?

Well, now you're just trying to make me mad.

[Kazkal]

You can't stop a Shipley lovefest. You can only hope to contain it.

Wrong,You can't stop it you can't contain it you can only join in

PS,I hope Simpson does work out because then we have a nice young WR Core with him,Shipley & Caldwell

[BengalByTheBay]

In any event, does anyone really believe the Bengals won't draft a WR early next year anyway?

Well, now you're just trying to make me mad.

Not really -- your beef is with the dude in the porkpie hat (or maybe his well-groomed daughter in the waders). I say that only because, in your heart, you know it to be true.

[walzav29]

I keep telling myself it's preseason, but the guy just seems to have the "it" factor that the others don't have. (Not talking about Chad or T.O.) The question is. Who are they going to keep?

[johnswahoo]

For my part... I'll be pissed if Simpson gets cut (especially if it's in favor of Matt Jones), but Simpson is still picture of the future, while Shipley fits right now.

[HoosierCat]

Antonio Bryant may be on the way out, too.

[Stripes]

Antonio Bryant may be on the way out, too.

Perhaps foolishly, I'd be relieved. Even when I thought he'd be healthy enough to play, I wondered whether he'd be any better a fit than Coles was.

[volcom69]

Antonio Bryant may be on the way out, too.

This whole thing makes me wonder what is really going on here. Reedy alittle while ago said he thinks he will go on the IR. This team is looking good at WR, and i would love to see what Bryant brings to the team, but who knows how hurt he really is.

[Trevor]

Antonio Bryant may be on the way out, too.

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaa??????????????

[HairOnFire]

I keep telling myself it's preseason, but the guy just seems to have the "it" factor that the others don't have.

It's easier to impress when the team is setting the table for you. Shipley was given his job on draft day, has been running with the starters from day one of practice, has gotten heavy attention from coaches, and it strongly appears he's being featured in preseason in an attempt to accelerate his developement.

I don't mind.

Rather, I mind when the Bengals draft players they don't use.

Which brings us around to the player most directly impacted by the addition of Shipley so far.

And that ain't Quan.

It's Caldwell, Marvin's so called most improved player.

So far, an afterthought.

[HoosierCat]

Antonio Bryant may be on the way out, too.

This whole thing makes me wonder what is really going on here. Reedy alittle while ago said he thinks he will go on the IR. This team is looking good at WR, and i would love to see what Bryant brings to the team, but who knows how hurt he really is.

I'm kind of at a loss myself, too. I can only guess it will come down to whether they think more time will help. If so, stick him on IR and revisit him next spring. But if the knee isn't likely to improve (and previous talk of "bone on bone" issues by Hobson doesn't sound promising) then its time to move on, as embarrassing as that might be to the team.

But at this point I am increasingly reluctant to keep Bryant on the active roster if it means cutting Cosby or Caldwell or even Simpson.

[BengalszoneBilly]

I'm sure flushing ten million in guaranteed money to Bryant down the shi**er isn't setting well with Mike Brown.

[HairOnFire]

“I’m feeling better, but I really don’t have much to say,” Bryant said. “I’m just trying to be forgotten. It’s hard to forget $7 million. It will be worth it. As soon as I put my feet on the ground, it will be more than worth it.”

The first time I read the above it felt like Bryant was dropping bomb-sized hints about being placed on IR.

Now I wonder if that isn't the best case scenario.

[HairOnFire]

I'm sure flushing ten million in guaranteed money to Bryant down the shi**er isn't setting well with Mike Brown.

Ain't no thing.

Back in the day he paid nearly as much for Carl Picken's last season in stripes, and got almost as little in return.

[ArmyBengal]

He's already guaranteed the money and he's under contract. Can someone tell me why they wouldn't simply put him on the IR and give him the year they already paid for to heal up and see if they can get a return on their investment ?? I mean it's not like it would cost them a single cent more and they wouldn't let him simply heal up and pick where he wants to play next season.

If the thought is he won't be playing anywhere at all anymore, then there is an issue with how the hell did he end up here to begin with and why was he allowed to take the field to practice at the start of camp ?? It simply doesn't make sense to release him.

[volcom69]

Antonio Bryant may be on the way out, too.

This whole thing makes me wonder what is really going on here. Reedy alittle while ago said he thinks he will go on the IR. This team is looking good at WR, and i would love to see what Bryant brings to the team, but who knows how hurt he really is.

I'm kind of at a loss myself, too. I can only guess it will come down to whether they think more time will help. If so, stick him on IR and revisit him next spring. But if the knee isn't likely to improve (and previous talk of "bone on bone" issues by Hobson doesn't sound promising) then its time to move on, as embarrassing as that might be to the team.

But at this point I am increasingly reluctant to keep Bryant on the active roster if it means cutting Cosby or Caldwell or even Simpson.

If he is not ready before the first game then the best thing to do is IR him, and let one of the young WR play and show what they got. Its crazy to leave him on the team day after day not knowing when hes able to come back.

What confuses me how the heck did he even pass the physical before coming in? If its that bad why would they even let him practice and not put him on the pup list? Many things here just dont make sense.

[walzav29]

Well I'm happy that they signed T.O. This was a big mistake, but it on't hurts Brown because there is no salary cap. The great thing is they signed T.O. instead of just hoping that Bryant would magically heal. The guy who did the physical has some 'splainin to do. But, good luck to Bryant. We seem ok. As for Caldwell he just can't get open. Shipley knows the sweet spots.

[Kazkal]

Maybe Mike Brown is hoping once they cut him they can try and go after the money,I just don't see the point of cutting him this year IR him give him a chance before any money is payed next but why cut him if you gain nothing?

[ArmyBengal]

So no one can give a good answer for simply cutting Bryant. Thanks, that's what I thought.

[HoosierCat]

Bryant still gets paid on IR. From what I understand the team isn't responsible for all his salary, he gets a reduced amount, but it still costs to keep him on. If they don't believe there is any hope he will play again, then there's no sense paying.

Also, Reedy tweeted tonight that to date, Bryant has made "only" $6.7 million, and his guarantees were said to be upward of $10 million. So an injury settlement might save money there too. Or maybe not, I dunno.

[ArmyBengal]

Bryant still gets paid on IR. From what I understand the team isn't responsible for all his salary, he gets a reduced amount, but it still costs to keep him on. If they don't believe there is any hope he will play again, then there's no sense paying.

Also, Reedy tweeted tonight that to date, Bryant has made "only" $6.7 million, and his guarantees were said to be upward of $10 million. So an injury settlement might save money there too. Or maybe not, I dunno.

Yeah, I saw a number that the Bengals would save by cutting Bryant at about 1.77 million.

That being the case, when you've already spent 6.7 would the 1.77 be wisely spent on resigning another player ??

If that 1.77 were the be all and end all of getting a deal done with JJoe, I'd say hell yeah, but I'm thinking that 1.77 isn't going to make a difference and they stand to gain far more at a position of question if Bryant can fully heal on IR. Simply put, paying another 1.77 for a healthy Bryant would be money well spent in my opinion when looking at the future of the WR position.

[Willian Watson]

Anyway, JORDAN SHIPLEY is a not bad player