GapControl Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 Took a look at this site today. Has some pretty good crunching of guards and centers in 2010 and 2011. Notes: Travelle Wharton makes the top 10; Jacob Bell ( Retired ) comes in at 17; Bobbie Williams at Number 1; Nate Livings made it into the TOP 20 WORST list/>http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/06/14/2010-pass-blocking-efficiency-guards-and-centers/None of the before mentioned players ranked in 2011, though/>http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/02/21/2011-pass-blocking-efficiency-guards-and-centers/Pass Blocking Efficiency, Guards, Top 20, 2010Rank Name Team Pass Blocking Snaps PBE1 Bobbie Williams CIN 660 1.592 Brandon Moore NYJ 669 1.613 Wade Smith HST 646 1.784 Logan Mankins NE 348 1.875 Josh Sitton GB 810 2.076 Travelle Wharton CAR 330 2.127 Jahri Evans NO 780 2.188 Chris Snee NYG 597 2.189 Harvey Dahl ATL 706 2.2310 Will Montgomery WAS 337 2.3011 Brian Waters KC 531 2.3112 Carl Nicks NO 780 2.3413 Rich Seubert NYG 569 2.3714 Mike Brisiel HST 295 2.3715 Kyle DeVan IND 546 2.3816 Andy Levitre BUF 579 2.4217 Jacob Bell SL 662 2.6118 Kyle Kosier DAL 495 2.6319 Steve Hutchinson MIN 409 2.6920 Richie Incognito MIA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 Williams signed with the Ravens today./>http://www.cincyjungle.com/2012/6/8/3073382/bobbie-williams-agrees-in-principle-on-a-two-year-deal-with-the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 Williams signed with the Ravens today./>http://www.cincyjungle.com/2012/6/8/3073382/bobbie-williams-agrees-in-principle-on-a-two-year-deal-with-theI don't like that. I don't know how much knowledge of our playbook he has, but I dont like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COB Posted June 9, 2012 Report Share Posted June 9, 2012 I swear the ravens do this whit on purpose. How can this repeated signings be a coincidence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wraith Posted June 11, 2012 Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 Of course they do it on purpose.For one, they know the players in the division better because they face them twice a year.Next, the Bengals O-Line has always done a good job negating the Raven's pass rush.Finally, they want as much intel about the Bengals as possible since we start the season at BaltimoreBesides the Raven's have a knack for picking O-Linemen off the scrap heap and getting a good year of two out of them. See Birk, Matt or Anderson, Willie or McKennie, Bryant is is not just about the Bengals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalByTheBay Posted June 11, 2012 Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 Of course they do it on purpose.For one, they know the players in the division better because they face them twice a year.Next, the Bengals O-Line has always done a good job negating the Raven's pass rush.Finally, they want as much intel about the Bengals as possible since we start the season at BaltimoreBesides the Raven's have a knack for picking O-Linemen off the scrap heap and getting a good year of two out of them. See Birk, Matt or Anderson, Willie or McKennie, Bryant is is not just about the Bengals.I think it's pretty clearly this. I don't think they really expect Williams to play much, if at all, of a role for them. They simply want to squeeze his brain and then let him go. If I'm Williams I sign and then don't tell them s**t until after cut-down to the 53 man roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted June 22, 2012 Report Share Posted June 22, 2012 At the risk of reigniting the Moobs debate, Pat Kirwan ranks the combination of Whit & Smith as the second-best tackle tandem in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted June 22, 2012 Report Share Posted June 22, 2012 He seems obsessed with only one metric, related to sacks allowed, but whatever. I like our tackle tandem too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShulaSteakhouse Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 Never really cared for these ratings/stats with o-lineman. There's way too many variables involved to accurately assess them this way, most notably the type of offense they're playing in. Breakdowns/missed assignments are one thing, but if your QB is getting rid of the ball 99% of the time with a 3-step drop in a timing-based system (Brat/Palmer), he's not getting sacked much no matter who is in front of him - it's why Alexander gets away with just putting big fatties on the line who are simply hard to move or get around quickly. Gruden's offense is different though obviously, and you saw the weaknesses of some of these guys really show through last year, making changes and draft picks necessary. I still think the C position is a problem, Cook is an ideal back-up/depth guy, but his talent level is no higher than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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