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I don't really care about the details of the game. Drop Trey Hendrickson into coverage 100% of the time. Whatever. The overall point is this: In 2015 AJ Green caught a playoff game winning TD! Then some shit happened and it wasn't a game winning TD. The Marvin era was over right then and there. Everyone knew it or everyone not employed by the Bengals. So? Don't take 3 years to realize it. Too many good coaches out there deserving a chance, So don't try to tinker/band aid this team to try to get Zac back to his high point. He had his shot. He's got 14 games left. As of right now he blew it. Sorry. In a weird way, Zac kinda proves the mistake it was to keep rolling Marvin back out there post 2015. Zac had them in the Superbowl the 3rd season after Marvin. Unless this season turns drastically around don't waste time after the season with Zac. Assume this shit season remains shit. They got a realistic 2/3 season window remaining. Sucks for Zac. Had your shot, you flew as high as you could. Time to move on.

I like Zac. Thinks he's a good coach. Nothing that's happened this season invalidates what he accomplished as the HC when times were good. Same with Lou. However, the next chapter isn't working out. FIX it or be gone. Jake Browning has been here 3 seasons and unchallenged as #2. Big mistake. Too bad. Too many young offensive coaches across the league would jump at chance to start their HC career with Chase, Higgins, Burrow and whoever else is under contract next year. Either fix it or be gone. Then Zac can go attempt a revenge tour in some other city. NFL is a cold deal.

1. Jake Browning horrible. Not an excuse because this organization has left him unchallenged at #2 QB despite him sucking every preseason he's been here. 2. Aikman nailed it last year and again last night. Its just a fucked up mentality to want to play Throw and Catch on offense completely. Then when that doesn't work out there's nothing. Which leads to a soft defense being on the field way too much. 3. Prior to these two game they had the chance to disprove the narrative all they've done is draft Joe Burrow. Instead they have quickly cemented that narrative into a FACT. 4. Once again, defense soft as can be. Leave them out there and they'll bleed yards/points to any capable offense.

I think its appropriate to throw this in here consider all the Toe Burrow hot takes. The TOP FA guard this past offseason. Vikings won the sweepstakes! So far he is among the very bottom of pass block win rate playing RG for the Vikes. So hopefully the Bengals can get more pressure this game. But since there are a ton of "don't invest/fix OL" narratives going around. IF the Bengals would have signed him and let Higgins go that's what you would have had early this year so far. I think the Whitworth article floating around touches on all of the difficult segments. 1. Burrow doesn't proctect himself. 2. Scheme/Game Plan is one of the toughest to play as OL 3. They have not drafted a linemen they deem worthy of a 2nd contract in a long time.

Film break downs: From what I've seen and its weird having 2 linemen on this when the franchise QB goes down: 1. Fairchild - damn good. 2. Mims - damn good 3. Risner - struggle bus 4. Dax - Damn good 5. CTB - Damn good.

Backs ups? When a "franchise" QB proves that with his play, if people are being honest that individual typically receives more credit for team success. So when a "franchise" QB goes down and a lesser known QB has team success that QB will absorb some of the credit but it really just highlights the parts of the team observers did not credit before. Bengals D didn't have a great stat game vs. Jags. However, most damage was done first half. The Bengals D rallied in 2nd half and even suffered -2 TO margin without ever playing with a lead. Point being. Browning probably good enough to produce wins that keeps them in the hunt. But they are going to have to win TO battle and defense will need to continue to improve. There's a shit ton of narratives surrounding this team even before the season began. With Browning now getting a good chunk of games once again this team has an opportunity to show that's its more than Joe Burrow.

I know Ossasi ran past a sack 1 time. Kinda 2nd week in a row he's done that. Still not enough pressure when only rushing down lineman. Haven't noticed a lot of blitzing which I know Dax is good at.

Bengals have never won in Minny. There you go.

I can't tell you how many. Back ups going on a "Hot Streak" and playoff runs have happened in the NFL. Trying to assign a probability to it is kinda hard. The most famous one will be Brady/Bledsoe. Bledsoe was healthy come playoff time. Brady got hurt early in AFC Champ game vs. Steelers. Bledsoe won the game. Then it was a story line of who would start in Superbowl. Then who would be starting QB next year. Ultimately, Bledsoe trade rumors started and happened. Bengals were briefly in the mix but Bledsoe said "Hell no".

I mixed up games. Browning's first start was vs. the Steelers following Burrow's injury in 2023. That's what I thought you were talking about. In that particular game. Browning should have thrown multiple picks that were dropped or tipped to J'mar Chase. He ended up throwing 1. He was not good. However, OL wasn't either and Defense was horrible. I didn't think much of Browning as he would not deliver the football and avoided several INTs. However the line was horrible, I recall two lineman pulling into each other in the run game, just unprepared. Then the Defense was horrible playing against a bad offense. The 4 Int game of Burrow vs. Steelers in the opener. If I recall most emphasis was on the missed kicking operation and why couldn't Zac tell the future and have a back up long snapper active. IMO, local media are fan boi's with Burrow and often deflect blame away from him and at the same time Burrow is one of the best QBs in the league.

Correct. They do not need to state it at this time for league rules. I don't remember the number of players allowed to return. Basically put them on IR, they have to miss 4 games before being eligible for return.

I can't remember exactly. I know I didn't think Browning was good. I thought the O-line in that game was horrible. Most thou, IMO, that's when Lou's shine started to wear off. Coming into that game the Steeler Offense had a streak of non-400 yard games and rolled all over Lou's unit. But Browning was poor against the Steeler twice that year and that makes me nervous because 2 games vs. Steelers will be with him starting.

All 22 filtering out now. Toe play with Pitcher's comments indicate it was a quick hitter that Jags played well. Instead of putting ball at risk or throwing incomplete, Joe decided to try secondary option. People don't like hearing this but that play was probably not entirely a line issue if at all. OBJ clearly takes lateral step remaining flat. Take 3 factors Pitcher's comment, Joe's eyes, and OBJ set and the ball was intended to be out. Once Joe pumps and pulls it down. He's going to have defenders because they didn't set deep for longer routes thus only pocket created was from formation and no drop. After pulling ball down Joe jumps outside of OBJ, Jag defender cuts him off. He goes back inside were Risner's man is crawling on the ground and finds his ankle. Jag defender falls on top.

local kid. St. X. Cool.

True Crossroads are upon us. Recovery timeline suggests Browning gets the next 9-12 games. A lot of young defenders and proven offense players. The narratives about this roster and coaching staff will play out right before our eyes.

Dalton's OL crushes anything Burrow has had. Whit, Boling, Bodine, Z, and Big tits. Hands down a top 10 unit if not top 5. Fans didn't like the OL coach because they thought he was a Mike Brown hold over the same with Brat. Idiot thinking. A lot of Bengals wanted to live a bad OL life, back then. Unfortunately we get to live a bad OL life now. There was a season Alexander's line gave up 17 sacks in a SEASON. Recent Bengals give that up first 4 games and probably more.

If they are going FAs then its ride or die with Browning.

The biggest question for me about the game at the time Joe went out was more about the Defense. Could they rally to get enough stops to win? I never really doubted the offenses ability vs. Jags to put up yards/points under Joe. The biggest question is why there was such a dramatic change in pass pro results because on the surface a back up QB trailing in the game should have gotten way more pressure and the Jags gave several looks and brought the house a couple times. I actually thought Zac out coached whoever was calling Jags D 2nd half. There's no doubt in my mind Joe puts up equal or better production vs. Jags yesterday.

Probably best to get the surgery instead of screwing around with rehab. From what I've read there can be set backs all the time just trying to rehab it. I doubt he makes it back this year.

Football gods. Bengals you are in FIRST place and 2-0 start. So you're not getting Joe Burrow anymore.

Line was getting whooped early in the game. Then late in the game they weren't as bad. There is a clear difference in play calling and approach with Browning under center. Joe is an uber talent QB. They've probably gotten carried away with his talent and might need to dial back his influence if he survives Toe scare. Also I don't know what you have to do to get the line playing better. KC and Buffalo had to do minor adjustments as well. Mahomes has suffered injuries just never ones that have taken him off the field for significant periods. Allen is a tank. But those offenses like the Bengals got caught up in the uber-talented QB as well.

After absorbing some in dept All 22 breakdowns by the youtube community. Jordan Battle - IMO, finally showed some the hype he has been getting. Probably his best game so far and he might have started turning the corner late last year. Maybe. Arimus Mims - Just does his job and does it very well. I saw his PFF grades were low, bullshit. Might have a legit pro bowler over there. We'll see. Stay healthy please. CTB - struggled which most knew. Dax Hill - quietly did his job very good. Shemar - IMO, he needs to hit the stat sheet more as first rounder. Played very good complimentary football but guys with the first round target need to have stats eventually.

Nothing beats....... run on your own gas. Ball Disruption came through week 1.

12 slot difference. Murphy vs. Foskey.

I'd mark this down in the same category as the Jags OL they got. Both from a draft prospect standpoint look like good additions. Just got to wonder why they moved on from them so fast.