HoosierCat Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 I mean, given how the team comes out every week they clearly don’t game plan, and given the performance of the players they aren’t coaching, so...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volcom69 Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 Well it’s obviously not working on how to run the ball. Even with the shittiest lines Mixon should be able to get 5 yards at least.....come on!! Right now Paul Alexander is a better coach then this fool they have coaching the line, man this coaching staff is awful I dont know maybe it’s just me, but even the guys who are supposed to be the talents on this team are looking like trash this year. You would think as the weeks go on this team would get better in some phase, but I have yet to see that. Where are the Bengals adjustments whether in game or halftime. I always busted on Marvin for this shit and we still have yet to see it. That’s what makes a good coaching staff! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted October 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 2 hours ago, volcom69 said: Well it’s obviously not working on how to run the ball. Even with the shittiest lines Mixon should be able to get 5 yards at least.....come on!! Right now Paul Alexander is a better coach then this fool they have coaching the line, man this coaching staff is awful I dont know maybe it’s just me, but even the guys who are supposed to be the talents on this team are looking like trash this year. You would think as the weeks go on this team would get better in some phase, but I have yet to see that. Where are the Bengals adjustments whether in game or halftime. I always busted on Marvin for this shit and we still have yet to see it. That’s what makes a good coaching staff! The weird thing is, they actually seem good at halftime adjustments! Aside from the first game against Seattle, they’ve only been good in the second half. It’s like they don’t do shit all week, then after 30 minutes of watching the other team, they’re like, ok we need to do this, this and this and suddenly there’s a game except it’s too late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volcom69 Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 37 minutes ago, HoosierCat said: The weird thing is, they actually seem good at halftime adjustments! Aside from the first game against Seattle, they’ve only been good in the second half. It’s like they don’t do shit all week, then after 30 minutes of watching the other team, they’re like, ok we need to do this, this and this and suddenly there’s a game except it’s too late. Sure then that’s where the in game adjustments come in, after the first few series they should be making them. Then again I’m no coach so I have no clue. It just seems like what talented guys are on the field are very inconsistent, and the back ups have yet to step it up. I’m starting to feel like it could be awhile till we even see a good football team again. Not to mention every year as of late all there good players are getting hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 I am going with internet porn so that I am better able to relate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 Really though I think the team is a bag of ass to such an extent that actually evaluating this staff is nigh impossible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMPHAR Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 Remember when they tried to hire the Florida D- Coord? And he said there was a lack talent? Well I guess he was right about that side of the ball. D-line is vastly overrated on this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volcom69 Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 I just want to know what happened to the guys we thought were good or at least at one was good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMPHAR Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 They weren’t really good against run last year and I think people put too much of it on the LBs. The D-line as a whole doesn’t get off blocks or destroy blocking schemes. Just giving up too many yards to be considered good. Now of course during training camp they look awesome going against a bunch of guys that might not be in the league if it weren’t for Tobin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 Here are my big picture issues: 1. I am afraid Taylor is well over his head. In fact, I am sure of it. I guess they will hold him and hope it gets better, but that would be simply based on wishful thinking. My main issue is that his offensive system doesn't make any sense. The quote from the Jags defensive lineman who go the pick 6 is pretty chilling. Basically, that whenever Gio is in the game it's a pass and whenever Mixon is in the game it's a run - so he played it that way and was in the right spot. That's insane. Mixon is clearly an excellent receiver - I have no idea why they have stopped using him sometimes in that role. That goes back to Taylor. The lack of TE usage is beyond weird. They re-signed Uzomah and Eifert. Drafted Sample in the SECOND ****ING ROUND. Had three other useful TEs on the roster behind those three. And every gameplan we've seen, that position group is an afterthought. The Turner hire (his buddy) at o-line was HIGHLY questionable at the time and has only gotten worse. We are told over and over again that the o-line coach designs the run game and run fits - well - this is at this point, statistically, one of the worst rushing teams of all time. Turner wanted Hart back - sung his praises. I assume Turner signed off on Miller at RG. Whatever else has gone on in that room, we all knew that o-line needed to be addressed and get better this year after a historically bad line last year, and it has somehow gotten worse. It is hard to look at Taylor through seven games and have any confidence in him on any level.2. Whatever is going on between Tobin and Taylor and who is shopping for the groceries etc is profoundly off. Tobin should already be gone. You know what would help a trash line? Someone like Lamar Jackson. Course, we passed on him to reach for Billy Price, who apparently is genuinely bad. The years of over-looking needs at LB. The missed picks at o-line. Whatever the ****ing thought process was that lead to reaching for Drew Sample in the 2nd round - a blocking TE in a scheme that doesn't emphasize TE usage at all - I don't even know what to say. It's disastrous. It's not just the losing - it is the losing with nothing that looks like a coherent plan or approach to building a team and an organizational vision. The decision to extend Gio with no plan on how to use him - just, why? Why is he here?3. It is hard to look at AJ and some of the other slow recoveries from injuries and not raise an eyebrow. Players on the field are trying, but, man, it doesn't feel like players are rushing to be back.4. More coaching weirdness that I don't get - Dennard believed he was ready at end of camp but team chose to PUP him. That was a waste. They cut Devontae Harris (who is now starting in Denver) to keep Tony McRae, who is absolutely bad at his job. The gameplans a few weeks ago that had Billings dropping into coverage. Gameplans where they only rush two. I don't get what they are doing, at all.5. It was only injuries that forced their hand on letting Brandon Wilson return kicks. What in the hell took so long? Why did injuries have to force that?6. Dalton is indeed done.7. I don't even have a point, I am just rambling/ranting. If there was any sense of plan, they would, as I have been calling for, trade everything not tied down to stockpile a LOT of picks. Get their next QB at the top of the draft and start filling in. Fire their kinda GM before the next round of grocery shopping. Bring in a real GM and let him make the call on Taylor getting another chance. Shoot Jim Turner into the sun. I doubt they do any of that. I am guessing this all ends with the team in their new home in San Diego in 2027.8. Sigh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volcom69 Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 Yea this really is a team without a plan and it shows. I was really hoping Zac would have brought some vet help with him to coach but instead brought all his friends, who are also just as green as he is. Im not sure where all this is going, but it sure seems like it’s going to be a long time till we see a winner again. At least when Marvin came in there was a sense in change, a sense that it was going somewhere. He took a team that went 2-14 a year before to 8-8, I’m just not getting that feeling from Zac. I think this team is worse then last year, and for the most part it’s the same. Not sure maybe Taylor turns out great, I hope so, but I’m not getting my hopes up anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMPHAR Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 Mediocre Dalton behind a crap line isn’t a good situation. We all know that. I think that’s were we need to start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COB Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 37 minutes ago, AMPHAR said: I think that’s were we need to start. I agree because it seems o-line/QB rebuilds take significant time. Our run defense is 32nd in the league. Defense overall is 31st. So that 2nd level will need a total rebuild as well. But start with o-line and QB first, then maybe both sides will round into shape at approximately the same time. (Probably about one year after I depart this mortal coil). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COB Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 3 hours ago, membengal said: Here are my big picture issues: Thanks for an insightful and illuminating analysis of our missteps and deficiencies. I hope Katie reads it. Or Mike. Or whoever has the power in that organization. Of course for some reason that particular fact is none of our business. We’ve all hoped something would change in the Bengals’ organization. Specifically an outside GM being hired. Well, we’re historically bad this year. If this pile of absolute shit doesn’t prompt Mike to change the way he does business, nothing will. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volcom69 Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 49 minutes ago, AMPHAR said: Mediocre Dalton behind a crap line isn’t a good situation. We all know that. I think that’s were we need to start. No doubt that’s where they have to start. However I think they need picks, they need talent on that o-line, without draft picks Mike is going to have to spend money, the question is will he? Or better yet will they want to play here? I think it’s time to try this Fred Johnson and see what he has got, can’t be worse then what’s out there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 I'm totally rooting for 0-16, stop trying to figure shit out. Just let it completely hit the fan. Anything short of that will just have the front office thinking they've "turned the corner". Yes, it's a risk to sell off players for picks, but apparently, we aren't winning with those jokers either. If you are starting over at QB and o-line for the future, might as well get started on it with as many shots at hitting as possible. Speaking of which, there aren't going to be enough picks to fix what ails this team. For the love of God, can we get even a single impact free agent ?? Just f*cking one. God this organization needs an enema... I'm also in the camp of rooting for the team to leave Cincinnati. Has nothing to do with being a bad fan or other bad fans. Has EVERYTHING to do with being a bad organization. FUCK YOU MIKE BROWN AND YOUR WHOLE FAMILY. Just fuck you... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted October 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 6 hours ago, membengal said: 3. It is hard to look at AJ and some of the other slow recoveries from injuries and not raise an eyebrow. Players on the field are trying, but, man, it doesn't feel like players are rushing to be back. I pretty much agree with all of this. Re the above point, we most likely ain’t seen nothin’ yet. The season is lost, everyone knows it, and guys are going to start looking out for No. 1. No one is going to be in any hurry to get off the bench. And the guys who are playing will be looking to avoid injuries, especially those who are set to be free agents. I can’t say I blame them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 0-7... Yes, the season is over. At the very best, we can hope for 9-7 with no shot at the playoffs and we all know 9-7 isn't happening either. Can't tell me the players aren't thinking about that fact. I don't care what they (including AJ) say about it. Sadly, there are still fans out there thinking the above scenario is possible and the Bengals turn it around. I suspect they are probably part of the tens of people in attendance on Sunday... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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