Kenny Irons done as a Bengal

[Tee]

Irons waived again

Monday, August 4, 2008, 01:58 PM EST [bengals]

RB Kenny Irons was waived by the Bengals from the Reserve/Physically Unable to Perform list.

This one appears to be the end of the Irons era with the Bengals.

Whoa....Guess they didn't like the video.....ERRRR ugh.....James Johnson is doing Great at RB so no need for Irons!!!

[Tee]

Irons waived again

By GEOFF HOBSON

August 4, 2008

Posted: 1:50 p.m.

The Bengals officially severed ties with running back Kenny Irons on Monday when they waived him off injured reserve. Irons has had complications stemming from reconstructive knee surgey with his Bengals career consisting of just preseason carries before he tore his anterior cruciate ligament.

http://www.bengals.com/news/news.asp?story_id=6922

[HoosierCat]

Whoa....Guess they didn't like the video.

More likely his knee was just shot.

This is why guys like Rivers hold out for all they can get. You never know which snap will be your last.

[COB]

Damn. The Bengals seem to have adopted a perform or you're out the door attitude. Finally.

[DC_Bengals_Fan]

Whoa....Guess they didn't like the video.

More likely his knee was just shot.

This is why guys like Rivers hold out for all they can get. You never know which snap will be your last.

I was on board with that stance until it's started coming out that Rivers' agent is holding out to be the last one signed just to advertise his "hard nose" stance. If that's the case, screw him.

[HairOnFire]

Waived again, huh?

Well, so much for Hoosier's earlier rant about it all being nothing more than a case of clever roster manipulation easing the current numbers crunch.

Different day, different topic, same results.

[GregCook]

Whoa....Guess they didn't like the video.

More likely his knee was just shot.

This is why guys like Rivers hold out for all they can get. You never know which snap will be your last.

I was on board with that stance until it's started coming out that Rivers' agent is holding out to be the last one signed just to advertise his "hard nose" stance. If that's the case, screw him.

Well Iron's thing is what all pro athletes fear. Irons was a fool if he didn't bargain using all the leverage available to him as a 2ed rnd pick. Rivers should too. I know if I was blessed with their freak of nature physical gifts, and I was a #9 pick in the draft, I'd care less about the holdout, it would be all about getting the best possible contract. Look at Pollack, now Irons or Peter Warrick. I feel for Irons, the guy is probably crushed that everything he's done for the last 6 years is down the tubes.

[gregstephens]

Irons waived again

Monday, August 4, 2008, 01:58 PM EST [bengals]

RB Kenny Irons was waived by the Bengals from the Reserve/Physically Unable to Perform list.

This one appears to be the end of the Irons era with the Bengals.

Whoa....Guess they didn't like the video.....ERRRR ugh.....James Johnson is doing Great at RB so no need for Irons!!!

James Johnson, or James Brooks, it doesn't matter now. Irons wasn't going to play this season and may never play again. Back to the drawing board, because I'm not liking what I see out of Perry.

[Ox]

because I'm not liking what I see out of Perry.

Seriously Greg, what amount of Perry have you seen to actually dislike? The dude has seemingly carried more this preseason than all the other years combined.

[HAPPYJAQ]

Makes me wonder why they brought him back the first time after he was waived, to just waive him again. They must have discovered something else wrong with him, or had doubts about his long-term prospects. I guess we'll have to see if another team takes a chance on him. I just hope he isn't another Terry Allen; a player given up for dead because of injuries who ends up being one of the top rushers in league history.

[gregstephens]

because I'm not liking what I see out of Perry.

Seriously Greg, what amount of Perry have you seen to actually dislike? The dude has seemingly carried more this preseason than all the other years combined.

I saw him at the scrimmage not being able to rattle off more than two or three yards from the line of scrimmage against the second and third string of OUR defense. He's bigger and slower than he was and will not add much more to the Bengals running game than Rudi, Kenny, etc. He made a couple of nice catches for about eight/nine yards each, but that was it. That is the amount of Perry I have seen. You will counterargue that Perry is blowing off two years of rust in not playing. Yes he is. Guess what? That doesn't help the running game now, and we need it now. We don't have the luxury of being able to see if he can return to form by midseason. Of course, it doesn't matter, does it? We are stuck with a running game that will not support the pass game, resulting in an offense that will not be able to outshoot other teams, which we will need because the defense will still be sub-par.

[HAPPYJAQ]

because I'm not liking what I see out of Perry.

Seriously Greg, what amount of Perry have you seen to actually dislike? The dude has seemingly carried more this preseason than all the other years combined.

I saw him at the scrimmage not being able to rattle off more than two or three yards from the line of scrimmage against the second and third string of OUR defense. He's bigger and slower than he was and will not add much more to the Bengals running game than Rudi, Kenny, etc. He made a couple of nice catches for about eight/nine yards each, but that was it. That is the amount of Perry I have seen. You will counterargue that Perry is blowing off two years of rust in not playing. Yes he is. Guess what? That doesn't help the running game now, and we need it now. We don't have the luxury of being able to see if he can return to form by midseason. Of course, it doesn't matter, does it? We are stuck with a running game that will not support the pass game, resulting in an offense that will not be able to outshoot other teams, which we will need because the defense will still be sub-par.

To me, even if Perry is not the back he once was, he should be good enough to offer a change of pace on what seems to be a recomitted Rudi J. Carson says he'll catch more than the 51 balls he caught in '05 (of healthy), which says something about how much he trusts/likes Perry. More two TE sets and another year of the OL jelling should yield better consistency in the run game. FB is a question mark, but it looks like the Bengals will not utilize the FB position much again this year. The defense is more talented and has a better DC calling the game, so that should be an improvement there. I'm still very optimistic about the season and see this being a good year; maybe not '05 but not '07, either.

[commish118]

Palmer had the same sergury and was playing in 6 months. Now it is a little different for a running back, but obviously they were not seeing the effort they needed to out of Irons. We stuck with Perry this entire time, obviosly because he has continued to work hard. We dropped Thurman because he wasn't will to put in the work. This sounds like another clear message to this team: work hard or walk! I like it!

[HAPPYJAQ]

So whatever happened to Shaun Alexander? Did he retire or is he waiting for the Bengals to come crawling back?? I hope it never comes to that, but it's a shame that he's fallen off so quickly.

[TippCityRick]

James Johnson, or James Brooks, it doesn't matter now. Irons wasn't going to play this season and may never play again. Back to the drawing board, because I'm not liking what I see out of Perry.

I was at camp yesterday and Perry looked great to me. He's making one cut and heading up field. We'll see if it carries forward to when real bullets are flying, but he looked like he could carry the load yesterday.

[Adam-Whodey]

i was there too i liked what i saw from perry but due to his history im skeptical still.... i think our running game is only gonna go as far as rudi can take us. lets hope he returns to form

[TippCityRick]

Oh, no doubt about the injury history. I'm just saying he looked quick to my eye.

And our running game will go as far as our line's health takes us. Doesn't matter who the back is. If there ain't no hole, there ain't no running game and our line looks great. Did you see the tackle eligible to Andrews last night? I've been down on him as a run blocker, but he's got great hands!!

[ShulaSteakhouse]

because I'm not liking what I see out of Perry.

Seriously Greg, what amount of Perry have you seen to actually dislike? The dude has seemingly carried more this preseason than all the other years combined.

I saw him at the scrimmage not being able to rattle off more than two or three yards from the line of scrimmage against the second and third string of OUR defense. He's bigger and slower than he was and will not add much more to the Bengals running game than Rudi, Kenny, etc. He made a couple of nice catches for about eight/nine yards each, but that was it. That is the amount of Perry I have seen. You will counterargue that Perry is blowing off two years of rust in not playing. Yes he is. Guess what? That doesn't help the running game now, and we need it now. We don't have the luxury of being able to see if he can return to form by midseason. Of course, it doesn't matter, does it? We are stuck with a running game that will not support the pass game, resulting in an offense that will not be able to outshoot other teams, which we will need because the defense will still be sub-par.

I agree that is the concern, and feel the same about Perry. Great for an occassional pass out of the backfield, but not much else.

As for Irons he did himself in by not working hard enough in rehab, preferring to party and have pictures taken of him in his girlfriend's cheerleading uniform, rather than put on muscle and come back stronger. His scar tissue problems were probably a result of him not doing what he was supposed to. I see no other reason the Bengals' would part ways with him for good at this point.

The Bengals' should be scouring the wire for a better 3rd RB option - they won't but they should.

[HairOnFire]

What do you look for whan eyeing a RB?

For me, I've been waiting years to see Chris Perry break a tackle.

Still waiting.

[Adam-Whodey]

Oh, no doubt about the injury history. I'm just saying he looked quick to my eye.

And our running game will go as far as our line's health takes us. Doesn't matter who the back is. If there ain't no hole, there ain't no running game and our line looks great. Did you see the tackle eligible to Andrews last night? I've been down on him as a run blocker, but he's got great hands!!

yeah you got me there...i just think rudi is the only back who can carry the load all season but it all starts in the trenches

[gregstephens]

What do you look for whan eyeing a RB?

For me, I've been waiting years to see Chris Perry break a tackle.

Still waiting.

Yeah, I'm not sure what the new Bengals' benchmark is for quickness as some have said Perry looked quick to them, and maybe he did Saturday...I didn't get to see that mock game. From what I saw Friday, other than the short route catches he's always been good with, Perry wasn't breaking anything on the ground but a good sweat. Of course, fortunately, he didn't break anything else either.

[HAPPYJAQ]

because I'm not liking what I see out of Perry.

Seriously Greg, what amount of Perry have you seen to actually dislike? The dude has seemingly carried more this preseason than all the other years combined.

I saw him at the scrimmage not being able to rattle off more than two or three yards from the line of scrimmage against the second and third string of OUR defense. He's bigger and slower than he was and will not add much more to the Bengals running game than Rudi, Kenny, etc. He made a couple of nice catches for about eight/nine yards each, but that was it. That is the amount of Perry I have seen. You will counterargue that Perry is blowing off two years of rust in not playing. Yes he is. Guess what? That doesn't help the running game now, and we need it now. We don't have the luxury of being able to see if he can return to form by midseason. Of course, it doesn't matter, does it? We are stuck with a running game that will not support the pass game, resulting in an offense that will not be able to outshoot other teams, which we will need because the defense will still be sub-par.

I agree that is the concern, and feel the same about Perry. Great for an occassional pass out of the backfield, but not much else.

As for Irons he did himself in by not working hard enough in rehab, preferring to party and have pictures taken of him in his girlfriend's cheerleading uniform, rather than put on muscle and come back stronger. His scar tissue problems were probably a result of him not doing what he was supposed to. I see no other reason the Bengals' would part ways with him for good at this point.

The Bengals' should be scouring the wire for a better 3rd RB option - they won't but they should.

I still remember that game in '05 against Jacksonville, where Perry looked like the second coming of Marshall Faulk. If he's half as good as that, I'll take him. When he's healthy, he's a very special player. He looks a little bigger this year. I think he's around 230. Even if he's not as fast as he was, he's still a mismatch for 85% of LB's in the NFL and too big for most S's and corners. At the least, he deserves a good look.

[agreen_112]

This will be Perry's year to break out of the old frame and declare himself a true NFL running back... He's good enough to do it, he just needs the bad luck to go away.

[ShulaSteakhouse]

because I'm not liking what I see out of Perry.

Seriously Greg, what amount of Perry have you seen to actually dislike? The dude has seemingly carried more this preseason than all the other years combined.

I saw him at the scrimmage not being able to rattle off more than two or three yards from the line of scrimmage against the second and third string of OUR defense. He's bigger and slower than he was and will not add much more to the Bengals running game than Rudi, Kenny, etc. He made a couple of nice catches for about eight/nine yards each, but that was it. That is the amount of Perry I have seen. You will counterargue that Perry is blowing off two years of rust in not playing. Yes he is. Guess what? That doesn't help the running game now, and we need it now. We don't have the luxury of being able to see if he can return to form by midseason. Of course, it doesn't matter, does it? We are stuck with a running game that will not support the pass game, resulting in an offense that will not be able to outshoot other teams, which we will need because the defense will still be sub-par.

I agree that is the concern, and feel the same about Perry. Great for an occassional pass out of the backfield, but not much else.

As for Irons he did himself in by not working hard enough in rehab, preferring to party and have pictures taken of him in his girlfriend's cheerleading uniform, rather than put on muscle and come back stronger. His scar tissue problems were probably a result of him not doing what he was supposed to. I see no other reason the Bengals' would part ways with him for good at this point.

The Bengals' should be scouring the wire for a better 3rd RB option - they won't but they should.

I still remember that game in '05 against Jacksonville, where Perry looked like the second coming of Marshall Faulk. If he's half as good as that, I'll take him. When he's healthy, he's a very special player. He looks a little bigger this year. I think he's around 230. Even if he's not as fast as he was, he's still a mismatch for 85% of LB's in the NFL and too big for most S's and corners. At the least, he deserves a good look.

He's really not that good. Dorsey looked like Barry Sanders in one game last year too. Should've made Perry a WR.

[derekshank]

He's really not that good. Dorsey looked like Barry Sanders in one game last year too. Should've made Perry a WR.

I don't know about Perry as a WR... but I'm with you. I don't want to keep beating this dead horse... but Perry was never close to Faulk. I remember that Jax game too. Yes, he showed promise. One of the few times in his incredibly mediocre career... but we're talking about a game where he gained a total of 55 yards rushing and 21 yards receiving. Not exactly Marshall Faulk like.

I don't want glimpses. I want to be proven wrong. Break a tackle, score a *** damn TD, seriously... anything that decent RB's do, and I'll cut some slack.