ArmyBengal

That sucks. That kid is going to be good.

I have tried in recent years not to talk myself into agreeing for the sake of agreeing as well. Thats not the case here and have said I don’t dislike less than anyone here I think. If the only way you view the kid is by sacks, that’s a disservice. I’m not leading the charge to put him in the Hall of Fame mine you, just acknowledging we addressed a need with a high motor, high character kid with outstanding athletic ability. It’s not like some of the other character concerns and small school concerns you have with some of the others.

He wasn't productive in many of the categories that get most of the talk. Sacks? No. Tackles? Not really. TFL? 13. Forced Fumbles? Just 1. INT's? None. However, as I mentioned previously he led the nation in a little known stat "seconds to pressure" at 2.43 seconds. Admittedly, that's REALLY fast from snap to making the QB feel your presence. Leading his team in pressures is also noteworthy. I don't know what they will get from him at this point, but won't complain about a guy that can bring that pressure. Pressuring the QB makes things easier on the rest of the defense. D-line, linebackers, secondary, everyone. Yes please, give me that. Hubbard was loved and averaged 5.5 sacks per season over his 7 seasons with the Bengals. Dare I say that between Murphy and Stewart, they should be able to get that? Color me confident...

Yeah, there's more beyond that group of six I like, but figuring at least 6 of those will be there puts us in a good spot.

Yeah, I really wanted to put any of those RB's in there and would probably add a couple WR's, but regarding what I think is "best" for the team, that's it.

I get that as well for sure. Looking at what was done is still very impressive. No two ways about that. I would have liked to see the agility drills though. I'm one of the weird ones that watch that stuff. Football season truly never ends.

Like I said before. Nothing to get upset about at THIS time. If that talent doesn't come to fruition, then complain. Right now I'm happy we addressed the DE position.

I commented on his perfect 10 RAS score and just how ridiculous it is, really is eye popping. #1 out of 1829 defensive ends from 1987-2025 ?? Fucking seriously ?? The manner in which offense and defense is played in college is a pretty valid point as well. An 88.2 run grade is actually an importance aspect, as the Bengals lost Hubbard known for his run stopping ability. If part of his primary role was to disrupt the run and option games, adding him to spy Lamar would be welcomed. That's quite the take on Stewart and from someone not associated with the Bengals. Nice !!

Ok, here are the players: CB Will Johnson DE Mike Green OG Tate Ratledge S Nick Emmanwori S Xavier Watts S Kevin Winston CB Shavon Revel DE Donovan Ezeiruaku RB TreVeyon Henderson RB Kaleb Johnson RB Quinshon Judkins LB Carson Schwesinger CB Trey Amos CB Benjamin Harrison DT TJ Sanders OT/OG Marcus Mbow OT Charles Grant OC Jared Wilson OT Aireontae Ersery DT Omarr Norman-Lott OT/OG Jonah Savaniiaea LB Demetrius Knight That's 22 players and we are 17 picks in, which will leave at least 6 to chose from. Give me your 6 from most to least want. (I want them all) OG Tate Ratledge LB Carson Schwesinger S Kevin Winston DE Mike Green DT TJ Sanders CB Will Johnson

Not Bengals related, but draft related, hence me placing it here. I have a co-worker who is a Jags fan and he must have read Florio's take on Travis Hunter and decided it was his take in the office, claiming they "literally" got two players for the price of one. It was one of those mornings I didn't feel like being agreeable for the sake of it and responded with, "That's literally the dumbest take I've heard on that pick". "You literally got ONE player, not two and the price was not for one." They swapped first round picks, so it cost the difference of those two spots. Then got the Jags 2nd and 4th round picks this year along with their 1st rounder next year. That's far from the price of one. After him trying to explain what they really meant, I finished with, "The Jags LITERALLY got one player for the price of 3 players and the cost difference between the 2nd and 5th pick contracts, oh and if Hunter goes down to injury, they literally lose two starters." I'm pretty sure I heard a murmured "What a dick" as I was walking away. I've been called worse and I really don't like the Jags...

A saving grace for me being a side bar Texans fan is that they/we have 5 picks tonight. Two 2nd's and three 3rd's. That being the case, there's no way they take Scourton at the top of the 2nd. They need all positions on the o-line BAD. That's my guess with them. Us? That's not a nightmare scenario to me either. If you still think DE after Stewart, JT Tuimoloau who I think is underrated as can be. OT Ersery OG Savaiinaea DT Sanders OG Milum RB Judkins WR Higgins S Watts DT Norman-Lott Hell, there are other CB's and Safeties besides those listed I like as well. I'd be good with any of those I listed in relation to Trepasso's thoughts. Two later round DT's I like are Aeneas Peebles, VT and Rylie Mills, Notre Dame.

Would have no problem with any of the following (No specific order): S, Nick Emmanwori (Love this kid) DE, Mike Green LB, Carson Schwesinger (Love this kid) OG, Jonah Savaiinaea S, Xavier Watts S, Kevin Winston Jr. OG, Tate Ratledge OT, Aireontae Ersery If they get crazy and go skill position: RB, TreVeyon Henderson RB, Quinshon Judkins WR, Jayden Higgins WR, Jaylin Noel RB, Kaleb Johnson

I get the concern for sure, but still don't hate the pick. If he can't get on the field because Myles Murphy is so dominant, I will be happy. If both Myles and Shemar suck ass, then there's reason to be pissed. Right now? Not really. He has just as much a chance to suck this year as any other player taken. At least it wasn't a WR or RB.

And there goes my linebacker to the Eagles. Geeeesh…

Like I said above, really strange. Probably hating it less than everyone here, while not loving it. Lets see what they do in the 2nd…

I have seen and done a few mocks recently that had Shemar Stewart falling. I never really considered him as he was always going in the top 10. I looked into it and am completely baffled. Here's a guy that's 6'5, 267lbs and has a perfect 10 RAS score. On the other hand, he's never had more than 1.5 sacks in a year and a total of 4.5 in his three college seasons. Only 65 combined tackles in all three seasons as well? It's about as underwhelming as one can get from a production standpoint. He also led his team in tackles for loss had 42 QB pressures and had the best "seconds to pressure" in all of college football last season at 2.43 seconds. Is the potential enough to consider him? I've long heard that coaches really want to see the production at the college level. Really strange prospect...

Like I said above, really strange. Probably hating it less than everyone here, while not loving it. Lets see what they do in the 2nd…

I like Nolen, but when looking at our 1-4 DT's, using the 17th pick seems like a bit of a reach. I really hope Banks is gone. I'm not a fan of his either. Stewart has exactly what you want from a DE, literally EXACTLY. Minus the production. Resolve that. Zabel in the first? Please God no. Volson has me soured on those guys at this point. Trades? Don't expect it, wouldn't mind it.

One of my favorite memories was when I would spend day and night on this board during the draft updating the threads back in the day. I then got deployed to Afghanistan and we had no phones and no internet. Then, like a miracle, we got a satellite link that year (2007) right before the draft and I stayed up posting on the board. The draft started at like 4:30am because of the time difference and I had a blast. Totally took my mind off of where the hell I was for a short period of time. CB, Leon Hall RB, Kenny Irons No 3rd rounder because we took LB, Ahmad Brooks in the 2006 Supplemental Draft S, Marvin White QB, Jeff Rowe DT, Matt Toeaina OG, Dan Santucci S, Chinedum Ndukwe (7th round comp pick)

Not much discussion today about the draft and only the same BS articles like, "The Bengals may target Trey Hendrickson's replacement at 17". No shit huh? That's quite the bold take there buddy. Can't believe you went so far out onto that limb. C'mon 8pm...

I don't disagree with much of the above. Stewart Campbell Booker Green Pearce None of those would surprise me in the least. Maybe not what I would "want", but certainly could fathom any of those picks. The only position I have softened on is DT. Slaton, Hill, Jenkins and McKinnley look like a solid 1-4 to me. I guess if they just loved someone that much, but I can't envision that being the priority. Look at not only the starter, but the depth. DE and LB have to be addressed. Safety is another one regardless of when, that needs help as well.

HAPPY DRAFT DAY everyone !!

His Bengals section is spot on.

I any of those names... Emmanwori, Harmon, or Green fall into the 2nd round, the chances of them falling to #49 are next to nothing. If so, that would be a gift from God that should see someone racing (I don't think they do that anymore) to the podium.

Like him, I think people aren't as concerned about the "maturity issues" with Walter Nolen as is being made. Honestly, an interior pass rush specialist like him is something I could see the Bengals going after if he were there. I'm not saying that would be my favorite way to go, but I'm expecting a DT at some point so you never know. Also, if Mason Graham were to fall to #13, I would hope like hell the Bengals were trying to move up. Mike Green? I don't think my concern, as mentioned, would be what Trey Hendrickson would think about the pick or if it were fair, whatever that really matters, but rather making sure the sexual assault charges aren't factual. There was one in high school which was quickly closed. Not sure why, but if it was quick, I'm not as concerned. The second one was in 2022 while at Virginia. That charge has never gone anywhere and he has never even been questioned about it. Of course he claims it was a total misrepresentation of him and he vehemently denies the allegations. If that's all worked through, he's a go at #17 without a doubt, but they better have done their research on him. He makes me nervous because of that and he doesn't typically fit what the Bengals look for. Biggest being him playing for Marshall against lower competition. The two hardest games they had were against VT and Ohio State. He had 2 sacks against VT and another 1 against Ohio State for what it's worth. Looking at who else was on the board, I noticed Nick Emmanwori wasn't in the first round. Ok, but if he actually falls to the top of the 2nd round, I would again hope the Bengals would be trying to move up and grab him. Coming away with Mike Green and Nick Emmanwori would be about as much as you could ask for.