Lewis must go

[cincyhokie]

Not looking to change MLB huh ??

You mean you don't want to replace the man who said the UDFA rookie has a better grasp on things than he did ??

Yeah, that would suck...

Lack of accountability starts from the top down. It's the Bengal way.

Well, to be fair, replace Rey with...who? If Howard hadn't gotten hurt, I think Rey would already be second string, but as is next year's MLB is currently playing WILL. And given how well he's doing it's tough to move him. I guess they could try Muck but remember, he didn't even make the final cut.

Not trying to defend Rey's play at all here, just saying they're basically screwed right now.

Play Muckleroy at MLB. The continued acceptance of poor play at a key position is toxic for a starting unit.

[volcom69]

Not looking to change MLB huh ??

You mean you don't want to replace the man who said the UDFA rookie has a better grasp on things than he did ??

Yeah, that would suck...

Lack of accountability starts from the top down. It's the Bengal way.

Well, to be fair, replace Rey with...who? If Howard hadn't gotten hurt, I think Rey would already be second string, but as is next year's MLB is currently playing WILL. And given how well he's doing it's tough to move him. I guess they could try Muck but remember, he didn't even make the final cut.

Not trying to defend Rey's play at all here, just saying they're basically screwed right now.

Who gives a crap who they put in can it really be any worse? I mean really when is Marvin going to realize when guys don't play we'll maybe it's time for a change. I don't care if he has a big name or big reputation at some point enough is enough. Hell what's he worried about not like he's on the hot seat or anything. He could put a WR in there at this point and Mike Brown wouldn't know any better, he'll maybe that guy could cover the middle of the field!

[ShulaSteakhouse]

Until fans quit buying tickets, you'll get more of the same. That is the one thing that drives Brown to at least make some sort of major change to his operation, although it's usually just a surface move to appease angry lemmings who routinely buy-up tickets to tailgate (i.e. let Bratkowski go, hire Arena Ball coach). I'm not sure they'll be on local TV more than once or twice the rest of the season either.

It IS possible a HC who can manage a roster better and makes demands of Brown to make the right personnel moves year in and year out, would make a difference.

Marvin isn't that guy, he's just another Paul Alexander-type, comfy, bored, not very good at what he does, going through the motions, happy to have a job with an overly loyal owner.

[volcom69]

Yep I agree everybody there is way to comfortable, and with that changes are not made. What's the point in making changes if nobody is feeling the heat?

[HoosierCat]

Who gives a crap who they put in can it really be any worse? I mean really when is Marvin going to realize when guys don't play we'll maybe it's time for a change.

If you don't think Marvin knows that, then I'm not sure what team you've been watching. The "put him in he can't be any worse theory" has been on full display at safety and wide receiver. Since the end of last season, safety has gone from Crocker to Mays to Miles to Clements and back to Crocker. Fat lot of good that did. WR is even worse: Simpson, Caldwell, Tate, Binns, Hawkins, Whalen and two weeks from now, who knows? It could be frickin' Brian Robiskie. You may not agree with Marvin's call to keep playing Rey, but I have no doubt he'd shelve him if he had any hope Muck would be an improvement.

[volcom69]

Yea maybe so who knows anymore, I guess frustration has now set in lol.

[skyline]

I hear Bill Cowher's available

[BengalszoneBilly]

Yea maybe so who knows anymore, I guess frustration has now set in lol.

My frustration started back in '68. It seems to be my football version of masochistic crack.

[volcom69]

I hear Bill Cowher's available

Whats funny is i have seen in other threads about how Andy Reid is a horrible coach. Heres my thing at least Andy Reid got the Eagles to a superbowl, at least he took them to how many NFC Championship games, that is so much more then Marvin has ever done with this team. I live in PA so i hear, and see alot of eagles stuff, and yea right now his team might be stuggling, but i believe he would be a better coach then Marvin is here. Thats not saying i want Reid, but what im saying is there is a guy taking alot of crap about his coaching job, he has been there since 1999, and look at everything he did for that team!! Heres Marvin Lewis been here for what 11 years now, and what has he done a couple 4 win seasons, alot 8-8 seasons, a couple playoff spots only to go home right away, and yet he gets extentions after extensions...how the hell does he still have a job!!

[kingwilly]

I hear Bill Cowher's available

Whats funny is i have seen in other threads about how Andy Reid is a horrible coach. Heres my thing at least Andy Reid got the Eagles to a superbowl, at least he took them to how many NFC Championship games, that is so much more then Marvin has ever done with this team. I live in PA so i hear, and see alot of eagles stuff, and yea right now his team might be stuggling, but i believe he would be a better coach then Marvin is here. Thats not saying i want Reid, but what im saying is there is a guy taking alot of crap about his coaching job, he has been there since 1999, and look at everything he did for that team!! Heres Marvin Lewis been here for what 11 years now, and what has he done a couple 4 win seasons, alot 8-8 seasons, a couple playoff spots only to go home right away, and yet he gets extentions after extensions...how the hell does he still have a job!!

It boils down to a guy like Reid, who infuriates the Eagles fans, is twice the coach that ML is. Thats the way I read it. Can't disagree.

Look, all coaches have their warts and quirks... But in this case it seems ML is the elephant man with Tourettes.

[volcom69]

Another thing I guess I'm trying to say Is at the start of the season the Eagles owner put Reid on the hot seat, because of an 8-8 season, but Lewis had a 4 win season and he gets an extention! That to me is a joke! They are so used to winning that 8-8 is a failure, but here an 8-8 season is a success. I just brought it up because I remember reading in another Lewis sucks thread that Andy was a horrible coach. I'm just saying I only wish Marvin had the winning seasons like Reid has had, and we could be complaining about 1 bad season instead of alot of bad seasons.

[ArmyBengal]

Apparently we are all just stupid because according to ML, everyone else around Rey must play better and he doesn't deserve the criticism he has been getting from everyone.

The front 4 ahead of Rey are the strongest part of the defense and Burfict is a better player already.

So ML must be talking about Manny Lawson in regard to those around Rey playing better.

Hey Manny Lawson, your coach thinks you suck. Be prepared to be replaced.

Glad we were able to clear that one up.

Get ready to see Rey making more tackles from his back.

Apparently, he's that awesome.

[HoosierCat]

Apparently we are all just stupid because according to ML, everyone else around Rey must play better and he doesn't deserve the criticism he has been getting from everyone.

The front 4 ahead of Rey are the strongest part of the defense and Burfict is a better player already.

So ML must be talking about Manny Lawson in regard to those around Rey playing better.

Hey Manny Lawson, your coach thinks you suck. Be prepared to be replaced.

Glad we were able to clear that one up.

Get ready to see Rey making more tackles from his back.

Apparently, he's that awesome.

Actually, PFF grades Burfict out almost as poorly as Rey Sunday. Robinson sucked too.

/>https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/10/23/refo-steelers-bengals-week-7/

[ArmyBengal]

Apparently we are all just stupid because according to ML, everyone else around Rey must play better and he doesn't deserve the criticism he has been getting from everyone.

The front 4 ahead of Rey are the strongest part of the defense and Burfict is a better player already.

So ML must be talking about Manny Lawson in regard to those around Rey playing better.

Hey Manny Lawson, your coach thinks you suck. Be prepared to be replaced.

Glad we were able to clear that one up.

Get ready to see Rey making more tackles from his back.

Apparently, he's that awesome.

Actually, PFF grades Burfict out almost as poorly as Rey Sunday. Robinson sucked too.

/>https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/10/23/refo-steelers-bengals-week-7/

And even with that, Rey still is f*cking abysmal. They even think that with continued reading of the link.

Not surprising. Maybe Marvin should take a look at that website.

No wait a minute, no one knows linebackers like Marvin Lewis according to him, so we are back to being stupid.

[volcom69]

Woohoo I guess that means Skuta will be playing more, can't wait!

[HoosierCat]

I rally can't disagree with Marvin, Army. He certainly wasn't praising Maualuga. In fact, he specifically called him out for blowing his assignment and allowing the backbreaking rush that let the Steelers run out the clock. But Lewis is right that the Rey-hate is overshadowing the fact that the entire defense is playing poorly. Burfict had a very mixed game, Lawson barely played and the Bengals' best DB was Mike Wallace. Toothlessburger had all day to throw and our alleged strength, the defensive line, was beaten in the trenches by a banged-up Pitt o-line and got run over by some no-name third string RB.

Right now we've got one blue-chip defender, Geno Atkins. Then we got two or three guys like Dunlap, Burfict and maybe MJ who can be, but aren't always, difference-makers. The rest of the squad ranges from average/servicable (Nelson, Peko, Hall) to poor (Maualuga) to garbage (Mays).

In the end, the blame has to go back to Lewis. He bought the groceries, he's coaching these guys and the majority don't have the skills or discipline to do the job. Problem is that with nine games left it's too late to do much about it now.

[COB]

I rally can't disagree with Marvin, Army. He certainly wasn't praising Maualuga. In fact, he specifically called him out for blowing his assignment and allowing the backbreaking rush that let the Steelers run out the clock. But Lewis is right that the Rey-hate is overshadowing the fact that the entire defense is playing poorly. Burfict had a very mixed game, Lawson barely played and the Bengals' best DB was Mike Wallace. Toothlessburger had all day to throw and our alleged strength, the defensive line, was beaten in the trenches by a banged-up Pitt o-line and got run over by some no-name third string RB.

Right now we've got one blue-chip defender, Geno Atkins. Then we got two or three guys like Dunlap, Burfict and maybe MJ who can be, but aren't always, difference-makers. The rest of the squad ranges from average/servicable (Nelson, Peko, Hall) to poor (Maualuga) to garbage (Mays).

In the end, the blame has to go back to Lewis. He bought the groceries, he's coaching these guys and the majority don't have the skills or discipline to do the job. Problem is that with nine games left it's too late to do much about it now.

Depression sets in.

[ArmyBengal]

I rally can't disagree with Marvin, Army. He certainly wasn't praising Maualuga. In fact, he specifically called him out for blowing his assignment and allowing the backbreaking rush that let the Steelers run out the clock. But Lewis is right that the Rey-hate is overshadowing the fact that the entire defense is playing poorly. Burfict had a very mixed game, Lawson barely played and the Bengals' best DB was Mike Wallace. Toothlessburger had all day to throw and our alleged strength, the defensive line, was beaten in the trenches by a banged-up Pitt o-line and got run over by some no-name third string RB.

Right now we've got one blue-chip defender, Geno Atkins. Then we got two or three guys like Dunlap, Burfict and maybe MJ who can be, but aren't always, difference-makers. The rest of the squad ranges from average/servicable (Nelson, Peko, Hall) to poor (Maualuga) to garbage (Mays).

In the end, the blame has to go back to Lewis. He bought the groceries, he's coaching these guys and the majority don't have the skills or discipline to do the job. Problem is that with nine games left it's too late to do much about it now.

And que a favorite expression of mine:

EMBRACE THE SUCK !!!

[HoosierCat]

Depression sets in.

Here, maybe this will help. When I saw it, I said to myself, that has to be COB's house.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6t7oowAsGs

[COB]

Depression sets in.

Here, maybe this will help. When I saw it, I said to myself, that has to be COB's house.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6t7oowAsGs

That guy can sync decorative lights with a korean language song, Rey can't run across a flat piece of ground. Fire Rey. Hire Gangnam Style Halloween lights guy to program the scoreboard at PBS.

[bwillycuse]

..

[bwillycuse]

Yeah, we need mauluga tripping on grass blitz gif. Or a Rey bad angle, tackle own player after the play is over highlight reel.

[cincy9275]

I say fire Marvin this week and replace him with Hue Jackson.

Fine by me.

Can't see Lewis falling on the sword, can't see Mike Brown dropping the axe ....but if either did happen then Hue Jackson would get my shout to take over

i would rather see gruden take marv's job. really i just think he is the better coach. i personally think marvin has took the green light away from jay. what other reason is the drastic change from weeks 1- 4 to the past 3 weeks. went from being creative and aggressive to plain stale and vanilla. just saying. plus gruden has won every where he coached including as a player 6 time arena bowl champion, nfl superbowl champ with brother jon. 93-61 HC record in the arena league and a 11-7 playoff record.

then if marvin still has years on a contract no way in hell will mike ax him , unless he completely fails this season. even then mikey still probably won't s**t can marvin.

[cincy9275]

yes rey needs to go along with the rest of the back 7 besides burfict!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[combatbengal]

What will happen is that we'll win a game or two at the end of the season and the organization and a lot of fans will say ooooooooo, we're improving, no need for change. This happens year in and year out. Plus we'll end up with a later draft pick so the Bengals can save a little cash in the draft. Here's an idea, they should bring back the three WR's that are jobless, TO, Chad and Houch. Just kidding!!