membengal Posted October 27, 2009 Report Posted October 27, 2009 For a guy who engendered a lot of bitching (especially for a 6th round pick) on draft day on this board, all I have seen is a big physical corner who is covering receivers like a blanket and has turned into a special teams demon. As near as I can tell, he's now the 3rd corner, David Jones is a rumor with regard to seeing the field, and Crocker can go back to safety duties more or less full time.Not bad at all for a 6th round pull. Quote
Pidge Posted October 27, 2009 Report Posted October 27, 2009 I had no clue who he was and therefore had no expectations of him or bitching about him. For a 6th rnd guy he's been excellent. Hopefully he's a keeper going forward. Quote
redsbengalsbucks Posted October 27, 2009 Report Posted October 27, 2009 I was a little skeptical, he lacked experience coming out of college, but he has shown he can learn quickly. Quote
Ickey44 Posted October 27, 2009 Report Posted October 27, 2009 I've only really seen him play in the last two games. Andre Johnson pretty much raped him in the Texans game, which is to be expected. But he did do well against the Bears and I remember he made a couple of good breakups in the Ravens game. I'd say so far he's doing well, but they shouldn't be leaving him out there one on one with receivers like AJ. That's just stupid. Quote
semiotter Posted October 27, 2009 Report Posted October 27, 2009 Goes to show us that lower round players are Diamonds in the rough sometimes Quote
Stripes Posted October 27, 2009 Report Posted October 27, 2009 Goes to show us that lower round players are Diamonds in the rough sometimesI'd wager the Bengals have found more of them than most teams lately too. It seems like every year a late round pick is contributing something for us.2009 - Morgan Trent (6th round)2008 - Corey Lynch (6th)2007 - Chinedum Ndukwe (7th)2006 - Ethan Kilmer (7th)2005 - Tab Perry (6th), Johnathan Fanene (7th) Quote
Ickey44 Posted October 27, 2009 Report Posted October 27, 2009 Goes to show us that lower round players are Diamonds in the rough sometimesI'd wager the Bengals have found more of them than most teams lately too. It seems like every year a late round pick is contributing something for us.2009 - Morgan Trent (6th round)2008 - Corey Lynch (6th)2007 - Chinedum Ndukwe (7th)2006 - Ethan Kilmer (7th)2005 - Tab Perry (6th), Johnathan Fanene (7th)I don't recall Corey Lynch or Ethan Kilmer doing much for us. I know Kilmer returned an INT for a TD a couple of years ago against the Saints, but other than that I don't know. Quote
Stripes Posted October 27, 2009 Report Posted October 27, 2009 I don't recall Corey Lynch or Ethan Kilmer doing much for us. I know Kilmer returned an INT for a TD a couple of years ago against the Saints, but other than that I don't know.Lynch was the least impactful of those I listed, probably. Kilmer was only a difference maker in his rookie season, but he was a nasty special teamer. I might venture to say his special teams performance that year was the best we've seen this decade. Quote
Pidge Posted October 27, 2009 Report Posted October 27, 2009 Let's hope this late rounder doesn't suffer an injury that renders him almost completely useless on his return.Players not picked on the first day probably make up the bulk of starters in the league - could be wrong. No idea where one could find those kind of stats. Is there a single team in the league where the majority of the 54 is from rnds 1 & 2. Nup. Scouting is crucial. Quote
TJJackson Posted October 27, 2009 Report Posted October 27, 2009 Kilmer was only a difference maker in his rookie season, but he was a nasty special teamer.Correct, pretty much injured after that. Did have that nice return for a TD against the Saints, as mentioned earlier, as wellI might venture to say his special teams performance that year was the best we've seen this decade.Uhm noLook at the picture ever so slightly to the left, please.As you can see, Mr. Myles would like to have a word or two with you Quote
Ickey44 Posted October 27, 2009 Report Posted October 27, 2009 Kilmer was only a difference maker in his rookie season, but he was a nasty special teamer.Correct, pretty much injured after that. Did have that nice return for a TD against the Saints, as mentioned earlier, as wellI might venture to say his special teams performance that year was the best we've seen this decade.Uhm noLook at the picture ever so slightly to the left, please.As you can see, Mr. Myles would like to have a word or two with youWhat's the deal with your man-crush on Reggie?Dude's been gone for years. Quote
HairOnFire Posted October 27, 2009 Report Posted October 27, 2009 Morgan Trent? Yeah, I'll eat a little crow on that one. Trent was easily my least favorite draft pick, although I conceded withoput argument how he had the physical skills needed to play CB in the NFL. But I simply didn't see a guy with the instincts and experience needed to play well quickly, and after the draft I described Trent as a rookie version of Delta O'Neal, a CB who needed to be completely torn down and rebuilt.....something I wasn't convinced would happen at all no matter how much time passed. But Kevin Coyle has seemed to manage that trick quite nicely and very quickly....just as he managed to do with O'Neal. Props. Quote
Kazkal Posted October 27, 2009 Report Posted October 27, 2009 I didn't mind the pick and had Faith Kevin Coyle could coach him up who has experiance working with corners no one wanted...Trent has the tools just needs to learn how to use them which he has been. Quote
Sea Ray Posted October 27, 2009 Report Posted October 27, 2009 I consider the Morgan Trent success a dividend from having depth which this franchise has so lacked over the years. Because we already had a couple 1st rd CBs and depth at S we didn't have to press Trent into a heavy workload. We could work him in as a nickle back likely against another team's 3rd or 4th WR. He also doesn't get over exposed. This is the way successful teams develop players. This is how a succesful team's roster works. Quote
TJJackson Posted October 27, 2009 Report Posted October 27, 2009 What's the deal with your man-crush on Reggie?Dude's been gone for years.well, keep in mind that I was responding to someone who used the phrase "the best we've seen this decade"emphasis on decadeso yeah, I get to go back to 2000 to compare Quote
SupaBran Posted October 27, 2009 Report Posted October 27, 2009 Morgan Trent has def. been a sweet surprise! He makes me forget about David Jones! Quote
COB Posted October 27, 2009 Report Posted October 27, 2009 Who?Some guy on the Bengals not named Chad, you don't need to think about him. Quote
BlainThePain Posted October 27, 2009 Report Posted October 27, 2009 For a guy who engendered a lot of bitching (especially for a 6th round pick) on draft day on this board, all I have seen is a big physical corner who is covering receivers like a blanket and has turned into a special teams demon. As near as I can tell, he's now the 3rd corner, David Jones is a rumor with regard to seeing the field, and Crocker can go back to safety duties more or less full time.Not bad at all for a 6th round pull.Yeah, I don't remember who it was, but somebody was doing some major bitching that we should have taken Mike Mickens, Rashad Jennings, or Trevor Canfield over Morgan Trent. Then I read the Bengals draft grade from Walterfootball.com (who is the only "draft guru" that I take serious) and he loved the pick saying that he thought he should have been a fourth round pick, and as of right now, it looks like he was right.By the way, Rashad Jennings only has 60 rushing yards, and Mike Mickens and Trevor Canfield are practice squad players. Quote
Kazkal Posted October 27, 2009 Report Posted October 27, 2009 Draftnick tends to tear apart drafts when it comes to lower round selections Quote
membengal Posted October 27, 2009 Author Report Posted October 27, 2009 Draftnick tends to tear apart drafts when it comes to lower round selections Quote
HairOnFire Posted October 28, 2009 Report Posted October 28, 2009 Yeah, I don't remember who it was, but somebody was doing some major bitching that we should have taken Mike Mickens, Rashad Jennings, or Trevor Canfield over Morgan Trent. Just for the record, that's not my rant. My own possibly misguided nickleback fantasies were built around Asher Allen in the 3rd round. Quote
derekshank Posted October 28, 2009 Report Posted October 28, 2009 Who?Some guy on the Bengals not named Chad, you don't need to think about him. In fairness... agreen also loves Henry.In fact, I'd wager that if Trent robbed a liquor store and punched Carson Palmer during the bye week, he'd quickly become agreen's new favorite. Quote
TJJackson Posted October 28, 2009 Report Posted October 28, 2009 I'd wager that if Trent robbed a liquor store and punched Carson Palmer during the bye week, he'd quickly become agreen's new favorite.Agreen would like it even better if he attacked and injured a woman or two, and posted cross dressing pictures of himself on the Interwebs Quote
HoTbOy Posted October 28, 2009 Report Posted October 28, 2009 Going against either CHenry or ACaldwell in practice will also help him get better...Just like the rest of the D he has stepped it up... Quote
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