HoosierCat Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 Yup, that would be our boys (plus Katie) who have just $71.2 million committed toward the 2012 cap, which is supposed to be about the same $124 million as last year. So the Bengals have circa $50 million in cap room to play with.OTOH, the Steelers have $141.7 million committed to 2012, so Pitt is looking at something like $16 million in cuts just to get to air. Something tells me there's going to be a lot of unhappy Pitt fans this offseason./>http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcsouth/post/_/id/28315/looking-at-2012-salary-capEDIT: scroll down for updated numbers for all teams.UPDATE: see page four. Bengals moved over $15 million from 2011 so they have $60 million in cap space now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COB Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 I want to comment on this, but I'm suffering post-traumatic stress disorder from watching Madonna lurch around the stage during last night's halftime. Nicki Minaj should have been the featured performer, then when they needed 10 seconds of something to appeal to nursing home residents and geriatric fetishists, Madonna could have ridden across the stage in her Hoveround power chair (paid for by medicaire, no out of pocket cost to you). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 I want to comment on this, but I'm suffering post-traumatic stress disorder from watching Madonna lurch around the stage during last night's halftime.From what I hear she's still telling people she's like a virgin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 How the NFL goes about picking the halftime performers is beyond me, but whatever they do, they should change it.That being said, is this the season they are required to spend the 90% or 95% of the cap or is that next season ??Either way, Mike Brown has the opportunity to do something really big with that kind of coin.#1. Pay a buttload of that to Carl Nicks from the Saints. While I don't envision him leaving New Orleans, money has a way of changing minds and God knows his addition would change the whole makeup of the o-line.#2. Don't overpay, but go get Marshawn Lynch from the Seahawks. I think he would be a nice pickup for our running game. Plus he's still only 26.#3. Keep Manny Lawson, because there isn't much more out there better in FA and he played well last season.#4. Keep Reggie Nelson, because there isn't much more out there better in FA and he is used well in our defense.I would go into what they could do in the draft after getting Nicks and Lynch, but it should be obvious and will leave that conversation where it belongs.Go get this done MB !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted February 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 I want to comment on this, but I'm suffering post-traumatic stress disorder from watching Madonna lurch around the stage during last night's halftime. You realize what I have to do now, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted February 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 That being said, is this the season they are required to spend the 90% or 95% of the cap or is that next season ??2013. Still one year left.I would be down with Nicks and/or Lynch. Don't see either happening, though.Nelson I would like back. He isn't perfect but the Bengals have put some serious time and effort into rebuilding him and I would hate to see that wasted. Unfortunately, my gut tells me they're in love with Taylor Mays and Reggie will be moving on. Given how little there is at safety in the draft he should definitely draw interest.I'm ambivalent about Lawson but he did do some good work last year and Moch & Muck are still complete ???. So yeah, get him back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cHaD711Johnson Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 Would rather not overpay for Nicks. Maybe get Ben Grubbs instead. Cortland Finnegan would be nice as well. I'm leaning towards wanting a receiver in the draft, but Mario Manningham is a good fit if we go through free agency. This is a deep WR draft we can get some guys late that can end up being players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Ray Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 Did that article include a link to a list of all 32 teams and their cap number? If it did, I missed it. Just curious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COB Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 I want to comment on this, but I'm suffering post-traumatic stress disorder from watching Madonna lurch around the stage during last night's halftime. You realize what I have to do now, right? I'm not a hater, it's just that without a working time machine we can stuff her in, Madonna belongs nowhere near a primetime TV event.Correction: I am a hater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted February 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 Did that article include a link to a list of all 32 teams and their cap number? If it did, I missed it. Just curiousUnfortunately no. Teh google does show a lot of team boards and blogs with individual numbers, though, so if you're interested in a particular team the number is probably out there.As for the rest of the AFCN, the Ravens are reportedly over the cap already but not as bad as the Steelers. The Browns have lots of room, though not as much as the Bengals.One other note: per PFT as of the end of November the Bengals were still $19 million under the 2011 cap. So it appears that The Family will pocket a nice windfall along with a winning record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Ray Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 [One other note: per PFT as of the end of November the Bengals were still $19 million under the 2011 cap. So it appears that The Family will pocket a nice windfall along with a winning record.In fairness to them, that included some very unusual circumstances. They needed to keep the Lion's share of that space open so that they retained the option to trade Carson should some sucker come along Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted February 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 Here's an updated list with all the teams: http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_football_dolphins/2012/02/nfl-salary-cap-projections-for-2012-season.htmlPOSSIBLE BIG SPENDERSTeams that have the cap space to make big moves in free agency.Cincinnati Bengals $80,641,237Tennessee Titans $92,739,765Washington Redskins $94,351,284Kansas City Chiefs $95,844,195Tampa Bay Buccaneers $98,899,458Atlanta Falcons $100,227,174Denver Broncos $101,389,121New England Patriots $101,827,381Chicago Bears $101,887,741San Francisco 49ers $102,938,980Cleveland Browns $103,789,162WORKING ON A BUDGETTeams that aren’t up against the cap, but need to make smart moves to avoid trimming a ton of players and salaries.Jacksonville Jaguars $107,270,274Buffalo Bills $108,426,522Seattle Seahawks $111,742,430San Diego Chargers $111,960,165New Orleans Saints $113,358,069Philadelphia Eagles $113,964,694Baltimore Ravens $115,670,281Minnesota Vikings $116,078,422Houston Texans $116,306,676Miami Dolphins $116,636,173Indianapolis Colts $116,773,288Green Bay Packers $118,001,169Arizona Cardinals $118,787,639TIGHTENING THE BELTTeams that will be at, or over the projected salary cap once they’ve signed the rookie class. These teams must purge their roster moving forward. The higher the cap number, the more drastic the cut backs need to be.St. Louis Rams $120,982,904Detroit Lions $122,760,121New York Giants $124,735,807New York Jets $128,092,733Dallas Cowboys $128,910,735Carolina Panthers $129,962,768Oakland Raiders $140,861,316Pittsburgh Steelers $149,885,537Pittsburg is f**ked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COB Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 Here's an updated list with all the teams: http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_football_dolphins/2012/02/nfl-salary-cap-projections-for-2012-season.htmlPOSSIBLE BIG SPENDERSTeams that have the cap space to make big moves in free agency.Cincinnati Bengals $80,641,237Tennessee Titans $92,739,765Washington Redskins $94,351,284Kansas City Chiefs $95,844,195Tampa Bay Buccaneers $98,899,458Atlanta Falcons $100,227,174Denver Broncos $101,389,121New England Patriots $101,827,381Chicago Bears $101,887,741San Francisco 49ers $102,938,980Cleveland Browns $103,789,162WORKING ON A BUDGETTeams that aren’t up against the cap, but need to make smart moves to avoid trimming a ton of players and salaries.Jacksonville Jaguars $107,270,274Buffalo Bills $108,426,522Seattle Seahawks $111,742,430San Diego Chargers $111,960,165New Orleans Saints $113,358,069Philadelphia Eagles $113,964,694Baltimore Ravens $115,670,281Minnesota Vikings $116,078,422Houston Texans $116,306,676Miami Dolphins $116,636,173Indianapolis Colts $116,773,288Green Bay Packers $118,001,169Arizona Cardinals $118,787,639TIGHTENING THE BELTTeams that will be at, or over the projected salary cap once they’ve signed the rookie class. These teams must purge their roster moving forward. The higher the cap number, the more drastic the cut backs need to be.St. Louis Rams $120,982,904Detroit Lions $122,760,121New York Giants $124,735,807New York Jets $128,092,733Dallas Cowboys $128,910,735Carolina Panthers $129,962,768Oakland Raiders $140,861,316Pittsburgh Steelers $149,885,537Pittsburg is f**ked.Agreed, and they know it. Keisel was talking about it after the season, something about he didn't expect to be back, and there would be other vets who wouldn't be back. Then the article cited Larry Foote and Aaron Smith as guys who probably wouldn't be back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekshank Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 Michael Smith talked about the Steelers situation at PFT back on january 22nd.His list of guys that have a real shot of being cut are: Aaron Smith, Bryant McFadden, James Farrior, Casey Hampton and Larry FooteMy thoughts? Well... with these guys potentially leaving, Polamalu, Harrison, and Keisel not getting any younger, along with questions at RB and the O-Line... Steeler fans are going to have to start to manage their expectations.Meanwhile the Bengals have loads of young talent, a bunch of early draft picks over the next two years, and a ton of cap space. Mike Brown needs to strike while the iron is hot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted February 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 [One other note: per PFT as of the end of November the Bengals were still $19 million under the 2011 cap. So it appears that The Family will pocket a nice windfall along with a winning record.In fairness to them, that included some very unusual circumstances. They needed to keep the Lion's share of that space open so that they retained the option to trade Carson should some sucker come alongAbsolutely. And on that note I saw today that the Bengals have tossed out a new offer: buy 4 club season tickets, get a free jersey.Hey, at least he's trying... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 Would rather not overpay for a Guard (HUGE GLARING NEED) with one of the best in the league when the team is 80 mil under the cap ??Yeah, that would suck...As for WR's, i'm no longer interested in almost anything FA has to offer. Almost...If they make some moves in FA to address other needs, I have zero problem with another first on a WR should Floyd or Jeffery be available when we pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walzav29 Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 Last year I wanted the Bengals to take a run at Nnamdi. Instead they spent wisely on gus like Lawson, Howard, and Clements. It's better to get alot of quality guys than overpaying for 1 guy. I like the idea of resigning our free agents. Extending the young talented guys, and get FA that are good fits. Guard#2 WRThis is going to be the funnest offseason ever. 40 million under the cap, 2 #1's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 Last year I wanted the Bengals to take a run at Nnamdi. Instead they spent wisely on gus like Lawson, Howard, and Clements. It's better to get alot of quality guys than overpaying for 1 guy. I like the idea of resigning our free agents. Extending the young talented guys, and get FA that are good fits. Guard#2 WRThis is going to be the funnest offseason ever. 40 million under the cap, 2 #1's.In almost EVERY OTHER season I would completely agree, but being this far under the cap it seems like the perfect time to strike out to grab someone who could really add something special to the team. That and free up the draft is always a good thing.I'm just not a huge fan of some of the guys out there in the market at some of the positions and don't think there is much out there that I would consider as that something special.Another position to look at is the DE spot. The Texans have to really consider Super Mario and the Lions are trying to figure out what to do with Cliff Avril. DT doesn't bother me as much as others and I could very easily see them bringing back Sims to do what they ask him to do. If not, there are a bunch of guys that could fill that role in FA.My thing is, if they could get a real impact FA at a position of need, it would allow them the chance to go in another direction in regards to the player drafted or take a shot at moving up in the draft order. There are more than a few guys I wouldn't mind moving up for. Again though, I don't want this to turn into who we draft. Only mentioning the impact on the draft if we get a player in FA that frees it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekshank Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 You want to make a splash and free up the draft? I have one name for you:Cortland Finnegan. He'd be a great fit in the AFC North (physical, attitude, mean streak), and more specifically, is a perfect fit for Zimmer's scheme (his skills in press man-coverage are better than any of the CBs in this draft). It also transforms one of those 1st round picks into a complete luxury, because as it stands, the Bengals MUST get a CB in the 1st round this year... even if it means slightly reaching.Option #2: Ben Grubbs. Steal a guy away from a division rival, while getting a top-tier talent at LG. Two birds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkansas Bengal Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 You want to make a splash and free up the draft? I have one name for you:Cortland Finnegan. He'd be a great fit in the AFC North (physical, attitude, mean streak), and more specifically, is a perfect fit for Zimmer's scheme (his skills in press man-coverage are better than any of the CBs in this draft). It also transforms one of those 1st round picks into a complete luxury, because as it stands, the Bengals MUST get a CB in the 1st round this year... even if it means slightly reaching.Option #2: Ben Grubbs. Steal a guy away from a division rival, while getting a top-tier talent at LG. Two birds.Agree 100%--Finnegan would be a great fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 Isnt dwayne bowe a free agent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted February 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 Isnt dwayne bowe a free agent?Yes.Just for everyone's reference ourlads has all the FAs nicely sorted by team here:/>http://www.ourlads.com/nflfa/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 Isnt dwayne bowe a free agent?Yes.Just for everyone's reference ourlads has all the FAs nicely sorted by team here:/>http://www.ourlads.com/nflfa/Then mark me down as advocating for bowe. Bowe opposite green would solve some issues and free the draft for the line, rb and secondary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volcom69 Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 You want to make a splash and free up the draft? I have one name for you:Cortland Finnegan. He'd be a great fit in the AFC North (physical, attitude, mean streak), and more specifically, is a perfect fit for Zimmer's scheme (his skills in press man-coverage are better than any of the CBs in this draft). It also transforms one of those 1st round picks into a complete luxury, because as it stands, the Bengals MUST get a CB in the 1st round this year... even if it means slightly reaching.Option #2: Ben Grubbs. Steal a guy away from a division rival, while getting a top-tier talent at LG. Two birds.I agree with Finnegan, think he would be a great fit here. I just wonder how much he will want. Also makes me wonder how much Brown will spend this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted February 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 I agree with Finnegan, think he would be a great fit here. I just wonder how much he will want. Also makes me wonder how much Brown will spend this year.If the past is any guide Brown will spend but mostly on retaining, not acquiring, guys. I think they will definitely try to keep Pat Sims, Reggie Nelson and Mike Nugent. Collins, Jennings, Brandon Johnson, Pacman, Lawson and Skuta are probably in the mix, too. To the massive frustration of Bengals fans, I think they probably bring back Nate Livings, too. Maybe Roland. Simpson will be there if they want him.Anyone they want but can't keep will be replaced by someone similar. In short, don't expect a big splash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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