3rd Round: Jordan Willis, DE, Kansas State

[HoosierCat]

The Youngstown State kid?

[redsbengalsbucks]

OL help now!

[rwalling]

If the 3rd rounder weighs less than 270, it's a bad pick.

[HoosierCat]

 

[BengalszoneBilly]

49 minutes ago, redsbengalsbucks said:

OL help now!

Any lineman now!

[kingwilly]

OK, they turn to the line. Elflein? Dawkins? 

WhoDey! 

[rwalling]

The strategy (offense first) looks like it's going to work.  Most of the best available are LB and D-Line.

[HoosierCat]

7 minutes ago, rwalling said:

The strategy (offense first) looks like it's going to work.  Most of the best available are LB and D-Line.

SHHHHH! Bengals are dumb and don't know what they're doing. #sarcasm

[HoosierCat]

Best center taken by Zim three picks ahead of Cincy. Somewhere, TJ weeps...

[ShulaSteakhouse]

10 minutes ago, HoosierCat said:

SHHHHH! Bengals are dumb and don't know what they're doing. #sarcasm

Yes almost 30 years without a single playoff game victory oozes confidence.

[HoosierCat]

1 minute ago, ShulaSteakhouse said:

Yes almost 30 years without a single playoff game victory oozes confidence.

31 other teams, take your pick.

[HoosierCat]

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/jordan-willis?id=2557884

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ANALYSIS

STRENGTHS

 Good eyes vs. zone read; sees mesh point clearly. Quick responder once he diagnoses the action. Excellent change of direction ability to stay in the hunt. Finishes tackles, rarely allowing runners to escape grasp. Pursuit will not stop until the whistle blows. Proficient with hands. Hands are strong and control the action. Well-schooled with excellent stack-and-shed ability. Good strength in base and plays with adequate contact balance. Stays clean setting edge while spying into backfield. Uses blockers' forward lean against them, sends them tumbling forward. Arm over is a pet move that gives him early wins. Track-stance pass rusher who comes out of the blocks with decent burst to the edge. Hard worker. Productive in sacks and forced fumbles over final two seasons at KSU.

WEAKNESSES

 Straight-liner mover. Very deliberate as a pass rusher. Shows rush moves early and rarely deviates from original track. One-speed rusher lacking dynamic qualities to turn corner for tight loops. Could get flattened in the rush arc due to hip tightness. Timing of hands need work as he tends to shoot prematurely, opening himself up to counter moves. Rarely makes tackles redirect inside with sharp counters. Tackles often come at angles. Might need to move to outside linebacker on next level. 

DRAFT PROJECTION

 Round 2

NFL COMPARISON

 Kyle Emanuel

BOTTOM LINE

 Productive three-year starter who plays with desired motor from whistle to whistle. Willis is a stack-and-shed edge defender with good play strength and quality hand work at the point of attack. He will need more creativity to be an effective NFL pass rusher, but he should be able to earn a roster spot and work his way up the pecking order in either a 3-4 or 4-3 scheme.

 

[ShulaSteakhouse]

Gonna be an OLB here I'm guessing.  

[kingwilly]

Great pick. This draft is shaping up nicely. 

[HoosierCat]

 

[HoosierCat]

 

[GapControl]

It's a solid pick.  Hoped we could've gotten Eflein.

[AMPHAR]

19 minutes ago, ShulaSteakhouse said:

Yes almost 30 years without a single playoff game victory oozes confidence.

Last decade it wasn't for lack of talent.  

[AMPHAR]

Some had him going 1st round.  I know a bunch had him going 2nd to Bengals.  

Basically bengals are killing it. 

[kingwilly]

37 minutes ago, AMPHAR said:

Some had him going 1st round.  I know a bunch had him going 2nd to Bengals.  

Basically bengals are killing it. 

Yes, they are. This draft has flipped my outlook for 2017 season. 

[COB]

Dude looks huge.  And tested at the combine the same as Clowney?  My head's spinning.

if he can develop, imagine Dunlap on one side and a Clowney clone on the other?

[kingwilly]

1 minute ago, COB said:

Dude looks huge.  And tested at the combine the same as Clowney?  My head's spinning.

if he can develop, imagine Dunlap on one side and a Clowney clone on the other?

This guy is as big of a steal as Mixon. 

[AMPHAR]

He will probably pick up the Margus Hunt interior rush role

[ShulaSteakhouse]

8 minutes ago, COB said:

Dude looks huge.  And tested at the combine the same as Clowney?  My head's spinning.

if he can develop, imagine Dunlap on one side and a Clowney clone on the other?

"Develop" is the key, because he was awful at the Senior Bowl, doesn't project to be much of a coverage or run-stopping LB, and has under-developed pass rushing skills. 

He dropped to the 3rd round for a reason.  Just keepin' it real.

[COB]

9 minutes ago, ShulaSteakhouse said:

 

He dropped to the 3rd round for a reason.  Just keepin' it real.

Understood.  The stuff I read about him definitely said he's got tools, just needs to develop into an NFL starter.