gregcook68 Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 reminds me of all of the highly exposed QBs that the NFL draft deemed to be inadequate for the NFL... Doug Flutie, Ty Detmer, on and on. When this many teams pass on you in spite of incredible amounts of game tape, they're not wrong...I'm not a huge Dalton fan, but hope that the Bengals figure out how to sign him without hamstringing the teamKenny Anderson likes him and has been working with him. That's good enough for me until the preseason! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wraith Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 Dalton all over again. Put the heat on and see if this kid falls apart like Andy. Maybe that will be the difference between them.Lewis wants Dalton signed before the season starts COB. If he gets his way, we don't have a shot for years to come! Let me know if you decide to change teams rather than root for knowing defeat! I'll go with you!!Yeah you are right, with Andy Dalton entering his 4th season he is clearly maxxed out and with Andy Dalton at the helm we might as well forfeit every game because don't have a chance....In fact Let's all call down to Mike Brown and demand his surrender. Comeon! Meier's has a good supply of torches and pitchforks right now let's get 'em. Run the whole lot of them out of town!If you can't stand to root for this division winning team any more then don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted May 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 FWIW Greg is just pulling COBs chain (and stop that! ) he is a big Andy supporter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregcook68 Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 FWIW Greg is just pulling COBs chain (and stop that! :)/>/> ) he is a big Andy supporter.;)/> Just showing a fellow member a little love and support! No personal disrespect displayed whatsoever, as promised! :)/>Seriously, I've always been a fan of Kenny Anderson, agree with many that he has HOF credentials, and if he supports the McCarron pick, so do I! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wraith Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 My apologies I took your post at face value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregcook68 Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 My apologies I took your post at face value.Apologies not necessary. Just trying to spread the love around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volcom69 Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 Just saw this stat over the last 2 years throws of 25 or more yards, AJ is 54.7% completion, 23.8 yards per attempt, 17 TDs and 0 ints. Wow that's pretty good, and I know they say he has a week arm, but his arm sounds good with those numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 AJ 2 AJ 4 6? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingwilly Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 All things leveled out, McCarron is probably better than Andy. Poise and composure are fully there. Arm is a bit better, probably better at reading D's. I respect that the team is loyal to Dalton, and that Andy has done well to earn that loyalty but if they said it was open competition to be the starter, I'm not sure Dalton beats out McCarron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregcook68 Posted May 12, 2014 Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 All things leveled out, McCarron is probably better than Andy. Poise and composure are fully there. Arm is a bit better, probably better at reading D's. I respect that the team is loyal to Dalton, and that Andy has done well to earn that loyalty but if they said it was open competition to be the starter, I'm not sure Dalton beats out McCarron.Lewis usually gets his way with Brown and he wants Dalton signed before the season starts. If that happens, the only way McCarron starts is if he beats out Campbell as the backup and Dalton gets hurt.I respect your opinion, but how can you come to a conclusion that McCarron is better than Dalton when he hasn't even stepped on the practice field yet and would go against a 3 year player who just set 2 franchise records for the Bengals?I can understand if Dalton doesn't sign, McCarron beats out Campbell in preseason as backup, even under Hue's offense, Dalton regresses like Sanchez did, McCarron takes over and excels, THEN, at that point, I would agree that he's better and earned a spot.Dalton is in the same position Matt Ryan was in 2012, trying to win his first playoff game in his 4th attempt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingwilly Posted May 12, 2014 Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 All things leveled out, McCarron is probably better than Andy. Poise and composure are fully there. Arm is a bit better, probably better at reading D's. I respect that the team is loyal to Dalton, and that Andy has done well to earn that loyalty but if they said it was open competition to be the starter, I'm not sure Dalton beats out McCarron.Lewis usually gets his way with Brown and he wants Dalton signed before the season starts. If that happens, the only way McCarron starts is if he beats out Campbell as the backup and Dalton gets hurt.I respect your opinion, but how can you come to a conclusion that McCarron is better than Dalton when he hasn't even stepped on the practice field yet and would go against a 3 year player who just set 2 franchise records for the Bengals?I can understand if Dalton doesn't sign, McCarron beats out Campbell in preseason as backup, even under Hue's offense, Dalton regresses like Sanchez did, McCarron takes over and excels, THEN, at that point, I would agree that he's better and earned a spot.Dalton is in the same position Matt Ryan was in 2012, trying to win his first playoff game in his 4th attempt.Dalton is under contract for 2014. He's starting unless he gets hurt. I base my opinioon on several factors. My take is just as valid as those who think Dalton will get extended and win a playoff game, speculation based on supposition and experience. If it's an intellectually and emotionally honest evaluation, they would open it up and truly see what they've got. Andy has won the right to be top dog but not without challenge. Until he wins his playoff game, and delivered in big games, he's subject to challenges, this is the way of sport and competition. To think otherwise begs stagnation and puts the team in a very bad position. The underlying point is they will NOT be opening up the QB spot to competition. It's Dalton's job. The question then centers on why they think Dalton shouldn't face real competition, and why they should extend him for massive money while options that might actually be better are now in the fold? They have no issue doing this with spots like DE and such, why not QB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregcook68 Posted May 12, 2014 Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 All things leveled out, McCarron is probably better than Andy. Poise and composure are fully there. Arm is a bit better, probably better at reading D's. I respect that the team is loyal to Dalton, and that Andy has done well to earn that loyalty but if they said it was open competition to be the starter, I'm not sure Dalton beats out McCarron.Lewis usually gets his way with Brown and he wants Dalton signed before the season starts. If that happens, the only way McCarron starts is if he beats out Campbell as the backup and Dalton gets hurt.I respect your opinion, but how can you come to a conclusion that McCarron is better than Dalton when he hasn't even stepped on the practice field yet and would go against a 3 year player who just set 2 franchise records for the Bengals?I can understand if Dalton doesn't sign, McCarron beats out Campbell in preseason as backup, even under Hue's offense, Dalton regresses like Sanchez did, McCarron takes over and excels, THEN, at that point, I would agree that he's better and earned a spot.Dalton is in the same position Matt Ryan was in 2012, trying to win his first playoff game in his 4th attempt.Dalton is under contract for 2014. He's starting unless he gets hurt. I base my opinioon on several factors. My take is just as valid as those who think Dalton will get extended and win a playoff game, speculation based on supposition and experience. If it's an intellectually and emotionally honest evaluation, they would open it up and truly see what they've got. Andy has won the right to be top dog but not without challenge. Until he wins his playoff game, and delivered in big games, he's subject to challenges, this is the way of sport and competition. To think otherwise begs stagnation and puts the team in a very bad position. The underlying point is they will NOT be opening up the QB spot to competition. It's Dalton's job. The question then centers on why they think Dalton shouldn't face real competition, and why they should extend him for massive money while options that might actually be better are now in the fold? They have no issue doing this with spots like DE and such, why not QB?Again, Lewis wants him signed/extended to a multi year deal BEFORE the season starts!I have no clue why the coaches make the choices and decisions they do, nor am I qualified to question them.Probably they are sticking with Dalton for the same reason Atlanta is sticking with Ryan after only 1 playoff win in 6 seasons and a 4-12 year last year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingwilly Posted May 12, 2014 Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 Ah fuck it, "not qualified to question them"... Stuff it. I am qualified. Deal with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted May 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 The underlying point is they will NOT be opening up the QB spot to competition. It's Dalton's job. The question then centers on why they think Dalton shouldn't face real competition, and why they should extend him for massive money while options that might actually be better are now in the fold?Because they don't know what the f*** they are doing. The organization is paralyzed. It can't make a decision whether to extend Dalton or not and the result is the half-assed offseason we've seen. Drafting McCarron is just another attempt to square a circle and avoid making the tough decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted May 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 McCarron: I was always hurt at Alabama./>http://www.bengals.com/media-lounge/videos/Cincinnati-Bengals-quarterback-AJ-McCarron-I-wasnt-healthy-at-Alabama/af2455bc-33c5-4bf6-aad7-8b7b88e6859eWell, thanks AJ, that certainly increases my confidence level...not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted May 12, 2014 Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 Ah fuck it, "not qualified to question them"... Stuff it. I am qualified. Deal with it.In the context of a fan message board, yep, we're all qualified Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregcook68 Posted May 12, 2014 Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 Ah fuck it, "not qualified to question them"... Stuff it. I am qualified. Deal with it.Personal attack!!! I never said you WEREN'T qualified king dog!That's the best you can do is attack me just because I admit I'm not qualified????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregcook68 Posted May 12, 2014 Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 Ah fuck it, "not qualified to question them"... Stuff it. I am qualified. Deal with it.In the context of a fan message board, yep, we're all qualifiedI speak for myself, I'm not! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregcook68 Posted May 12, 2014 Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 The underlying point is they will NOT be opening up the QB spot to competition. It's Dalton's job. The question then centers on why they think Dalton shouldn't face real competition, and why they should extend him for massive money while options that might actually be better are now in the fold?Because they don't know what the f*** they are doing. The organization is paralyzed. It can't make a decision whether to extend Dalton or not and the result is the half-assed offseason we've seen. Drafting McCarron is just another attempt to square a circle and avoid making the tough decisions.It's time to make some noise!! I say we bring back the 90s and picket at the stadium!!! Heck even I'm qualified to carry a sign!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted May 12, 2014 Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 What baffles me is hearing fans think that somehow McCarron is going to replace Dalton this season.The ONLY way Dalton gets shelved for McCarron is if an injury occurs. That's it.Does anyone really think the intent was to draft a QB to replace Dalton only to watch the team pass up all the top end (I say that lightly) QB's ??Yeah, lets pass on Bridgewater in the hopes of drafting McCarron in the 5th round to replace the guy that has done things no other QB in franchise history has done. Wow, great plan. Smells like a championship to me.I'm no worse off now than I was before the draft in regards to the QB spot.What I am, is hopeful the team waits until after the season to extend Dalton, but i'm not as irritated with Dalton as some are.AGAIN, that doesn't mean that he's the bestest ever or has no room to improve, because he does. I just don't view him as Akili Smith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyline Posted May 12, 2014 Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 What baffles me is hearing fans think that somehow McCarron is going to replace Dalton this season.The ONLY way Dalton gets shelved for McCarron is if an injury occurs. That's it.Yes. Bengals fans baffle me on a regular basis...Dalton is the starter. And there are a ton of teams around the league who would welcome him as THEIR starter in a heartbeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregcook68 Posted May 12, 2014 Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 The underlying point is they will NOT be opening up the QB spot to competition. It's Dalton's job. The question then centers on why they think Dalton shouldn't face real competition, and why they should extend him for massive money while options that might actually be better are now in the fold?Because they don't know what the f*** they are doing. The organization is paralyzed. It can't make a decision whether to extend Dalton or not and the result is the half-assed offseason we've seen. Drafting McCarron is just another attempt to square a circle and avoid making the tough decisions.Now that the draft is over, I fully expect them to start the negotiation process with Dalton. Lewis wants him signed and Brown usually goes along. Where's the confusion? Whether one agrees with it or not, there's a lot of negotiation time between now and the start of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottishbengal Posted May 12, 2014 Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 And there are a ton of teams around the league who would welcome him as THEIR starter in a heartbeat.But how many of those teams would be willing to stump up the kid of $$ that Dalton's agent will no doubt be asking for ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted May 12, 2014 Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 Well, let me back track a bit.The only way McCarron starts this year is if BOTH Dalton and Campbell get injured.Plenty of teams would be willing to pay Dalton and some maybe more than the Bengals.Why ?? Because he's a QB that has shown the ability to take his team to the playoffs 3 straight seasons.Any guesses what happens when a QB does that ?? Yep, he gets paid a sh*tload of cash to keep playing.He's going to get paid a sh*tload of cash here or somewhere else to be the starting QB.Argue all anyone likes about whether that should be here, but again, to think Dalton should make vet minimum or something is ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregcook68 Posted May 12, 2014 Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 And there are a ton of teams around the league who would welcome him as THEIR starter in a heartbeat.But how many of those teams would be willing to stump up the kid of $$ that Dalton's agent will no doubt be asking for ???Probably more than one would think:Tony Romo - One playoff win in 8 yearsMatt Ryan - One playoff win in 6 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.