After Thoughts Bengals vs Lions

[walzav29]

Except for the spread! Damn Calvin Johnson. This is great. The penalties are driving me nuts, the lack of chemistry in the passing game, and playing down to the level of competition. Next week will be fun. The Bengals will win!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Pidge]

Enjoy!

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Haha, great minds. Just finished reading their dribblings. I lurve how they lump the "Bungals" in with KC etc but not the Ravens. Living in the past much...

[TJJackson]

-WHo gives a crap if SD wins or loses to the Browns

I do. It could be pivotal.

It's not pivotal if we turn around and lose to them. If we come to them and they are down one game on us, and beat us, we are tied and they have the head to head, so it really makes no difference unless losing to the browns ends up being the a factor for overall record. I"m just saying, the Browns are meaningless if we just take care of our own dirty laundry.

Uhm, it IS important. It COULD be pivotal.

A win by the Browns is mostly meaningless, but does help in terms of tiebreakers based on strength of schedule

On the other hand, a loss by the Chargers (or Broncos or Patriots) is very important in that it helps solidify the possibility of a first round bye

[BengalszoneBilly]

Enjoy!

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Beautiful. Eff 'em all.

[BlainThePain]

Andre Smith looked like a beast when he was in there. He completely man handled Avril on that Ochocinco TD reception. Avril beat Roland on one of those sacks BTW.

The run defense doesn't look nearly the same without Peko. I think Peko is the second most important player on the team.

[ChadJohnson-85]

Well the Bengals looked horrible starting out but they got their crap straight and won the game. Oh yeah, NE & PIT lost! Hahaha!!!

WHO DEY!!!

[HoosierCat]

Andre Smith looked like a beast when he was in there. He completely man handled Avril on that Ochocinco TD reception. Avril beat Roland on one of those sacks BTW.

Good to hear. I wanted to see him develop today and he is.

The run defense doesn't look nearly the same without Peko. I think Peko is the second most important player on the team.

Yeah, that was my thought. Kevin Smith kicked our butts. Sims needs to step up. Maybe Harris too with Tank getting nicked.

[BlainThePain]

Enjoy!

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Beautiful. Eff 'em all.

stillers.com has a thread up about how they messed up when they didn't draft Maualuga in the first.

[101Airborne]

-WHo gives a crap if SD wins or loses to the Browns

I do. It could be pivotal.

It's not pivotal if we turn around and lose to them. If we come to them and they are down one game on us, and beat us, we are tied and they have the head to head, so it really makes no difference unless losing to the browns ends up being the a factor for overall record. I"m just saying, the Browns are meaningless if we just take care of our own dirty laundry.

Uhm, it IS important. It COULD be pivotal.

A win by the Browns is mostly meaningless, but does help in terms of tiebreakers based on strength of schedule

On the other hand, a loss by the Chargers (or Broncos or Patriots) is very important in that it helps solidify the possibility of a first round bye

I am well aware of what it would mean for the bye, but there is no reason for us to be begging for a Browns upset when we've got every chance in the world to simply scrape SD off of our cleats ourselves. You guys can feel free to hope for a Browns upset over SD and I'll hope for a Bengals beatdown of SD.

[derekshank]

-WHo gives a crap if SD wins or loses to the Browns

I do. It could be pivotal.

It's not pivotal if we turn around and lose to them. If we come to them and they are down one game on us, and beat us, we are tied and they have the head to head, so it really makes no difference unless losing to the browns ends up being the a factor for overall record. I"m just saying, the Browns are meaningless if we just take care of our own dirty laundry.

Uhm, it IS important. It COULD be pivotal.

A win by the Browns is mostly meaningless, but does help in terms of tiebreakers based on strength of schedule

On the other hand, a loss by the Chargers (or Broncos or Patriots) is very important in that it helps solidify the possibility of a first round bye

I am well aware of what it would mean for the bye, but there is no reason for us to be begging for a Browns upset when we've got every chance in the world to simply scrape SD off of our cleats ourselves. You guys can feel free to hope for a Browns upset over SD and I'll hope for a Bengals beatdown of SD.

I see no reason why we can't hope for both. Hopefully the Bengals will take care of their own garbage. But it would be nice to get help from another team to give a little breathing room in the event that the trek out to the West coast resembles the last one.

[101Airborne]

-WHo gives a crap if SD wins or loses to the Browns

I do. It could be pivotal.

It's not pivotal if we turn around and lose to them. If we come to them and they are down one game on us, and beat us, we are tied and they have the head to head, so it really makes no difference unless losing to the browns ends up being the a factor for overall record. I"m just saying, the Browns are meaningless if we just take care of our own dirty laundry.

Uhm, it IS important. It COULD be pivotal.

A win by the Browns is mostly meaningless, but does help in terms of tiebreakers based on strength of schedule

On the other hand, a loss by the Chargers (or Broncos or Patriots) is very important in that it helps solidify the possibility of a first round bye

I am well aware of what it would mean for the bye, but there is no reason for us to be begging for a Browns upset when we've got every chance in the world to simply scrape SD off of our cleats ourselves. You guys can feel free to hope for a Browns upset over SD and I'll hope for a Bengals beatdown of SD.

I see no reason why we can't hope for both. Hopefully the Bengals will take care of their own garbage. But it would be nice to get help from another team to give a little breathing room in the event that the trek out to the West coast resembles the last one.

Every year I see this board dominated by negativity about our team and a lot of prayers for other teams to make our lives easier and more comfortable. I say screw that noise. Be critical of the problems and hope for the best, but damn, can we have some faith? Can we revel in our wins no matter how ugly? Can we stride with confidence? Do we really need to torture ourselves over who the Browns beat?

[derekshank]

Every year I see this board dominated by negativity about our team and a lot of prayers for other teams to make our lives easier and more comfortable. I say screw that noise. Be critical of the problems and hope for the best, but damn, can we have some faith? Can we revel in our wins no matter how ugly? Can we stride with confidence? Do we really need to torture ourselves over who the Browns beat?

What the hell are you talking about? No one is torturing themselves. I'm merely pulling for the Browns to beat a team that also controls it's own destiny. It's not being overly negative to hope for a best possible case scenario. The Bengals can win out... but even if they don't, can get the bye week anyway. Why not cheer for all of it?

I think you are reading a bit too much into this. Read through my posts. I'm as optimistic as they come. But I'm allowed to cheer for whomever I damn well please if I think it can in any way help the Bengals cause.

[HoosierCat]

Every year I see this board dominated by negativity about our team and a lot of prayers for other teams to make our lives easier and more comfortable. I say screw that noise. Be critical of the problems and hope for the best, but damn, can we have some faith? Can we revel in our wins no matter how ugly? Can we stride with confidence? Do we really need to torture ourselves over who the Browns beat?

I hear ya 101. But I don't think things are particularly negative around these parts. Yep, we have concerns over the passing game, the kicking game still makes everyone itchy, and the D, well, you have to wonder when all the injuries will take their toll. And the Bengals have lost a game or two that make other games, like the Brown-Chargers tilt, of more than passing interest.

All that said, I'm not in a bad mood tonight. Bngals won, Steelers lost, all is right in the world.

[ShulaSteakhouse]

So much for getting any help from the Turds.

[101Airborne]

Every year I see this board dominated by negativity about our team and a lot of prayers for other teams to make our lives easier and more comfortable. I say screw that noise. Be critical of the problems and hope for the best, but damn, can we have some faith? Can we revel in our wins no matter how ugly? Can we stride with confidence? Do we really need to torture ourselves over who the Browns beat?

What the hell are you talking about? No one is torturing themselves. I'm merely pulling for the Browns to beat a team that also controls it's own destiny. It's not being overly negative to hope for a best possible case scenario. The Bengals can win out... but even if they don't, can get the bye week anyway. Why not cheer for all of it?

I think you are reading a bit too much into this. Read through my posts. I'm as optimistic as they come. But I'm allowed to cheer for whomever I damn well please if I think it can in any way help the Bengals cause.

I think you are taking my post WAY too personally. I am talking in generalities and you're acting like I launched some kind of personal attack on you. I said this board, and many others for that matter, contain a level of negativity that I find shocking. If that does not apply to you it does not apply to you. I didn't even suggest I, or anyone else, could tell you who you could and could not root for. Where in my post did I suggest otherwise? YOu have every right to root for half the league if you want and more power to ya. I want us to win the bye without anyone's help. If to you the best case scenario is the Browns helping us win a bye, that's fine and I'll be perfectly happy if it happens to play out that way. To me, the best case scenario is the Bengals winning the bye without the help of anyone.

[101Airborne]

Every year I see this board dominated by negativity about our team and a lot of prayers for other teams to make our lives easier and more comfortable. I say screw that noise. Be critical of the problems and hope for the best, but damn, can we have some faith? Can we revel in our wins no matter how ugly? Can we stride with confidence? Do we really need to torture ourselves over who the Browns beat?

I hear ya 101. But I don't think things are particularly negative around these parts. Yep, we have concerns over the passing game, the kicking game still makes everyone itchy, and the D, well, you have to wonder when all the injuries will take their toll. And the Bengals have lost a game or two that make other games, like the Brown-Chargers tilt, of more than passing interest.

All that said, I'm not in a bad mood tonight. Bngals won, Steelers lost, all is right in the world.

I'm not suggesting everyone is negative either, and I have said numerous times how great it would be if we had '05 offense with this defense and an added dimension in the running game, but people were still bashing TE play when Foschi was catching 3rd down passes for conversions and picking one up for us in the endzone, which was promptly forgotten the next week by several people claiming we had no passing TD's. I don't think I even need to get into the "End the Carson Palmer Experiment" crap.

[HoosierCat]

but people were still bashing TE play when Foschi was catching 3rd down passes for conversions and picking one up for us in the endzone, which was promptly forgotten the next week by several people claiming we had no passing TD's.

Well, I think the TE play is worthy of bashing, in that Dan Coats ought to be run out of Cincy on a rail. Foschi has been a bit of a surprise, IMHO, and hasn't gotten quite the praise he deserves. He's quietly been pretty good. As for passing TDs, we now, have, what 16 in 12 games? Not exactly knocking 'em dead. So I think that's a legit observation.

[101Airborne]

but people were still bashing TE play when Foschi was catching 3rd down passes for conversions and picking one up for us in the endzone, which was promptly forgotten the next week by several people claiming we had no passing TD's.

Well, I think the TE play is worthy of bashing, in that Dan Coats ought to be run out of Cincy on a rail. Foschi has been a bit of a surprise, IMHO, and hasn't gotten quite the praise he deserves. He's quietly been pretty good. As for passing TDs, we now, have, what 16 in 12 games? Not exactly knocking 'em dead. So I think that's a legit observation.

And I'm not against making legitimate critical observations. Coats sucks and I'd love it if we scored more TD's and less FG's, but I don't think my criticism of the negativity is misplaced when right after a win that makes us 9-3, we've got another thread talking about offensive ineptitude.

[volcom69]

Andre Smith looked like a beast when he was in there. He completely man handled Avril on that Ochocinco TD reception. Avril beat Roland on one of those sacks BTW.

The run defense doesn't look nearly the same without Peko. I think Peko is the second most important player on the team.

I think it was more of bad tackling then anything. Many times they had Smith in the back field but couldnt tackle him! I also agree though they do miss Peko so lets hope he is soon back.

[volcom69]

Crocker had an MRI not sure how he is doing. This is not good i dont like this going into the Minn game, i would love to be healthy. I think they may need to get another saftey on this team if Crocker is out for anytime. So lets hope he is ok

[Kazkal]

Andre Smith looked like a beast when he was in there. He completely man handled Avril on that Ochocinco TD reception. Avril beat Roland on one of those sacks BTW.

The run defense doesn't look nearly the same without Peko. I think Peko is the second most important player on the team.

Wish they would have threw him in more during this stretch,I was wondering did anyone notice that livings was starting but they were still bringing in Mathis for special teams?(including kickoffs) then had him in 3rd qrt until he fell down to the ground? Just wondering if they were trying to spare him as much as possible or if "livings" was simply the starter.

Crocker had an MRI not sure how he is doing. This is not good i dont like this going into the Minn game, i would love to be healthy. I think they may need to get another saftey on this team if Crocker is out for anytime. So lets hope he is ok

For the Injurys we've had doing great to be 9-3 but it's starting to get Paper thin :/...that would be scary if Peko,Crocker and maybe even tank out for the vikings : /

Well, I think the TE play is worthy of bashing, in that Dan Coats ought to be run out of Cincy on a rail. Foschi has been a bit of a surprise, IMHO, and hasn't gotten quite the praise he deserves. He's quietly been pretty good. As for passing TDs, we now, have, what 16 in 12 games? Not exactly knocking 'em dead. So I think that's a legit observation.

Agreed Foschi has been a great suprise like many of our other "scrap iron" guys ! Really don't mind him at all and look for Keep him & Coffman next year then more likely bring in a blocking TE.

[HoosierCat]

but I don't think my criticism of the negativity is misplaced when right after a win that makes us 9-3, we've got another thread talking about offensive ineptitude.

Well, Pong's threads do need to be taken with a grain* of salt.

* grain = piece of salt the size of Gibralter.

[BengalszoneBilly]

but I don't think my criticism of the negativity is misplaced when right after a win that makes us 9-3, we've got another thread talking about offensive ineptitude.

Well, Pong's threads do need to be taken with a grain* of salt.

* grain = piece of salt the size of Gibralter.

[derekshank]

Every year I see this board dominated by negativity about our team and a lot of prayers for other teams to make our lives easier and more comfortable. I say screw that noise. Be critical of the problems and hope for the best, but damn, can we have some faith? Can we revel in our wins no matter how ugly? Can we stride with confidence? Do we really need to torture ourselves over who the Browns beat?

What the hell are you talking about? No one is torturing themselves. I'm merely pulling for the Browns to beat a team that also controls it's own destiny. It's not being overly negative to hope for a best possible case scenario. The Bengals can win out... but even if they don't, can get the bye week anyway. Why not cheer for all of it?

I think you are reading a bit too much into this. Read through my posts. I'm as optimistic as they come. But I'm allowed to cheer for whomever I damn well please if I think it can in any way help the Bengals cause.

I think you are taking my post WAY too personally. I am talking in generalities and you're acting like I launched some kind of personal attack on you. I said this board, and many others for that matter, contain a level of negativity that I find shocking. If that does not apply to you it does not apply to you. I didn't even suggest I, or anyone else, could tell you who you could and could not root for. Where in my post did I suggest otherwise? YOu have every right to root for half the league if you want and more power to ya. I want us to win the bye without anyone's help. If to you the best case scenario is the Browns helping us win a bye, that's fine and I'll be perfectly happy if it happens to play out that way. To me, the best case scenario is the Bengals winning the bye without the help of anyone.

Nah, I'm not taking it personally. I just think it is way out of line to say someone rooting against the Chargers is negative or that they have no confidence in the Bengals. Sure, I think the Bengals are capable of winning out. I also think they are capable of beating Oakland, Houston, and Denver. Having confidence that they are able to do something and making the assumption that they will are very different.

And for the record, I don't know a single fanbase that doesn't cheer against other teams that are also in position to compete with them. I can think of no fanbase more arrogant than the Steelers, and I remember listening to them cheering their asses off for Baltimore to lose to Dallas last year because it would mean clinching the division a week earlier. Everyone does it, and it has nothing to do with a lack of confidence in your own team. Nearly all fans cheer for other teams to help pave their way.

[cincyhokie]

Peko is most likely having his knee scoped but will be back for the playoffs. We need Peko back ASAP and I think he will be. I was at the game and I am fairly certain that I saw Mathis playing late in the game, which is good. I also saw Crocker on the sidelines walking around which means he wasn't in the locker room with his injury.

Let's hope for the best.