Round 4 Pick 2/3: Tyler Shelvin, DT, LSU

[HoosierCat]

4th round second pick thread.

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5 picks to go

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TDN:

A 5-star recruit in 2017, LSU defensive lineman Tyler Shelvin redshirted his first year on campus, found some playing time as a redshirt freshman in 2018, and showcased his dominant run-stopping ability as a starter in 2019 before opting out of the 2020 season. Shelvin is a straightforward evaluation—he’s a massive interior defensive lineman who is outstanding against the run but doesn’t offer much on passing downs outside of pushing the pocket. Shelvin isn’t a dynamic run defender simply because he’s big and strong, he knows how to fit his hands, find the football, disengage, and finish. Shelvin plays with tremendous urgency on every snap and competes hard in pursuit despite limited range. He’s dominant against single blocks and more than holds his own against doubles. For a guy who is going to be asked to fill an unselfish role in the NFL, he embraces taking on blocks, absorbing double teams, eating space, and keeping the second-level clean. Shelvin has the makings of a dominant run-stuffing 3-4 nose tackle or 4-3 one-technique, but his value is limited to running downs. 

Ideal Role: Early-down run defender.

Scheme Fit: 3-4 nose tackle, 4-3 1-technique.

[GapControl]

2 minutes ago, HoosierCat said:

TDN:

A 5-star recruit in 2017, LSU defensive lineman Tyler Shelvin redshirted his first year on campus, found some playing time as a redshirt freshman in 2018, and showcased his dominant run-stopping ability as a starter in 2019 before opting out of the 2020 season. Shelvin is a straightforward evaluation—he’s a massive interior defensive lineman who is outstanding against the run but doesn’t offer much on passing downs outside of pushing the pocket. Shelvin isn’t a dynamic run defender simply because he’s big and strong, he knows how to fit his hands, find the football, disengage, and finish. Shelvin plays with tremendous urgency on every snap and competes hard in pursuit despite limited range. He’s dominant against single blocks and more than holds his own against doubles. For a guy who is going to be asked to fill an unselfish role in the NFL, he embraces taking on blocks, absorbing double teams, eating space, and keeping the second-level clean. Shelvin has the makings of a dominant run-stuffing 3-4 nose tackle or 4-3 one-technique, but his value is limited to running downs. 

Ideal Role: Early-down run defender.

Scheme Fit: 3-4 nose tackle, 4-3 1-technique.

Pat Sims 2.0

[HoosierCat]

 

[redsbengalsbucks]

Bad pick

[TJJackson]

sux

New Guy, please purchase extra life and disability insurance

[redsbengalsbucks]

If they dont get Forsyth with this last fourth round pick, the trade back is a bust

[HoosierCat]

Yup.

 

[TJJackson]

really, really pissed

once again.......they had one job.    one job

they Brownfamilyed it

just gawdWFUL

[HoosierCat]

 

[membengal]

3 hours ago, TJJackson said:

really, really pissed

once again.......they had one job.    one job

they Brownfamilyed it

just gawdWFUL

God,  you are just the worst on these days. 
 

I love this pick. A fucking beast on the d-line in a room that needed it.

[membengal]

TJ: this guy fucking sucks, kill me now.

Bill belichick:

 

[Stripes]

This is my favorite pick of Day 3.

[HoosierCat]

Another guy who had a good 2019 and had some buzz as a day1 or 2 pick, then had a bad 2020 and dropped. Legit steal potential.

[membengal]

He’s an absolute beast and now has Reader as a mentor. I am thrilled.

[membengal]

He didn’t have a bad 2020, he opted out. 

[membengal]

 

[volcom69]

1 hour ago, membengal said:

God,  you are just the worst on these days. 
 

I love this pick. A fucking beast on the d-line in a room that needed it.

Yup awesome pick had a chance to be a first round pick if he did not opt out.

[membengal]

He’s a fire hydrant with an attitude. Cant move him. Go find some of the tape of his battles with Landon Dickerson in 2019. Getting him in a room with Reader is going to be so helpful. This might be my favorite pick (after chase).

[GapControl]

I was hoping for OT/OV but I am liking what is on this big DT.  Sometimes there’s a shock factor during the draft but getting the background on a guy can change your view. Shelvin also played with Burrow.  They are getting the talent that surrounds The Talent.  It’s been a long time since anytime worried about our interior defensive line save Geno.  The last 2 years especially are trying to change it.  Pat Sims at one time was our 3rd option at nose... that’s not bad for depth 

[GapControl]

From Hobson:

“...starts with that. We have to improve in that area," Anarumo said. "When you get a guy who's as big as Tyler is, and you can pair him with D.J. Reader, Larry Ogunjobi, Mike Daniels, Renell Wren, Josh Tupou and the rest, you have a formidable front there."

If the fourth round is the face of the draft, then the 6-5, 350-pound Shelvin is the face of the round. You may remember him carrying Burrow off the field after one of those 2019 wins. LSU defensive analyst Kevin Coyle, a long-time former Bengals secondary coach, says Shelvin has the type of talent that can contribute right away in a rotation. Dominant, he says. Dominant on first and second down.

[GapControl]

The NFL is all about relationships.  Coyle coaching at LSU , Big Willie training Cameron... it’s why Joe burrow. like tom Brady, is going to make Cincy a PLCs to be.  He attracts talent like Rief and Chase wearing orang black and white shoes to the draft.  

[membengal]

I mean...what ever were the Bengals thinking? Their run D was perfect last year - why try to improve perfection?

Oh. Wait.

In any event:

 

[AMPHAR]

Landon Dickerson in a couple of those Shelvin highlights.    People would have killed for Dickerson pre draft.

Keep in mind its just highlight tape so I'm sure there are some Dickerson highlight reals showing the opposite.

Really just confirmation of how he performed against quality competition.