HoosierCat Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 Steelers lost their starting center today, Pouncey with torn ACL and MCL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted September 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 Jeebus...Larry Foote lost with ruptured bicep. Steelers are a train wreck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoDey93285 Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 I would like to think that we'll come out with a fire under our ass after this debacle. It would do this team a lot of good to just demolish the Steelers on our field in prime time. We need to see a lot more Giovanni Bernard next week. He was clearly the more effective player today. Obviously, need to cut down on the major mistakes. We blew this game today. Dalton was very good, the pass protection was good, we had the game in hand. The stupid mistakes are what gave Chicago the game. I don't know that I've ever seen a more classic example of us beating ourselves. I have a feeling we'll bounce back next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volcom69 Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 Defense Line needs to dictate in this game, don't give Ben anytime. They just need to play better overall.Would like to see a running game as wellNo stupid turnovers please, I really hope they learned there lesson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingwilly Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 The defense got handed a bag of dog s**t based on the offensive turnovers...That was the game. Even could have overcome the first two but the Sanu fumble was killer.Oh and also, Rey can please be benched or outright cut. Nope. Done now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingwilly Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 Steelers lost their starting center today, Pouncey with torn ACL and MCL.Isn't that the same injury the LSU center we signed as college free agent had suffered.. Ben something....That's not a nice injury. Hard to recover from.Hoping Vontaze is ok this week. Things swell up and hurt way more tomorrow and Tuesday.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted September 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 Wilkerson. Top prospect but never panned out. I was a big fan...oh well.Don't cough the ball up every other play and we win going away next Monday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 Not the end of the world and the Bengals beat the Steelers next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volcom69 Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 Bengals are a much better team then they showed today, but I have to believe the Steelers are not that bad. Who knows but the bengals always makes the games harder then what they need to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
combatbengal Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 My thoughts on the first game and what we need to do to improve for next week’s game!- Wondering why we resigned Maualuga, I don’t see any improvement on his play! Would Vincent Rey be a better fit or do we have someone on the practice squad that would be a better play maker for us?- Orson Charles needs to improve and show us fans why the coaches picked him over Conner!!- I know Giovani Bernard is only a rookie, but I think he needs to be the starter or get more playing time. He had some big runs that got called back because of dumb penalties!!- Green had a good game. Sanu needs to protect the rock! I didn’t see any balls thrown to Tate, was he in the game (other than ST)?- Dre Kirkpatrick needs to be more discipline! His 15 yard penalty resulted in points for the Bears!- We got no sacks! – D line needs to put more pressure on the QB! Tackling wasn’t too bad at all.- DB’s need to cover better.- Adam Jones had a great punt return only to be called back on a stupid penalty!!- It was nice to see Dalton use different assets all day!!So if we’re going to beat the Steelers we need to do the following:- Play a full game of football. Start fast and end the game strong! Tired of just barely getting by teams or just barely losing to teams. Let’s just go out, make a statement and dominate the Steelers!- Focus on time management and time outs! Stop wasting time outs on stupid mistakes!- Protect the ball- Put and keep pressure on Ben all day and do not let him out of the pocket!! DB’s have to cover!!- Avoid mistakes and do not retaliate if someone says or does something to you. We all know tat 99% of the time, the second person gets caught and flagged!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volcom69 Posted September 9, 2013 Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 Just saw that Stevens Howling the steelers RB is out for the year as well with an ACL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted September 9, 2013 Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 I saw improvement in Maualuga's play. I also saw him singlehandedly end the game with an inexplicably stupid loss of discipline. The former justifies his continued presence. The latter justifies his being benched for a quarter or a half or something. I hope Marvin hits him hard somehow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyline Posted September 9, 2013 Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 I saw improvement in Maualuga's play. I also saw him singlehandedly end the game with an inexplicably stupid loss of discipline. The former justifies his continued presence. The latter justifies his being benched for a quarter or a half or something. I hope Marvin hits him hard somehow.It was a stupid play, no doubt. But Kirkpatrick's was just as bad, in my eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted September 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 Just saw that Stevens Howling the steelers RB is out for the year as well with an ACLWhen you posted that, I thought, Dwyer will be back tomorrow. And sure enough...One week ago, the Pittsburgh Steelers wanted nothing more to do with Jonathan Dwyer, but the events on Sunday changed all that.NFL Media's Steve Wyche reported Monday that the running back was expected to re-sign with the Steelers, according to a source with knowledge of the developments, after the team lost LaRod Stephens-Howling for the season with a torn ACL.See, I knew there was a reason I drafted this guy in FF... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted September 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 Was skimming Pitt PG sportwriter Ed Bouchette's twitter feed from yesterday and ran across this gem:Ed Bouchette @EdBouchette 18h#Steelers potentially one score down at 10-2 but fans now streaming out of Heinz Field with 9 minutes to goCan I hear one more time about how the Bengals fan base sucks?I wonder how this will impact the Monday night crowd; usually games at PBS vs. Pitt are half Steeler fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted September 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 Finally, here's Bouchette's thoughts on how fcked the Steelers are with all the injuries:OK, so the #Steelers will re-sign RB Jonathan Dwyer. But they need so much more. Now what do they do? They need to start with their line. This team needs help, especially in pass blocking. Ben Roethlisberger actually looked good despite getting sacked five times. That absolutely cannot continue. If they have to chuck the whole zone blocking scheme and re-sign Max Starks, something’s got to be done before this thing really goes into the dumpster.The Steelers had two healthy halfbacks in Isaac Redman and Felix Jones before recalling Dwyer, who was cut Aug. 31.John Malecki, I'm told, won't be coming back. Cody Wallace, rejected by Tampa Bay and signed last week, could be their next starting center. If they start Kelvin Beachum there, they lose their flexibility with him, especially at tight end. Ugh.Couldn't happen to a nicer team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volcom69 Posted September 9, 2013 Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 Defense needs to play huge in this game esp the D-Line. Calling Atkins, didnt see much of you in the first game now is your time to shine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted September 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 Can it get worse for Pitt? Yes, yes it can.Steelers K Shaun Suisham could miss several weeks with hamstring injury.The first name floated as a possible replacment? Shank Graham.:lmao:/> :lmao:/> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted September 9, 2013 Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 I have a professor that is a die hard Steelers fan and listening to him talk was just amusing.Quick to bash the Bengals fan base and then followed that up with built in excuses for his team this year.It's a good thing he's fun to listen to in regards to the topic being taught !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COB Posted September 9, 2013 Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 The Steelers are a dumpster fire. Only one solution - Some tough talk from their coach about how they'll have to chew on it for a while, own it, experience it, then come out and play Steeler football!He's a typical example of NFL coaches - If you have a quarterback you are some kind of genius. If you don't have a quarterback, you can't coach (until you get hired as an assistant again by a team that does have a quarterback). No one knows this better than Cowher. He struggled to find a guy, finally did, won a Super Bowl and got the hell out for good. The Steelers coach inherited a quarterback. Nothing less, nothing more. When Ben retires, he should probably do the same.Which brings me to Bellicheck. Dude was mediocre at Cleveland. Goes to New England, his immobile statue gets hurt and Brady comes in. Bellicheck wasn't even playing the guy until injuries forced it. Brady turns out to be about the best quarterback the league has seen in years, and Bellicheck is considered some kind of mad scientist. Again, bottom line - when Brady retires, Bellicheck should, and probably will, do the same. All these injuries to the Steelers? It hurts them, but you know what? They still have a chance. And they still have a chance for one reason - Ben Roethlisberger. He can sling it, he can win you games. Which is my big complaint about our Dilfer 2.0. He's just not that guy who can carry a team through difficult times. Those guys don't grow on trees (unless you're Indianapolis), so we're fully invested in Andy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyline Posted September 9, 2013 Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 The Steelers coach inherited a quarterback. Nothing less, nothing more. When Ben retires, he should probably do the same.This is lazy. Yes, Ben has an amazing skill set that has definitely won them some games.But they won Super Bowls thanks to defense and the ability to run the ball. Ben was just along for the ride:2005 - 9/21 - 0 TD - 2 INT - 22.6 QB Rating - W - They actually WON this game?2008 - 21/30 - 1 TD - 1 INT - 93.2 QB Rating - W - Not bad. Not spectacular.2010 - 25/40 - 2 TD - 2 INT - 77.4 QB Rating - L - Again, pretty meh overall.Do we honestly think Dalton isn't capable of this kind of performance? No, he hasn't shown well yet in the playoffs. He also hasn't been surrounded by the same teams that Woerthlisberger has had the privelege of playing with. Let's see what happens this year before declaring that we know his ultimate ceiling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted September 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 The Steelers are a dumpster fire. Only one solution - Some tough talk from their coach about how they'll have to chew on it for a while, own it, experience it, then come out and play Steeler football!And they might be able to do that in, oh, 2015 or so. I'm not going to write the Steelers' epitaph after one week, but there were plenty of people questioning this team coming into the year. Pittsburgh has had cap issues the last couple of years, which has led to a loss of talent, and their last few drafts have been "mehs." Quick, can you name one bona-fide, up-and-coming star on the Pitt roster? Yeah, me neither. Polamulu and Big Jen are all-pros, but they are 32 and 31 respectively and they can't do it alone.That said, I expect Monday night to be a dogfight. The Bengals are p*ssed and the Steelers are desperate. Pitt hasn't lost its first two games since 2002 (after which they proceeded to go 10-3-1); the Bengals have only lost their first two once in the past 10 seasons (the horrid 2008 campaign). But in this case I think p*ssed beats desperate. Since 2008, the Bengals have dropped three of four openers. Each of those times they have bounced back strongly no matter the caliber of the competition. in 2009 they smashed GB, the eventual NFCN champ, 31-24. In 2010 they dealt a 15-10 loss to Baltimore, one of only four Balti losses that year. And last year they wrecked Cleveland in a 34-27 game that wasn't that close.I'm thinking Bengals 27, Steelers 17. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volcom69 Posted September 9, 2013 Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 I really feel like defense needs to dictate this game from the start. They played great run defense, but there pass defense was bad. I'm hoping they can pressure Ben all night and make him, make mistakes. I'm just ready for this defense to take over the season!Would love to see more running with Bernard, and for Andy to continue where he left off. I love the 2 TE sets, it worked well yesterday. Offense line continue to pass protect like they did, but run blocking needs to improve.No mistakes, when mistakes are made this team has a hard time coming back from them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted September 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 No mistakes, when mistakes are made this team has a hard time coming back from them.Sorry volcom, but I have to disagree. One thing that stood out at me was how resilient they were yesterday. For example, one thing that I think got lost due to Green's second pick was that throw came on a first and 10 that they picked up after a Cook false start pushed them back to a first and 15 three plays earlier. On their opening drive of the third quarter (which ended in a TD) they fought their way out of a first and 20 prompted by a Gilligan hold. That score put them up 21-10 in the third despite losing the turnover battle 0-2 in the first half.The issue wasn't that they couldn't come back from mistakes, it was that they couldn't stop making fresh ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted September 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 Oh, in case anyone was wondering the Bengals are 7 point favorites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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