So, Mike, Tell Us How You REALLY Feel...

[HoosierCat]

Mike Zimmer on Bobby Petrino:

“When a coach quits in the middle of the year and ruins a bunch of people’s families and doesn’t have enough guts to finish out the year, I’m not a part of it,” Zimmer said. “And you can put that in the Arkansas News Gazette. I don’t really give a (bleep). He’s a coward, he ruined a bunch of people’s lives, a bunch of families, kids, because he didn’t have enough (guts) to stay there and finish the job. And that’s the truth. Most people in football have enough courage about him and enough fight to stick it out and not quit halfway through the year. It’s cowardly.”

Petrino pulled the coaching equivalent of the Baltimore Colts leaving in the middle of the night when he surfaced in Arkansas to take the job about 24 hours after the Falcons appeared on Monday Night Football.

“He came in and said he resigned, (said) he’d talk to us all at a later date, walked out of the office and no one has talked to him since,” Zimmer said. “Not that anybody wanted to. He’s a gutless (bleep). You can quote that.”

[DC_Bengals_Fan]

He ain't wrong! And I've considered us fortunate that it did go down that way. Worked out fine.

Since the article mentioned him...whadda we gotta do to get Hue back?

[COB]

Holy crap. Mike Zimmer is a badass.

[ArmyBengal]

What the f*ck is going on with this coaching staff ??

Seriously, even if you agree with what he's saying, what's the point in him saying it ??

That being said, that's some funny sh*t right there...

[DC_Bengals_Fan]

Seriously, even if you agree with what he's saying, what's the point in him saying it ??

I imagine some reporter dredged it up since they're playing Atlanta this week.

And I think any man with integrity would despise Petrino. Best analogy I can think of - and I realize the levels of importance aren't comparable - but how would it go over in the military if a commanding officer ran off because things got tough? Never mind that Uncle Sam would have a few problems with that - what kind of an earful would I get from his men if I mentioned that guy's name even years later?

[HairOnFire]

What the f*ck is going on with this coaching staff ??

Seriously, even if you agree with what he's saying, what's the point in him saying it ??

That was my first reaction as well. For those keeping tabs, that's now three games in a row where a member of the Bengals staff has thought it appropriate to openly criticize the manner that other teams operate. Granted, in this latest example Zimmer is blasting a much despised ex-coach who is no longer with the Falcons, but even if I agree with the things being said, and I do, I've also got to wonder why any Bengal player would attempt to show restraint when dealing with media after seeing the latest demonstration of how this coaching staff conducts itself.

That being said, that's some funny sh*t right there...

I agree. Then again, clown shoes are always hilarious to look at no matter who wears them.

[DC_Bengals_Fan]

Granted, in this latest example Zimmer is blasting a much despised ex-coach

I'd say he's blasting someone who pretty much betrayed him personally. I can't say I'd react any differently.

As to the 'restraint' issue and the players learning from his example: if they learn that honesty, integrity, and facing problems like a man is important, and that people who don't are to be regarded with contempt, I'm A-OK with that.

[ArmyBengal]

I get what you are saying DC, I really do. Zimmer was wronged, HE felt betrayed, HE thinks that Petrino is a "gutless bastard".

I actually agree with everything he's saying and think it's all very humerous.

Thing is, I could care less they are playing the Falcons, who Zimmer coached with, it's irrelevant in what this means to the Bengals.

Why take a stand there ?? Why not address why his defense has failed miserably compared to last years unit ?? Why not address why his defense sucks so bad at stopping teams on 3rd down ?? Why not address why developing a pass defense was so important, but all that work has equated to a pan of baked squirrel ass ??

I just find it odd THIS is what he chooses to take issue with in a public forum and I don't think it provides a good example to his players that had nothing to do with that situation. I think you can learn honesty, integrity, and facing problems without doing what he did in this situation.

Me ?? Having a face to face conversation with the person who wronged me and attempting to be an adult is the way to go. If the other guy doesn't want to do that, fine, but I will end it one way or another before I leave that conversation.

I can see where others might disagree and that is cool as well. Just a different approach to things for all people.

[HairOnFire]

Granted, in this latest example Zimmer is blasting a much despised ex-coach

I'd say he's blasting someone who pretty much betrayed him personally. I can't say I'd react any differently.

I probably wouldn't either.

Then again, these are the types of things that help explain why Mike Zimmer has never been considered for a head coaching position.

[BengalByTheBay]

Granted, in this latest example Zimmer is blasting a much despised ex-coach

I'd say he's blasting someone who pretty much betrayed him personally. I can't say I'd react any differently.

I probably wouldn't either.

Then again, these are the types of things that help explain why Mike Zimmer has never been considered for a head coaching position.

Then again, if it was up to you he'd already be a head coach.

[DC_Bengals_Fan]

Thing is, I could care less they are playing the Falcons, who Zimmer coached with, it's irrelevant in what this means to the Bengals. Why take a stand there ?? Why not address why his defense has failed miserably compared to last years unit ?? I just find it odd THIS is what he chooses to take issue with in a public forum and I don't think it provides a good example to his players that had nothing to do with that situation.

I think it was probably a free-flowing Q&A session, and he just reacted to a question. And we heard the extremely entertaining answer rather than the usual responses to questions about his defense. I'd bet he didn't go in there planning to talk about Gutless, and I bet he did field questions about his defense.

Then again, these are the types of things that help explain why Mike Zimmer has never been considered for a head coaching position.

I dunno, if Rex Ryan can get a job I'm pretty sure anything's on the table. I think Zim just never quite rose to the level of 'hot assistant'. Probably got close a few times, though.

Of course, if Marvin walks (or is no-bid after this year), we might be able to test that theory.

[Kazkal]

Nah....Alexander is going to be our next Head Coach because Mr Brown won't fire him since he'd have to pay his unemployment....Though I could see Brat getting the position too.

[HairOnFire]

Granted, in this latest example Zimmer is blasting a much despised ex-coach

I'd say he's blasting someone who pretty much betrayed him personally. I can't say I'd react any differently.

I probably wouldn't either.

Then again, these are the types of things that help explain why Mike Zimmer has never been considered for a head coaching position.

Then again, if it was up to you he'd already be a head coach.

Not true, but I can see where YOU might get that idea. After all, he's the only coaching option mentioned so far that YOU would consider. But just because YOU so willingly trap yourself in as small a box as possible is no reason to assume I'd do the same. Because I can make as strong a case for Jim Anderson as the more popular choice of Zimmer. Furthermore, unlike YOU I've never limited myself to coaching options already on the staff.

But again, it's not happening is it?

Rather, in this verion of the movie nobody dies....which often means a sequel hasn't been ruled out. So rather than delving deeping into things that aren't happening, why don't those of you who refuse to consider any action at all tell us where this team is headed and why inertia is the preferred method of doing business? Defend doing nothing. Defend 2-3. Defend Carolina, Cleveland, and Tampa Bay.

And since we're stuck on the topic of inertia try answering some of the other questions that arise. Does Mike Brown keep his still rejected long-term offer on the table for Marvin Lewis despite the crushing results...ala Shayne Graham? And if so does Marvin Lewis now agree to stay for less? And if he does, what won/loss record over the last 11 games would be enough to gain your support for that decision? And what of Bratkowski? Are Hoosier's crap stats and empty excuses enough for Bratkowski to be given yet another chance to build his perfect beast next season? And if not, at what point would a man of inaction like yourself actually fire Bratkowski?

Point blank, if you're going to mock the very idea that coaches should be held accountable for their failures then you need to get busy defending the performances of Lewis and Bratkowski rather than gloating about the lack of change.

[membengal]

For what it's worth, I am pretty sure that anyone still with the Falcons organization from the Petrino days agrees with Zimmer on his assessment of Petrino.

[ArmyBengal]

Maybe next week, another member of the coaching staff can take issue with how another team goes about their business or the status of someone that no longer is a part of that organization, only to have our team fall short yet again. I mean, if the clown shoe fits, you wear that motherf*cker !!!

[rwjcgc]

Zimmer, I'm sure that Petrino worries about your thoughts on his career. After all, he is the head coach of an SEC team and you're the defensive

coordinator of one of the most inept defenses in the NFL.

How about putting your FULL attention into trying to actually do something on Sundays and quit whining about your hurt feelings?

[HoosierCat]

In the realm of defensive suckiness, as far as I can tell, this is the most points given up by the defense since that 51-point joke in Cleveland in week 2 of 2007. Welcome back to the Chuckie B D!

Reedy also notes that the last time a WR had a 200+ yard day against the Bengals, the year was 1991.

199-friggin-1.

Wow.

[volcom69]

Yep this defense is a joke. You would think Zimmer would be able to do something with the guys here, but i guess not.

There is no game changer on this defense. I would like think maybe Rey, but so far he is just average!

Its the same defense as last year same guys maybe a couple new ones, but these guys cannot stay in there gaps, and are not playing very physical at all. Look at last year, they were tough, now when i see them all the defense guys are playing from there backs.

Its a real shame i had alot of hopes for this defense, thought they could get even better. So far im very disapointed in Zimmer, and all the defense players out there.

[BengalszoneBilly]

In the realm of defensive suckiness, as far as I can tell, this is the most points given up by the defense since that 51-point joke in Cleveland in week 2 of 2007. Welcome back to the Chuckie B D!

Reedy also notes that the last time a WR had a 200+ yard day against the Bengals, the year was 1991.

199-friggin-1.

Welcome back to the days of darkness.

[HoosierCat]

So I just saw this on da site...

» Chris Crocker on the Bengals:

"We can play football if our head is on straight and we do what we're supposed to do. We don't lack talent, we just lack focus and efficiency."

Well, who's fault is that, Chris? Hmmm?

You had two f**king weeks to focused and get efficient, right?

And according to you talent isn't a problem.

Hey, let me make a few suggestions based on, yknow, the actual sh*t that happened on the field.

One: you and the defense ain't as f**king talented as you think you are.

Two: right now, you don't have a clue about how to get focused and efficient.

[volcom69]

So I just saw this on da site...

» Chris Crocker on the Bengals:

"We can play football if our head is on straight and we do what we're supposed to do. We don't lack talent, we just lack focus and efficiency."

Well, who's fault is that, Chris? Hmmm?

You had two f**king weeks to focused and get efficient, right?

And according to you talent isn't a problem.

Hey, let me make a few suggestions based on, yknow, the actual sh*t that happened on the field.

One: you and the defense ain't as f**king talented as you think you are.

Two: right now, you don't have a clue about how to get focused and efficient.

You beat me too it, i was just going to post this. This has me concerned, how the heck are you not focused coming off a bye week, knowing that you need to win this game.

Wow what a quote, i feel so much better about this defense already. This defense blows!!!!!

[ArmyBengal]

So we aren't refreshed with how honest and open Zimmer is after all huh ??

To be honest, I usually like what Zimmer did. I simply didn't see it meaning much to what the team needed to do this week.

After seeing the defensive sh*t sandwich we all had to bite into today, his actions obviously didn't mean a d*mn thing.

At least the he had the Bengals being mentioned by the talking heads for a while without it being about how bad we suck !!!

[jjakq27]

Maybe next week, another member of the coaching staff can take issue with how another team goes about their business or the status of someone that no longer is a part of that organization, only to have our team fall short yet again. I mean, if the clown shoe fits, you wear that motherf*cker !!!

Parcells cleared out his desk last week in Miami. Maybe he missed the garbage can with some scrap paper or left paperclips in his desk. How dare him.

So far this year we're oh-fer two with the Bucs and Falcons with all of their front office issues. Maybe we should just shut up.

[ArmyBengal]

It's just embarrassing. I'm really disappointed, because I actually agree this team has talent.

[bwillycuse]

I'm not sure about the talent thing. Hall is fading, dline gets n o pressure, linebackers are invisible. Oline is below average, and ir doesn't seem changes in coachiong will ever be made.

This team is sickening.

Unforced fumble in a critical situation? Bad news bears.

Let's put in the young guys. Sgtart scott and simpson. The vets have had their shot.

I want lewis gone. Tiref of him. He has no fire and his team follows/suit.

So, I'm getting my voice ready for the Monday night steelers game. I will be making noise the whole game be it cheering or booing. I hope I don't hurt the teams feelings.

Ill be surprised we get to five wins this year.

We are the worst team in the division.

Soak it in bengals. You are used to it.