pedroza29 Posted November 27, 2005 Report Share Posted November 27, 2005 I honestly believe that having a big 320 lbs hog like Shaun Smith on the line will make a world of difference in our run stopping and pass rush. I could be wrong, but my football knowledge that more good than bad will come from this. But I guess we'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whur CHad At? Posted November 27, 2005 Report Share Posted November 27, 2005 Shaun Smith is a absolute monster.....He is better than Thorton and Robinson combined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted November 27, 2005 Report Share Posted November 27, 2005 The knock on him has been his stamina. That is why he's been in the rotation rather than starting. To start him, we'll need a deep defensive line to spell him, and I don't think we have that. We'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PalmerforPresident Posted November 27, 2005 Report Share Posted November 27, 2005 i'd like to see an askew sighting just once this season. just to see what all the hype is about on his ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted November 27, 2005 Report Share Posted November 27, 2005 i'd like to see an askew sighting just once this season. just to see what all the hype is about on his ability.I can't believe we drafted this guy at all. It was a reach IMO! He could of been had as a free agent afterwards. Who's idea was it in the front office anyway? Any clues? Granted, he's the size you dream of at the position, but his total football experience is exceeded by most senior high schoolers! If you ask me there has to be something wrong about a guy with his dimensions not playing any football growing up. If he doesn't like sports, fine. I understand. I got a friend I work with who's 6-6 and 300+ pounds, and HATES football, basketball, anything ****ball. I don't believe you should try to make him a player anyway. His heart won't be in it. Whur CHad At? Posted 40 minutes ago Shaun Smith is a absolute monster.....He is better than Thorton and Robinson combined.Well it would be nice if that does happen to be the truth, but we really won't know until we see him actually play. Just because he's bigger doesn't mean he's better. Not by a mile! We'll hope for the best, because our defensive line could really use a boost right about now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalsLB Posted November 27, 2005 Report Share Posted November 27, 2005 Well smith is better cause he doesn'r get pushed back like b-rob and thorton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalindian Posted November 27, 2005 Report Share Posted November 27, 2005 I think BRob is better than Thornton, and him and Smith would atleast take up more space to stop the run atleast a little bit more than Thornton would. But hopefully Smith is able to develop a little so they can us him next year.Until then, BRob and JT will have to suffice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshfan Posted November 27, 2005 Report Share Posted November 27, 2005 i'd like to see an askew sighting just once this season. just to see what all the hype is about on his ability.I can't believe we drafted this guy at all. It was a reach IMO! He could of been had as a free agent afterwards. Who's idea was it in the front office anyway? Any clues? Granted, he's the size you dream of at the position, but his total football experience is exceeded by most senior high schoolers! If you ask me there has to be something wrong about a guy with his dimensions not playing any football growing up. If he doesn't like sports, fine. I understand. I got a friend I work with who's 6-6 and 300+ pounds, and HATES football, basketball, anything ****ball. I don't believe you should try to make him a player anyway. His heart won't be in it. Whur CHad At? Posted 40 minutes ago Shaun Smith is a absolute monster.....He is better than Thorton and Robinson combined.Well it would be nice if that does happen to be the truth, but we really won't know until we see him actually play. Just because he's bigger doesn't mean he's better. Not by a mile! We'll hope for the best, because our defensive line could really use a boost right about now! Askew was a two time high school All American...he played 3 seasons at Mich St and started in every game his junior season putting up some fine numbers for a DT... Mel Kiper predicted that he would be drafted in the first two rounds but slid to the Bengals later.. I dont think thats a reach....He has been injured this year... first the ankle and then the hamstring.. it happens...he's still one of the youngest bengals at 23... he a work in progress .. not many DT come into the league and make any impact whatsoever initially... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ox Posted November 27, 2005 Report Share Posted November 27, 2005 Shaun Smith is a absolute monster.....He is better than Thorton and Robinson combined.You know I hope you're right. The thing is, the fascination with Smith is basically the same as with the back up QB. When your starter isn't satisfying, the backup is alwys the most popular guy on the field. I think it's the same with Shaun and our D Line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbusbengal Posted November 27, 2005 Report Share Posted November 27, 2005 The thing is, the fascination with Smith is basically the same as with the back up QB. When your starter isn't satisfying, the backup is alwys the most popular guy on the field. I think it's the same with Shaun and our D Line.I was just thinking the same thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ29 Posted November 27, 2005 Report Share Posted November 27, 2005 For all of you saying that Robinson is better than JT aren't watching the games. Robinson is absolutely USELESS on the goal line. I'd rather put Shayne in there. He stands straight up on the goal line, and if you do that on the goal line, you might as well run to the back of the endzone and wait for the other teams running back to dunk the ball in your face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alleycat Posted November 27, 2005 Report Share Posted November 27, 2005 I think Billy was talking about Stacey Andrews, and the recent idea to put him on the D-line. Marvin addressed Askew this weak and his lack of playing, saying it was a "maturity" problem. He's actually still very young (22-23). However, if maturity really means "desire," his future's in trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schweinhart Posted November 27, 2005 Report Share Posted November 27, 2005 If Shaun Smith does today what he did last time vs. Ratbirds, folks are gonna like him a whole more. Looks like he'll be smashing mouths some with back-up guard Brian Rimpf. I definietly like Smith's chances today for a monster game.Askew sure looks the part but so do a lot of DTs who come out of the draft only to never produce on the field. I think that position is charceterized more by determination and half-insane desire than anything else, which seems to make it harder to pick successfully out of the draft. A better course IMO is free agent DT where you got some real proof to go by. The Bengals did well to get B-Rob, but he won't be confused with Corey Simon, Pat Williams, or Jason Ferguson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalboomer7 Posted November 27, 2005 Report Share Posted November 27, 2005 Don't you guys think that if Shaun Smith was so good Marvin would already have him starting Keep telling yourself he's the second coming of Tim Krumrie.I'd like to see Askew just so I know whether or not I need to start a "Askew needs to be cut" thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalindian Posted November 27, 2005 Report Share Posted November 27, 2005 Don't you guys think that if Shaun Smith was so good Marvin would already have him starting Keep telling yourself he's the second coming of Tim Krumrie.I'd like to see Askew just so I know whether or not I need to start a "Askew needs to be cut" thread Seriously! He's the only player we don't have anything on, and it's weird not being able to talk about him because I'm sure a thread has been started on every other player on the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMC Posted November 27, 2005 Report Share Posted November 27, 2005 Askew is inactive again today. Body is activated.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted November 27, 2005 Report Share Posted November 27, 2005 Don't you guys think that if Shaun Smith was so good Marvin would already have him starting Thank you. Thank you a ton.If he is all that AND a bag of chips, why has he not been in before now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbusbengal Posted November 27, 2005 Report Share Posted November 27, 2005 Askew sure looks the part but so do a lot of DTs who come out of the draft only to never produce on the field. I think that position is charceterized more by determination and half-insane desire than anything else, which seems to make it harder to pick successfully out of the draft. A better course IMO is free agent DT where you got some real proof to go by.I absolutely agree. Once you pay a first round defensive player his signing bonus, a lot of them can't manufacture the desire to get beat up every week. I think the Bengals (and Browns) have had a number of those over the last decade or two. Of course, it makes a difference if the player gets to play for a winning team (top draft picks usually don't). The Browns losing linemen went to a winner and turned it around. Now that the Bengals only need a d-lineman or two to be consistent winners, maybe the one we draft will live up to his projected ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted November 27, 2005 Report Share Posted November 27, 2005 i'd like to see an askew sighting just once this season. just to see what all the hype is about on his ability.I can't believe we drafted this guy at all. It was a reach IMO! He could of been had as a free agent afterwards. Who's idea was it in the front office anyway? Any clues? Granted, he's the size you dream of at the position, but his total football experience is exceeded by most senior high schoolers! If you ask me there has to be something wrong about a guy with his dimensions not playing any football growing up. If he doesn't like sports, fine. I understand. I got a friend I work with who's 6-6 and 300+ pounds, and HATES football, basketball, anything ****ball. I don't believe you should try to make him a player anyway. His heart won't be in it. Whur CHad At? Posted 40 minutes ago Shaun Smith is a absolute monster.....He is better than Thorton and Robinson combined.Well it would be nice if that does happen to be the truth, but we really won't know until we see him actually play. Just because he's bigger doesn't mean he's better. Not by a mile! We'll hope for the best, because our defensive line could really use a boost right about now! Askew was a two time high school All American...he played 3 seasons at Mich St and started in every game his junior season putting up some fine numbers for a DT... Mel Kiper predicted that he would be drafted in the first two rounds but slid to the Bengals later.. I dont think thats a reach....He has been injured this year... first the ankle and then the hamstring.. it happens...he's still one of the youngest bengals at 23... he a work in progress .. not many DT come into the league and make any impact whatsoever initially...Doh! You're right. I was thinking of Stacy Andrews who came out of the same draft as Askew. Askew-Andrews. Andrews-Askew. Both over 6-5 and 300 pounds. Especially Andrews. At 350 I dearly hope we do use him more on the defensive line, even though he's officially listed as an offensive lineman.STACY STAYING: The Bengals apparently have no immediate plans to move backup right offensive tackle Stacy Andrews permanently to the defensive line. Andrews, who played just 70 or so snaps at Mississippi before the Bengals took him in the fourth round of the 2004 draft, is practicing well on offense and the coaches don’t want to put too much on his plate. The 350-pound Andrews, along with 340-pound starting right guard Bobbie Williams and other beefy offensive linemen, have been designated as emergency backups on goal-line situations. Sometimes they help out in practice, but they would apparently only be used in a game if one of the two or three active defensive tackles went down.Andrews played just 70 or so snaps at Mississippi, and we draft him as a 4th rounder is the "reach" I was referring to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 I don't think Smith played any better than Robinson would have played on Sunday. I wasn't upset with his performance, but it was nothing to smile about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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