cincyhokie Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 Kyle Cook’s visit to a foot specialist on Monday must have yielded bad news. Per league sources, the Bengals are bringing in Jeff Faine for a tryout tomorrow.Cook suffered a foot injury in Thursday’s 27-13 loss to the Packers last Thursday but did play most of the game. He was in a boot on Friday but indicated that it was nothing serious. He was not in a boot on Sunday but was not in locker room during the team’s media period on Monday. Head coach Marvin Lewis said after Monday’s practice that Cook was visiting a specialist and that he would not play in Thursday’s preseason finale against the Colts. Undrafted rookie Trevor Robinson was taking snaps with the first team at center on Monday./>http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20120827/SPT02/308270078/Cook-s-injury-could-worse-than-thought?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|FRONTPAGE|p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyline Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 Yikes. And, in the spirit of getting bad news all at once, Kirkpatrick is apparently seeing a doctor due to another bout of soreness in his knee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cincyhokie Posted August 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 Center is one position that you don't want to lose during the season. I do think it's a good idea to take a look at a guy like Faine for his experience and ability to read defenses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volcom69 Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 Yep not good at all there were sources who said he might be done for the year, but right now those are just rumors. So far this preseason has been bad for the bengals injurys, and this one is just bad. They have to bring in a guy like Faine who worked under Gruden in Tampa who might know the system, plus don't want to start two rookies against Baltimore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 @#$%. So we're looking at 3 new starters on the offensive line vs. 2011. @#$%. @#$%. @#$%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volcom69 Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 Sounds like he maybe done for the year according to Hobson, not liking this at all. They better sign Faine or some veteran at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cincyhokie Posted August 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 Maybe this is where the Bengals pull off one of their end of preseason trades. I have no idea who they would trade for, however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volcom69 Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 Maybe this is where the Bengals pull off one of their end of preseason trades. I have no idea who they would trade for, however.Yea I'm not sure any teams have a good starting center for trade. Faine was a good center but struggled last year. Nice thing with him is maybe he will know Grudens offense which I'm hoping for if they do sign him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cincyhokie Posted August 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 Maybe this is where the Bengals pull off one of their end of preseason trades. I have no idea who they would trade for, however.Yea I'm not sure any teams have a good starting center for trade. Faine was a good center but struggled last year. Nice thing with him is maybe he will know Grudens offense which I'm hoping for if they do sign him.Exactly. Centers are like pitchers. You don't just easily aqcuire them. Most teams simply move a guard to center and replace the guard. The Bengals have 2 rookie guards, along with the depth at guard being young and thin.I hate to say it but this is the kind of injury that can make a 9-7 team fall to 7-9, 6-10. Not good at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShulaSteakhouse Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 Glad to hear they've had a competent back-up Center in place, especially after Wharton went down. Morons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShulaSteakhouse Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 Maybe this is where the Bengals pull off one of their end of preseason trades. I have no idea who they would trade for, however.Yea I'm not sure any teams have a good starting center for trade. Faine was a good center but struggled last year. Nice thing with him is maybe he will know Grudens offense which I'm hoping for if they do sign him.Exactly. Centers are like pitchers. You don't just easily aqcuire them. Most teams simply move a guard to center and replace the guard. The Bengals have 2 rookie guards, along with the depth at guard being young and thin.I hate to say it but this is the kind of injury that can make a 9-7 team fall to 7-9, 6-10. Not good at all.Thankfully, Cook is rated as one of the worst Centers in the league, the drop-off won't be that much. This is not a "negative opinion" it is simply stating a fact.My unhappiness with Alexander and his unit, as well as the LB'ers, have been documented. They really aren't good enough to compete with top teams and Alexander has been holding this team back for years and years.Once again we have guys he signs and drafts, if they aren't first or high 2nd round "can't miss" types, that do not develop, creating an increasingly desperate situation where they have to sign the Cook's and Williams' and Wharton's and Fain's of the world. They have very little depth, a non-existent running game, and an offense ranked in the 20's.I get tired of the same old crap with the o-line, that Center position has been a problem ever since Braham retired years ago. They've never bothered to truly address it, because they refuse to spend $ or a high draft pick on the position. No idea why they extended Cook, he's terrible, he should be a back-up, nothing more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 One oddity in all this is that a few weeks back, I was reading the depth chart and Reggie Stephens was listed as Cook's backupHe's now listed as backup guardI figure the loss of Wharton figures into this position shift, but if the guy was getting training camp snaps at Center, why does he not figure into the mix at Center? He's not even mentioned as a possibility in any of the reports I readRegardless.....I don't think Faine will be much of an answer. Let's pray someone releases an old and overpriced veteran center after preseason game 4....one who can hold the fort for us for a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COB Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 Eric Ghuiciuc reporting for duty, Sir! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princeton Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 @#$%. So we're looking at 3 new starters on the offensive line vs. 2011. @#$%. @#$%. @#$%.you're hoping for the return of Nate Livings, aren't you?seriously-- Bobbie Williams would likely help. No chance that the Ravens cut him, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 Thankfully, Cook is rated as one of the worst Centers in the league, the drop-off won't be that much. This is not a "negative opinion" it is simply stating a fact.Not really. Cook gets banged in the rankings in part because of the high number of snaps he takes. When you look at actual pass and run blocking efficiency, he's a slightly above-average run blocker and a slightly below-average pass protector.But to be honest, it isn't either his or any new center's run-blocking or pass protection skills that concern me. The center drives the offensive line, makes a lot of the blocking calls and, of course, has to snap the ball at the right time to the QB. Trying to integrate a new guy now almost guarantees that blown protections, false starts, bad snaps, etc. are going to be an issue, at least early.Snakebit. This team is @#$%^&* snakebit.ETA: Per Marvin presser, Cook has an ankle injury, still looking at severity. Also, Kirkpatrick confirmed out vs. Indy with tendonitis. Lweis says that since they are so low on the waiver wire (21) a trade is a possibility. Various rumor mills have Muck and Pacman as two possible guys they could deal. Me, I don't see anyone trading for Pacman and don't want to trade Muck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 Eric Ghuiciuc reporting for duty, Sir!oh HELL no! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wpeldios Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 I think we need to list the entire preseason under the "Not good news" headline. Seriously, this has been nothing more than a horrific onslaught of injuries to key players that will all take longer to heal than originally expected due to the incredibly poor bengals medical staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volcom69 Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 Thankfully, Cook is rated as one of the worst Centers in the league, the drop-off won't be that much. This is not a "negative opinion" it is simply stating a fact.Not really. Cook gets banged in the rankings in part because of the high number of snaps he takes. When you look at actual pass and run blocking efficiency, he's a slightly above-average run blocker and a slightly below-average pass protector.But to be honest, it isn't either his or any new center's run-blocking or pass protection skills that concern me. The center drives the offensive line, makes a lot of the blocking calls and, of course, has to snap the ball at the right time to the QB. Trying to integrate a new guy now almost guarantees that blown protections, false starts, bad snaps, etc. are going to be an issue, at least early.Snakebit. This team is @#$%^&* snakebit.ETA: Per Marvin presser, Cook has an ankle injury, still looking at severity. Also, Kirkpatrick confirmed out vs. Indy with tendonitis. Lweis says that since they are so low on the waiver wire (21) a trade is a possibility. Various rumor mills have Muck and Pacman as two possible guys they could deal. Me, I don't see anyone trading for Pacman and don't want to trade Muck.That is stupid to trade Muck! Who the hell would want pacman he is always injured. Also who does Marvin think they are going to get, nobody is going to give away a starting center to the bengals. What good backup centers are even around? Did Faine have his tryout, and it didn't go good? Continuity is what scares me with this line, we thought the run blocking sucked before, not good. I hope Andy is ready to move around in the pocket more. I'll be curious to even see who as a center is even available anymore.Well it might not be season ending sounds like they still don't know. However they need something for the opener, and who knows how long after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingwilly Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 Eric Ghuiciuc reporting for duty, Sir!oh HELL no!I know that posting a pic of El Matador is a joke, but at this point its just in poor taste. Cook was no Remington, but at least he knew the system and had rapport with Dalton and the line.If Faine is signed, I truly hope it is a seamless a transition as there could be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingwilly Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 also, just read Scott has screws in his hand?!?! This, after only hearing he hand a generically injured han until now, does not bode well for the start of the season. WTF? broken up hand with screws in it???How about they PUP Scott and go get a proper extra running back and gain some comfidence? Good Lord. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COB Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 also, just read Scott has screws in his hand?!?! This, after only hearing he hand a generically injured han until now, does not bode well for the start of the season. WTF? broken up hand with screws in it???How about they PUP Scott and go get a proper extra running back and gain some comfidence? Good Lord.Herron makes the team and I bet he plays more than a few plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 Reedy addressed my (well really, someone else's) question about Reggie Stephens via TwitterHe basically said that a undrafted rookie starting ahead of Stephens was the "writing on the wall" for Stephensso much for that idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Ray Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 Glad to hear they've had a competent back-up Center in place, especially after Wharton went down. Morons.How is Mike Brown to blame here? He drafted a stud to plug in at RG. Then the LG and C get hurt and now you're bitching that he didn't have contingency plans. Look, we're now without two starting O-linemen, both starting RBs and our #1 pick. That's a problem for any NFL team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 Cook's injury is the only one that really concerns me at this point.Kirkpatrick wasn't going to be a starter early on anyway, but don't like the delay in learning.Hall and Clements along with Newman look to be the top 3 CB's. I don't think that was really in question since training camp.Dunlap will be back. Maybe not the opener, but he's not gone for the season.He wasn't really around much last season, so same same there in my book.The running backs are just a big question mark. If BJGE is ready, then i'm good. Scott has never impressed me and I was wanting to see his spot upgraded anyway. Maybe the injury allows for that now, as i'm sure there will be some speed guys cut along the way.The o-line's issue is inexperience more than anything. The thought of there being 3 new starters on the interior of the o-line is going to be shaky, but we already knew 2 were going to happen anyway, so it's not as drastic as some want to paint it. Many here think Cook is sh*t anyway, so isn't his injury an opportunity for someone that could be better in those people's eyes ??Gresham will be fine as well.Take a breath and see how it works out. September 10th is still just shy of 2 weeks away.I was expecting a loss week one anyway even before all this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 I can accept a loss to Baltimore. Don't like it, but I can accept itNow - a win or loss plus an injury to Dalton because we can't keep the pass rush off him - that I can't acceptThats my worryThey had better max protect all game - keep Lee and/or Leapin' Lonard in the backfield to keep Dalton clean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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