COB Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 Tribe is back in first. Their recent skid is just not as bad as the whitesux skid. CWS are trapped in a beautiful vortex of fail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsbengalsbucks Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 My god, Chapman is like a fragile teenage girl. He struggles for days when things don't go his way. More than that, he needs to get a second pitch. As of right now, he's actually a liability. Strange to say when 2 weeks ago he had a 0.00 ERA.It is obvious that Chapman is not a closer, it is time to put Marshall back in that spot and start shopping for a vet closer. Chapman just cant put a bad outing behind him fast enough to be a closer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted June 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 Agreed with Chapman needing to put things behind him. He looks lost out there when he doesn't get a strike call and if he doesn't come back to get the hitter, issuing a walk, Dusty should go ahead and pull him. You could see it last night. I even mentioned to my wife when we were watching the game that Chapman looked like he was having control issues and would blow the game.Unlike the night before where the pitchers sucked, this game was actually very fun to watch.Wish we would have come out on the other end, but today is another day.Lets get a win today...COB, feelin' better brother ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Ray Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 Throwing 94-96 mph fastballs and only one slider & falling behind in the count is not a recipe for success. He looked very ordinary last night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COB Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 COB, feelin' better brother ??Yep, but sorry it is at the expense of my Bengalszone friends. It is not false modesty to say that the Reds are the better team, top to bottom. The tribe has one very good quality - they win close games. Their closer, Perez, has a lot to do with that as he is really effective, and they have some veterans who are clutch hitters. But if you compare their lineups, the Reds are better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted June 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 COB, feelin' better brother ??Yep, but sorry it is at the expense of my Bengalszone friends. It is not false modesty to say that the Reds are the better team, top to bottom. The tribe has one very good quality - they win close games. Their closer, Perez, has a lot to do with that as he is really effective, and they have some veterans who are clutch hitters. But if you compare their lineups, the Reds are better.I said it the first series and will say it again now, the Indians are a good team and shouldn't be overlooked.The past two games have been close and I expect the same in tonights game. I'm just hoping they get one here.The Reds have to do something with the relievers. None have shown to be much more than average to this point.Chapman has the ability to be shutdown, as he was to start things off, but sooner or later he needs to get more consistent, develop a short term memory, and for the love of God, get more than one pitch. He's killing me lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 Go ahead and file me in with the people who still have plenty of faith in Chapman. I'm honestly surprised by the backlash. After over two months of 0.00, of course he was going to have a few tough outings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyline Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 Go ahead and file me in with the people who still have plenty of faith in Chapman. I'm honestly surprised by the backlash. After over two months of 0.00, of course he was going to have a few tough outings.Oh, I'm still on board. I do think there's a failure somewhere along the line (coaching or otherwise), though, that we're still seeing virtually nothing but the fastball. It was annoying enough when he was throwing 99-101, but even worse last night when he's only throwing the ball 96 or so. Any major league player can take that deep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted June 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 Oh i'm not saying i'm done with Chapman either, but I don't like what i've seen lately for more than a simple loss.I don't like his reactions to getting behind in the count, I don't like his reactions to someone getting on base, and I don't like the loss of velocity on his fastball. Like Hoosier said, 96 is good, but it's not dominant. All I want to see him do is shake off the sh*t that is going to happen from time to time and stop carrying it around to the next batter. Give up a hit ?? Fine, get the next guy.Yes, I still want to see more than a fastball as well. What was he doing in spring training that had people thinking he was going to be a starter in the rotation before Madsen went down for the season ?? Whatever it was, I want to see that, because you can't be expected to be a starter and throw 70+ fastballs in a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 Well that was a nice series. First time the Reds have been swept all year, if I recall correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 Well that was a nice series. First time the Reds have been swept all year, if I recall correctly.Oh the shame. Sweep two series then get swept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted June 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 The last time they sucked like this, Billy started up the next series thread and they righted the ship.Seeing as how baseball and superstitions seem to go hand in hand, I will let Billy start the next one.They have a day off today before starting back up with the Twins.COB is somewhere smiling today !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COB Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 COB is somewhere smiling today !!!I am indeed smiling. But I am aware that we split the season with the Reds, ie our sweep happened on the heels of us getting broomed out of Cinci a short time ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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