Official Episode #2 Thread

[agreen_112]

Henry went at Roy Williams and shoved him pretty hard in the back when they were both returning to the huddle.. He's tough and doesn't put up with crap. That's good, I want that attitude on my team. Just don't do it if the refs are looking cause he would've got 15 yards..

Palmer v2.0 said at the end of the episode "I want to compete for a starting postition." Competition is good, I like it. It's funny he said that though.

85 looks great. His McDonald's diet is worse than I thought. He ordered Hotcakes and sausage and TWO muffin sandwhiches with a large orange juice. Then you seen him eating large fries and then later a big mac... He had a good conversation with Marvin about how to invest his money. Marv gave him a lesson on how banks work. One of the funniest parts of the show was when Chad was busting Coles' balls. He said "He be in that spaceship." Apparently Coles rests at night or for naps in some big oxygen bag that zips up around him like a cacoon.

Coffman's new nickname is crash-test dummy. That was pretty funny. Man, he has a lot to learn. I'm a little concerned with Coffman.

Palmer's dry sense of humor is hilarious. The stink hand bit was really funny. The gatorade bit was also funny... Palmer is a smart dude. He's a mad genius at running this offense. He knows it like the back of his stinky ass hand.

Ndukwe needs to listen and do what the coaches are trying to tell him. Crocker, Williams, and then him on the depth chart is the way it should be. He has a lot to improve upon, hopefully the depth chart will humble him. He seems hard headed.

[membengal]

I, unlike many of you, am decidedly UNconcerned about Coffman.

I suspect, what we are seeing, is the absolutely normal hazing (in terms of coaches riding them) and learning curve that all rookies go through as they go through their first camp and enter into the league.

[ShulaSteakhouse]

I, unlike many of you, am decidedly UNconcerned about Coffman.

I suspect, what we are seeing, is the absolutely normal hazing (in terms of coaches riding them) and learning curve that all rookies go through as they go through their first camp and enter into the league.

Yeah I think a lot of that is that they want him to be their guy at TE now and he needs to learn quickly. I did not know about Hayes' relationship with Coffman's family, and thus a lot of the ribbing (you move like old people f**k, lol).

I'm rooting for Chase, he's big enough to be a blocker, but apparently that won't come soon as he has to work on his strength, as even Marvin was laughing saying he gets pushed around a lot. (but if you noticed, he was able to also make some nice blocks on people - during Saints game knocked a guy to the ground and piled on him)

Just a lot of potential there.

[walzav29]

I'm not worried about Coffman either. If they didn't think he could handle this they wouldn't be riding him. 1 more thing about Katie. I have a fear that if she takes over it'll make Mike Browns time seem like the good old days. Someone needs to get the bit from Chappelle show we're Charlie Murphy said, "He had sex with Katie"

[agreen_112]

I, unlike many of you, am decidedly UNconcerned about Coffman.

I suspect, what we are seeing, is the absolutely normal hazing (in terms of coaches riding them) and learning curve that all rookies go through as they go through their first camp and enter into the league.

Oh yeah, I agree completely. BUT, you have to admit the dude doesn't look like he's ready to be a starting TE in the NFL. Instead, he looks far from it. That's my $.02 after two episodes and a pre-season game.. We'll see tonight.

[Ickey44]

I, unlike many of you, am decidedly UNconcerned about Coffman.

I suspect, what we are seeing, is the absolutely normal hazing (in terms of coaches riding them) and learning curve that all rookies go through as they go through their first camp and enter into the league.

Oh yeah, I agree completely. BUT, you have to admit the dude doesn't look like he's ready to be a starting TE in the NFL. Instead, he looks far from it. That's my $.02 after two episodes and a pre-season game.. We'll see tonight.

He's gonna have to get ready fast, he may not have a choice whether he's ready or not.

[ArmyBengal]

Assuming his injury is better, yes he's ready to be the pass catching TE the Bengals knew they were getting when they drafted him.

The blocking TE ?? Yeah, he needs work, but everyone including Coffman himself is well aware of this and they will simply continue to work.

It's not they have many options after that anyway. I think they certainly will be cruising the waiver wires...

[BengalByTheBay]

I'm really surprised, honestly, that there isn't more pumpkin bashing today. I have never been all that hard on the Browns (it's their team, blah, blah, blah) because I'm just not all that intrigued by the business side of the sport, but pumpkin is perhaps the worst negotiator I have ever seen. Why Keels was even taking her call is questionable, but that scene made him look completely reasonable. All she has to say is "its sooooooo much money" which is like listening to a simpleton. Yeah, it's all a lot of money, now let's talk about how a deal actually gets done pookie. I just don't see how the Bengals can hold any negotiating leverage when they refuse to pay more than the 7 slot got. For that matter, what the hell does "we want a deal more in line with the rest of the draft" even mean? You wanna pay the 6 guy like he was the 10? WTF? She is turrible. It will get done, and for more than Bey's deal, and then the Bengals will look like idiot "hardballers" who always cave. Count me fully in the camp of those saying the Bengals need a professional to negotiate draft pick deals -- she's a trainwreck.

[COB]

Henry still has a lot of punk in him.

The only thing I can think of that would prompt your comment was the shove he delivered to Roy Williams' back. I don't think that puts Henry in a bad light. That's just football practice, they had a misunderstanding falling down and Henry retaliated. Just don't do it during a game and it's all ok.

[BengalByTheBay]

Henry still has a lot of punk in him.

The only thing I can think of that would prompt your comment was the shove he delivered to Roy Williams' back. I don't think that puts Henry in a bad light. That's just football practice, they had a misunderstanding falling down and Henry retaliated. Just don't do it during a game and it's all ok.

I look at it the other way, actually. The discussion about it between the two of them was to the effect that Henry thought Williams threw him down after the play was over (not a completely unreasonable belief if you saw the play). Roy says, nah you were working me out of bounds so I popped you. It's two guys playing hard and mixing it up a little in camp. I like Henry standing up for himself in that spot, especially since he was blocking at the time.

The "punk" comment only makes sense with reference to the post-TD crowd taunting crap that the coaching staff is clearly trying hard to get out of him. Good luck with that one...

[derekshank]

My immediate impressions were:

I thought Marvin looked really good in this episode. Seemed like he had good rapport with the coaching staff, and a couple passionate speeches during/after the preseason game.

Carson continues to build relationships with his WR's with his dry sense of humor (i.e. sideline conversation with Coles about being in his 30's).

Chad came off as really dumb not knowing how a bank works. Did he never attend an economics class while at Oregon State?

Mike Brown did not seem to have a sense of humor at all. Marvin made a joke about Brown saying "Child, Please" and the whole room laughed... except him.

Ndukwe came off as a hard worker... but slow learner.

Coffman looked like he's still limping from time to time. Not sure if it's his foot or is pride that's injured.

[BengalByTheBay]

Mike Brown did not seem to have a sense of humor at all. Marvin made a joke about Brown saying "Child, Please" and the whole room laughed... except him.

Wouldn't he have to have a sense of humor to have said it though? Not laughing at your own joke doesn't mean you don't have a sense of humor. What I don't believe is that he even said it in the first place.

[derekshank]

Mike Brown did not seem to have a sense of humor at all. Marvin made a joke about Brown saying "Child, Please" and the whole room laughed... except him.

Wouldn't he have to have a sense of humor to have said it though? Not laughing at your own joke doesn't mean you don't have a sense of humor. What I don't believe is that he even said it in the first place.

That was the joke. Mike Brown didn't say "Child, Please." Marvin just said he did. Unless you thought Marvin was being serious... which would mean it wasn't a joke at all.

[BengalByTheBay]

Mike Brown did not seem to have a sense of humor at all. Marvin made a joke about Brown saying "Child, Please" and the whole room laughed... except him.

Wouldn't he have to have a sense of humor to have said it though? Not laughing at your own joke doesn't mean you don't have a sense of humor. What I don't believe is that he even said it in the first place.

That was the joke. Mike Brown didn't say "Child, Please." Marvin just said he did. Unless you thought Marvin was being serious... which would mean it wasn't a joke at all.

You're assuming Marvin was just joking and Brown didn't say it. He could've said it and Marvin just repeated it for the room. Like I said above, it does seem beyond Brown to have that kind of sense of humor, but I don't know the guy. He could be more fun than a barrel of monkeys over a beer. He could also be self-deprecating enough to have said it and seen the humor in it. Your assumption could be right, I don't think you could tell one way or the other from the exchange on the show. There's no debating the point that Brown is about as lifeless as they come.

[membengal]

I'm really surprised, honestly, that there isn't more pumpkin bashing today. I have never been all that hard on the Browns (it's their team, blah, blah, blah) because I'm just not all that intrigued by the business side of the sport, but pumpkin is perhaps the worst negotiator I have ever seen. Why Keels was even taking her call is questionable, but that scene made him look completely reasonable. All she has to say is "its sooooooo much money" which is like listening to a simpleton. Yeah, it's all a lot of money, now let's talk about how a deal actually gets done pookie. I just don't see how the Bengals can hold any negotiating leverage when they refuse to pay more than the 7 slot got. For that matter, what the hell does "we want a deal more in line with the rest of the draft" even mean? You wanna pay the 6 guy like he was the 10? WTF? She is turrible. It will get done, and for more than Bey's deal, and then the Bengals will look like idiot "hardballers" who always cave. Count me fully in the camp of those saying the Bengals need a professional to negotiate draft pick deals -- she's a trainwreck.

Low-hanging fruit. What more can really be said?

[HairOnFire]

Mike Brown did not seem to have a sense of humor at all. Marvin made a joke about Brown saying "Child, Please" and the whole room laughed... except him.

My favorite moment in the entire show.

[agreen_112]

Henry still has a lot of punk in him.

The only thing I can think of that would prompt your comment was the shove he delivered to Roy Williams' back. I don't think that puts Henry in a bad light. That's just football practice, they had a misunderstanding falling down and Henry retaliated. Just don't do it during a game and it's all ok.

I bet he's talking about the "thuggish" twang to Henry's speech... Get use to it, that'll never change.

[kingwilly]

I'm really surprised, honestly, that there isn't more pumpkin bashing today. I have never been all that hard on the Browns (it's their team, blah, blah, blah) because I'm just not all that intrigued by the business side of the sport, but pumpkin is perhaps the worst negotiator I have ever seen. Why Keels was even taking her call is questionable, but that scene made him look completely reasonable. All she has to say is "its sooooooo much money" which is like listening to a simpleton. Yeah, it's all a lot of money, now let's talk about how a deal actually gets done pookie. I just don't see how the Bengals can hold any negotiating leverage when they refuse to pay more than the 7 slot got. For that matter, what the hell does "we want a deal more in line with the rest of the draft" even mean? You wanna pay the 6 guy like he was the 10? WTF? She is turrible. It will get done, and for more than Bey's deal, and then the Bengals will look like idiot "hardballers" who always cave. Count me fully in the camp of those saying the Bengals need a professional to negotiate draft pick deals -- she's a trainwreck.

Low-hanging fruit. What more can really be said?

But it is a core issue.

Really pathetic in my book. She could never lose her job, she's "pumpkin" or snuggles or princess or snowflake or whatever...

[HairOnFire]

Regarding Henry......(snicker).....I thought Lewis summed it up very well in the closed coaches meeting when he spoke about Henry not being a smart player. There's a visible lack of trust there, and it's not hard to see why even if you ignore all of Henry's personal baggage.

[volcom69]

This show just shows how retarted this front office is lol, it just shows what a joke they really are.

[BengalByTheBay]

Regarding Henry......(snicker).....I thought Lewis summed it up very well in the closed coaches meeting when he spoke about Henry not being a smart player. There's a visible lack of trust there, and it's not hard to see why even if you ignore all of Henry's personal baggage.

I distinctly recall watching a video of an interview with Henry when he first arrived to training camp as a rookie. He could hardly put two words together, to the point that it appeared Hobson prematurely ended the interview because there were no questions that he could answer rationally. He seems to have learned a few cliches since then to help him survive interviews, but he's not going to be curing cancer anytime soon. For that matter, while Chad always has plenty to say, I'm not convinced he's much smarter than Henry.

[ArmyBengal]

Henry seems to have learned a few cliches since then to help him survive interviews

Yeah, like the awesome way he described turning his life around and making a complete 360 to start doing the right things.

Seriously though, I hope good things for his dumb ass.

[HairOnFire]

Regarding Henry......(snicker).....I thought Lewis summed it up very well in the closed coaches meeting when he spoke about Henry not being a smart player. There's a visible lack of trust there, and it's not hard to see why even if you ignore all of Henry's personal baggage.

I distinctly recall watching a video of an interview with Henry when he first arrived to training camp as a rookie. He could hardly put two words together, to the point that it appeared Hobson prematurely ended the interview because there were no questions that he could answer rationally. He seems to have learned a few cliches since then to help him survive interviews, but he's not going to be curing cancer anytime soon.

They don't need Henry to cure cancer. But Lewis's remark about Henry not being a smart football player was made in response to other coaches pointing out how well he played against the Saints, AND how many drops he had in the last week of practice. So not only is Henry seen as slow learner with some pretty immature work habits, but as a player who can't be trusted to produce consistently.

[Sea Ray]

I think Henry is going to have a big year and bail us out of a few sticky situations. He nearly did exactly that vs the Steelers in 2006 (thanks Shane), but he'll never be a Phi Beta Kappa.

If he catches a couple TD passes vs the Steelers do we really care about this other stuff?

[DC_Bengals_Fan]

I'm really surprised, honestly, that there isn't more pumpkin bashing today.

Two reasons:

1) The material this week is the same as last week. Same stupidity, same reasons.

2) It's not really sporting. Kind of like going to the Special Olympics to make fun of the gimps.