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The biggest question for me about the game at the time Joe went out was more about the Defense. Could they rally to get enough stops to win? I never really doubted the offenses ability vs. Jags to put up yards/points under Joe. The biggest question is why there was such a dramatic change in pass pro results because on the surface a back up QB trailing in the game should have gotten way more pressure and the Jags gave several looks and brought the house a couple times. I actually thought Zac out coached whoever was calling Jags D 2nd half. There's no doubt in my mind Joe puts up equal or better production vs. Jags yesterday.

Probably best to get the surgery instead of screwing around with rehab. From what I've read there can be set backs all the time just trying to rehab it. I doubt he makes it back this year.

Football gods. Bengals you are in FIRST place and 2-0 start. So you're not getting Joe Burrow anymore.

Line was getting whooped early in the game. Then late in the game they weren't as bad. There is a clear difference in play calling and approach with Browning under center. Joe is an uber talent QB. They've probably gotten carried away with his talent and might need to dial back his influence if he survives Toe scare. Also I don't know what you have to do to get the line playing better. KC and Buffalo had to do minor adjustments as well. Mahomes has suffered injuries just never ones that have taken him off the field for significant periods. Allen is a tank. But those offenses like the Bengals got caught up in the uber-talented QB as well.

After absorbing some in dept All 22 breakdowns by the youtube community. Jordan Battle - IMO, finally showed some the hype he has been getting. Probably his best game so far and he might have started turning the corner late last year. Maybe. Arimus Mims - Just does his job and does it very well. I saw his PFF grades were low, bullshit. Might have a legit pro bowler over there. We'll see. Stay healthy please. CTB - struggled which most knew. Dax Hill - quietly did his job very good. Shemar - IMO, he needs to hit the stat sheet more as first rounder. Played very good complimentary football but guys with the first round target need to have stats eventually.

Nothing beats....... run on your own gas. Ball Disruption came through week 1.

12 slot difference. Murphy vs. Foskey.

I'd mark this down in the same category as the Jags OL they got. Both from a draft prospect standpoint look like good additions. Just got to wonder why they moved on from them so fast.

Joe runs the game as much if not more than any other franchise QB. But a lot of stuff is mixed up pre snap and its crazy what can change post snap. I'd say its rare a singular play is ever called. Its incredible how fast NFL QBs process information. From the couch whenever Joe puts his hands up to his helmet he's changing the play for sure. But any route combination can change just based on pre-snap formation and like wise post snap based on what the coverage does. Supposedly what Cleveland does so well vs. Bengals is they know how to make 1 coverage technique look like another and apparently confuses Joe.

Also wish the D could have not allowed the points before half or the TD after half. That was probably the most disappointing part of the defensive effort. Joe throws a TD to go up 14-7. Next time he touches the ball he's down 16-14.

Not saying fans should have faith in the defense at this point. But when there's a lack of faith in a defensive unit any member not putting up stats will be questioned and the dirty work will be overlooked. No better example of this than Rey Maualuga. Basically with Zimmer he operated like an off the ball NT used to disrupt G/Cs blocking to clog lanes not make tackles. Stewart supposedly had a lot of good dirty work plays. 0 tackles and sacks will still have people doubting. That's why I was hoping he and Murphy could get of the snide with sacks. Hopefully, the defensive unit be better but 1st round DE without sacks will not be looked upon favorably on a bad unit. See Justin Smith.

Summarizes struggles from last year and early in the season. 1st- I think Gesicki should have gotten the flag after what we saw the first Browns drive. 2nd - Clear Joe isn't seeing the field because Chase might have been open for TD? All reminds me of last year watching Patriots and Joe is electing for a 5 yard scramble over a dump off for 30+ If you entertain that throwing to Chase eventually results in a TD then the game takes a whole new life with momentum because there's no way the Browns can sit on the ball trailing 21-16. They talked about that alot during the off season in which they missed plays earlier in the game that resulted in being a too close for comfort ending.

OL had some bright spots. The 3 sack series a portion of blame can be shared with Burrow/Play Call.

Best thing about beating Cleveland week 1 is you don't see them until the end of year. Fans see Cleveland and think about the typical dumpster fire that organization has been forever. Easy blow out win. First, blow wins on the road are hard. So far in week 1 any road team winning has been a 1 score or less win. Second, Browns defense is good enough and Flacco is competent enough to steal victories. Its when the thin playoff hopes fade, insert young ill-prepared QB, then vets start checking out, that's when the dumpster fire happens.

Good to see and read about Shemar.

Also when Joe scores 40 and loses. National Media says he should ask for a trade. Lamar scores 40 in a loss? Can't wait for all the trade talk this week.

Lucas Patrick is a guy you may want to IR for a return and sign somebody for depth. He's been dealing with something lower body since the start of TC. Let him get healthy.

Joe had another bad opener, period. Just watching some of the play break downs. I'm not sure you can put ALL the sacks on the line. But ball placement or timing was bad (to his standards) on several throws. The most notable were the back to back completions in which Cleveland defenders knocked them out of bounds. Ball should could have been better to secure those plays. He pulled a classic Andy tossing one that hits the white on a deep ball. Not sure what it is with him but I do think the threat of the Cleveland pass rush messed with his head a little.

Its good to be 1-0 in division. There were multiple road teams that took bad division loses including NFC favorite Lions and AFC favorite Chiefs. Both looked like non playoff teams. However, preseason is an indicator of nothing as we can see the Bengals actually know how to be in run gaps vs. the preseason performance and unfortunately for football fans Week 1 and 2 teams are still ramping up. Week 1 and 2 is just something you try to survive and avoid facing the dreaded 0-3 start.

The ref thing is annoying, IMO. I remember last year as well. Cleveland has crappy QB and WRs in comparison to the Bengals. It flips when it comes to secondary. I think the Browns had 4 or 5 passing penalties in the secondary today. 3 in the first drive. I think Bengals 1 all day. IF the penalties that were called on the Browns first drive were legit. Then there's no way in hell with the way the Browns play there's only 1 flag IF I'm remembering correctly. In the drive following the battle INT they could have and should have called PI on a ball to Gesicki IF any of those 3 first drive calls were the standard. Last year up in Cleveland Browns got a ticky tack one in the endzone that set up a TD for them. The refs actually picked a flag up on a call vs. Chase. It is bullshit. It was that way, IMO, in both Ravens games as well.

I don't think Defense was perfect at all, actually some annoying 2nd down defense. But they produced a INT and the offense can't punch it in. Hold to a FG attempt after the offense giving up 3 sacks in a row. Lucky with missed FG. Offense can't get a first down. Produce another TO. I'd say that's the assumed needed defense for this year assuming the offense doesn't suck.

Also. Browns got 3 PI or whatever penalties on the 1st drive. The Bengals get 1 PI in the game? Bullshit ref. So glad they won but hard for me to believe Browns can cover that well and IF those 1st Browns Drive calls were legit that Bengals weren't held/PI except 1 time.

Got lucky. Complete bullshit by Zac, Burrow and OL in that 4th quarter. Play calling on that 3 sack series stupid, pass pro weak. Lucky to get a miss FG and then can't get a 1st down complete bullshit offense. Lucky as hell. Defense. Kudos. Not perfect thought their 2nd down defense was shitty all day. But secured the win. Much to improve on but survived the first week is so much better than losing that game.

Karras Extended which might be their most important FA at the moment. Hopefully a defender or two step up to warrant worry about extending come March.

"I thinking Arbys!". That horsy sauce on the Italian is like an odd couple but soul mates at the same time.