What's your stance?

[agreen_112]

This may be the stupidest post ever, but it seemed like a good idea at the time. Just copy and paste the list into your post. This will give us one thread that shows how each of us feel about certain topics... Feel free to add anything I missed.

Should the Bengals Trade Chad Johnson?

Should the Bengals Re-sign TJ Housh?

Should we fire Marvin?

Should we fire the Off. Cordinator?

Def. Cordinator?

Is Mike Brown the root of all there is to blame?

Is Carson Palmer going backwards/Should we seek a backup?

Should the Bengals let Rudi Johnson go?

Big Willie?

Justin Smith?

M. Williams and Dexter Jackson?

Deltha?

Would you give Odell Thurman another chance if he's able to come back?

Is Chris Henry the young phenom or a stupid son-bitch?

Do you still Trust In Marvin?

2008 1st Round Draft Pick - Offense or Defense (or best avail. like McFadden)?

Do you hate the Steelers, Browns, or Ravens with a passion?

Free Agents or The Draft?

Most Importantly, How long have you been a Bengals Fan?

[Bengals1]

This may be the stupidest post ever, but it seemed like a good idea at the time. Just copy and paste the list into your post. This will give us one thread that shows how each of us feel about certain topics... Feel free to add anything I missed.

Should the Bengals Trade Chad Johnson? - They shouldn't look to trade Chad but if someone like Chicago comes calling in the offseason and dangels a fine defensive player in our face yes, we should listen.

Should the Bengals Re-sign TJ Housh? Yes, absolutely!

Should we fire Marvin? - Not unless somebody demonsterably better comes along.

Should we fire the Off. Cordinator? - Yes.

Def. Cordinator? Oh hell yes!!

Is Mike Brown the root of all there is to blame?- Yes...yes a thousand times YES!!

Is Carson Palmer going backwards/Should we seek a backup? - No, he just needs better game plans.

Should the Bengals let Rudi Johnson go?-Yes, he's clearly lost a step

Big Willie?- Yes, old and injured

Justin Smith?- Yes, he's simply not worth the money he'll demand.

M. Williams and Dexter Jackson?- Yes and yes.

Deltha?- Yes!!!

Would you give Odell Thurman another chance if he's able to come back?- Yes, otherwise we're no better than Goodell.

Is Chris Henry the young phenom or a stupid son-bitch?-Both.

Do you still Trust In Marvin?-Not as much but he's not the demon some posters make him out to be either.

2008 1st Round Draft Pick - Offense or Defense (or best avail. like McFadden)?- Best available defensive player.

Do you hate the Steelers, Browns, or Ravens with a passion?-Yes!!!!!!

Free Agents or The Draft?-Both, you can't win with a team full of rookies and you need to to build for the long term thru the draft.

Most Importantly, How long have you been a Bengals Fan?- Since the mid-'70s.

[CJBestInAFC]

Should the Bengals Trade Chad Johnson? No, just because he is not having a great season I think he deserves another chance, and if he plays the same next year then get rid of him.

Should the Bengals Re-sign TJ Housh? Yes, because the Bengals don't want to go into next season with CJ and CH as the starters and a rookie wr.

Should we fire Marvin? No, but next season is either make a break.

Should we fire the Off. Cordinator? Yes the offense is way too predicatable. Why did they move away from throwing short passes in the first drive? They consistently do not make changes in the game plan especially after halftime.

Def. Cordinator? As much as many want a new D cordinator I think Chuck has done better in the last 4 games, so I would put him on a make or break leash for next season.

Is Mike Brown the root of all there is to blame? I would say yes because he continually won't go after top tier free agents that can make a difference, instead he wastes money on free agents that are on the decline and are just looking to cash in.

Is Carson Palmer going backwards/Should we seek a backup? I would say no to this one. I think Carson is the franchise and should remain the qb for the future. I think with little to no running game is crippling the offense because the offense is very predictable when they can't run the football.

Should the Bengals let Rudi Johnson go? Yes I think he is the main problem with the offense. He is slow, doesn't block well, and cant catch the football out the backfield. I think when he is in the game the offense becomes even more predictable than when Watson or Dede are in there.

Big Willie? He needs to go or take a pay cut. How much did he help the Bengals this year besides the bs comments he likes to make after a loss? I think this was one of the biggest wastes of money this season, and having him on the roster hurts players like Whitworth (who I believe would have a been a good replacement for Willie) and Stacy Andrews maturation.

Justin Smith? Another waste of space and money this year. 2 sacks this year, yeah that was money well spent.

M. Williams and Dexter Jackson? I would keep M. Williams because he has experience and has been inconsistent this year, but he is the most solid S they have on the team. I know Ndukwe has played well, but he doesn't play for the full game like M. Williams does. Jackson should have been cut in the offseason before this season started. He is slow, doesn't tackle well, can't tackle, and talks too much trash that his ass can't cash.

Deltha? I would like for him to come back, but this might be a perfect time for him to be traded in the offseason for a draft pick.

Would you give Odell Thurman another chance if he's able to come back? Yes they gave Chris Henry multiple chances, so why not Odell. He is better than 90% of players on the defense and if they lose Landon in the offseason they are going to need someone to come in that is familiar with the D.

Is Chris Henry the young phenom or a stupid son-bitch? I think a little bit of both. Let me answer this question after this offseason.

Do you still Trust In Marvin? Some what, but my trust has been slowly disapearing this season.

2008 1st Round Draft Pick - Offense or Defense (or best avail. like McFadden)? I think they should go D. I like Kenny Phillips who would help a lot. I think they go DT and DE in the next two rounds.

Do you hate the Steelers, Browns, or Ravens with a passion? Yes I hate all with a passion, but I do like the Browns the most out of those three because their recent history has been a lot like the Bengals. I hate the Steeelers the most out of any team ever.

Free Agents or The Draft? I like Kenny Phillips a lot in the first round. He would be a major upgrade over Dexter, and Phillips would be able to start from day one. Obviously Haynesworth would be a nice addition in free agency, and it would give the Bengals flexibility in the draft. Now if they let Tj go after the season I wouldn't mind someone like Brandon Stokely who catches the ball very well. I also like Jared Allen, and I don't care about his DUI problem. He gets to the QB on a consistent basis something that Busin Smith can't do.

Most Importantly, How long have you been a Bengals Fan? All my life, I am 28 so 28 years I have been a fan of the Bengals.

[DC_Bengals_Fan]

Should the Bengals Trade Chad Johnson?

Not unless they get value, so I'd wait to let some desperate team make a move

Should the Bengals Re-sign TJ Housh?

Hell yes. Is that even a question?

Should we fire Marvin?

Always need to know who you want to hire before you fire anybody. This looks to be a weak year for coaches.

Should we fire the Off. Cordinator?

No.

Def. Cordinator?

Do we have one now?

Is Mike Brown the root of all there is to blame?

Yes, including war in the mid-east.

Is Carson Palmer going backwards/Should we seek a backup?

Carson needs to work on his mechanics from what I saw last night, I think playing behind a bad line is teaching him some bad habits like throwing off his back foot. We don't need a QB controversy. I wouldn't even have a backup; what's the point? This team goes as far as Carson goes.

Should the Bengals let Rudi Johnson go?

I want to see what he can do when healthy. Bring him to camp for sure.

Big Willie?

Does it matter? Can the guy even walk anymore? He may be done.

Justin Smith?

Probably get rid of him. He underperforms against good linemen, and 'motor' is a euphemism for 'out of position on nearly every play'.

M. Williams and Dexter Jackson?

I'm starting to think Dexter is braindead. Madieu - I can't tell if he can't cover, or Chuck's schemes are just that bad. Could be both.

Deltha?

Don't see why we should get rid of him. He seems to play well coming off the bench for some reason. Good nickelback at least.

Would you give Odell Thurman another chance if he's able to come back?

No, I like Landon being far and away our best LB, despite the fact he wouldn't start for most teams. If Odell can play, give him a chance.

Is Chris Henry the young phenom or a stupid son-bitch?

Yes.

Do you still Trust In Marvin?

I'm not one for blind trust. Results speak for themselves, for good or bad.

2008 1st Round Draft Pick - Offense or Defense (or best avail. like McFadden)?

If we draft another damned RB on day one, I will personally take a pipe to Mike Brown. If it's offense, it better be an OT. Otherwise, D.

Do you hate the Steelers, Browns, or Ravens with a passion?

Ravens? Not so much anymore since we own them. Browns? They've sucked so long they're hard to hate (plus Romeo's a good guy). Squealers? With every bit of my soul.

Free Agents or The Draft?

Winning by paying for FAs almost never works. Build through the draft, fill in the gaps with FA.

Most Importantly, How long have you been a Bengals Fan?

Since I can remember? I don't know. Early to mid-80s for sure. 85 season is probably the first I can really remember.

[ArmyBengal]

Should the Bengals Trade Chad Johnson? --> I would still say no, but I think if a team wanted to offer something ridiculous on the defensive side of the ball along with picks, then it would have to be considered. I still don't think it will happen regardless...

Should the Bengals Re-sign TJ Housh? --> YES, he is one of the few that shows some desire on the field and just comes to play !!!

Should we fire Marvin? --> This year ?? No. I will give a pass this season due to injuries and suspensions, but if this sh*t happens next season, I will be more than happy to get rid of his asspiece !!!

Should we fire the Off. Cordinator? --> Depends on the day... Sometimes I think the offensive playcalling is horrible and then at other times they look amazing. It wouldn't bother me to see him shown the door...

Def. Cordinator? --> GET RID OF THIS F*CKING GUY !!! HE IS AN EMBARRASSSMENT TO THIS ORGANIZATION !!!

Is Mike Brown the root of all there is to blame? --> While I don't know exactly how he does business, it doesn't take a genious to figure out regardless of how he does it, it's not very good...

Is Carson Palmer going backwards/Should we seek a backup? --> NO and NO !!!

Should the Bengals let Rudi Johnson go? --> As much as he has been a favorite of mine, it wouldn't bother me to see him traded either. I think we could get something in return for him, but I to would at least like to see him in camp next year.

Big Willie? --> I still can't believe they threw all that cash at him. I also think letting Steinbach go was a HUGE mistake...

Justin Smith? --> Bye bye loser... What another waste of money...

M. Williams and Dexter Jackson? --> I would like to see Madeiu come back, but NO to DJ...

Deltha? --> If he gets over the "I want a big payday" I think he would be a great nickel for us, but besides that, get lost...

Would you give Odell Thurman another chance if he's able to come back? --> How could you not want to at least give this guy the chance to play again ?? What is there on the LB corps that is so stellar that you would think he should be given a chance ??

Is Chris Henry the young phenom or a stupid son-bitch? --> Young, stupid, son-of-a-bitch, phenom...

Do you still Trust In Marvin? --> Hated that saying from the start and I'll give him one more season...

2008 1st Round Draft Pick - Offense or Defense (or best avail. like McFadden)? --> Best defensive player available. Anything else will make me absolutely go postal !!!

Do you hate the Steelers, Browns, or Ravens with a passion? --> Steelers-YES, Ravens-YES, Browns- YES, but if I were going to root for any of those teams, it would be the Browns. Hell half my family in Cincy still roots for the Browns...

Free Agents or The Draft? --> Both. I think you have to have a mix to make it work...

Most Importantly, How long have you been a Bengals Fan? --> Well, I can remember my first game when I was about 4, but my dad had Bengals stuff in my room as a baby in 1970, so anywhere from 70-74 and haven't stopped NOT ONCE !!!

WHODEY !!!

[akiliklingler]

Should the Bengals Trade Chad Johnson? Yes!!! Talent level; best player on the team - every other attribute; one of the worst players on the team.

Should the Bengals Re-sign TJ Housh? Definately. A true AFC North receiver.

Should we fire Marvin? - Give him one more year.

Should we fire the Off. Cordinator? - No - injuries, suspensions, and pouting have damaged this offense.

Def. Cordinator? Should have fired him last year.

Is Mike Brown the root of all there is to blame? Yes!!!!!! Unfortunately nothing will ever change w/ him at the helm.

Is Carson Palmer going backwards/Should we seek a backup? CP's having a down year, but still is one of the top 5 QB's in the league.

Should the Bengals let Rudi Johnson go? Yes - he's done.

Big Willie? Yes.

Justin Smith? Yes - extremely overrated. Has a high motor so he can catch up to guys and tackle them 20 yards downfield.

M. Williams and Dexter Jackson? Probably Madieu and Dexter is the #1 guy they need to get rid of.

Deltha? #2 guy they need to get rid of.

Would you give Odell Thurman another chance if he's able to come back? Yes, but not at MLB.

Is Chris Henry the young phenom or a stupid son-bitch? Both.

Do you still Trust In Marvin? Not really, but there's no one specifically I'd rather have.

2008 1st Round Draft Pick - Offense or Defense (or best avail. like McFadden)? Defense.

Do you hate the Steelers, Browns, or Ravens with a passion? Yes, but not as much as I hate Mike Brown.

Free Agents or The Draft? I'd give our draft selections a D grade and our free agents an F grade - pick your poison.

Most Importantly, How long have you been a Bengals Fan? 29 years.

[membengal]

This test is too long.

My stance is not wide. I ain't no Idaho senator.

[COB]

Should the Bengals Trade Chad Johnson?

If we can get anything good for him by the end of the season.

Should the Bengals Re-sign TJ Housh?

Our number one receiver? Heck yes.

Should we fire Marvin?

No.

Should we fire the Off. Cordinator?

Depends on who we can get to replace him.

Def. Cordinator?

Yes, doesn't matter who we can get to replace him. Justin Smith inadvertantly said it on national tv, "Our stuff never seems to work."

Is Mike Brown the root of all there is to blame?

Forces of nature that are beyond anyone's control don't get me down. Complain about Mike Brown? Might as well complain about the sun coming up.

Is Carson Palmer going backwards/Should we seek a backup?

He's fine.

Should the Bengals let Rudi Johnson go?

Yup. At his peak he was just barely where we needed him to be. He's not at his peak anymore.

Big Willie?

He'll have joint replacement surgery before he'll see another pro bowl. That said, I'd love to see him come back next year as assistant line coach.

Justin Smith?

Arrest him for theft by deception.

M. Williams and Dexter Jackson?

Jackson is gone. Bring Williams back and let him compete.

Deltha?

He certainly believes he's not coming back. His tutelage set J Joe back a year. Goodbye.

Would you give Odell Thurman another chance if he's able to come back?

Yes.

Is Chris Henry the young phenom or a stupid son-bitch?

Our number 2 receiver? He's a phenom. Part of what makes him phenomenal is how stupid he is. Most of the cells destined for his brain were ciphoned off and used to develop athletic ability.

Do you still Trust In Marvin?

Hard... to... type... this... ... ... yes.

2008 1st Round Draft Pick - Offense or Defense (or best avail. like McFadden)?

D tackle or D end. If incredible impact safety is available, ok.

Do you hate the Steelers, Browns, or Ravens with a passion?

Steelers? I respect them. Their grotesque fans I absolutely hate. Also, their new coach is, I believe, hugely overrated and will be the cause of a gradual decline that has already begun. They've lost to the cardinals, the broncos, and the jets. They should be better. Ravens and Browns - it depends on how they're playing, what their players are saying, who their players are stabbing, etc.

Free Agents or The Draft?

The draft.

Most Importantly, How long have you been a Bengals Fan?

[HairOnFire]

My stance is three-pointed. Thanks for asking.

Should the Bengals Trade Chad Johnson?

The question of whether they should no longer matters. They've said they won't and I don't doubt 'em.

Should the Bengals Re-sign TJ Housh?

Absolutely.

Should we fire Marvin?

No, but I agree next season is a make or break year. That said, if this team really does blow things up it may result in a step backards before it can move forward in a stronger version.

Should we fire the Off. Cordinator?

Mixed feelings. There are factors that explain some of the offensive struggles, but the cracks began appearing last season and there seem to be few answers. In fact, despite their talent the Bengals offense no longer seems to have any reliable strength.

Def. Cordinator?

I've been impressed with how well the defense has played for the last month, but Bres has had enough time to turn things around and hasn't come close. In addition, the defense will almost certainly lose several players who were once considered building blocks so the time seems ripe for wholesale change.

Is Mike Brown the root of all there is to blame?

Well, this message board is proof that simply mentioning Mike Brown's name makes people stupid.

Is Carson Palmer going backwards/Should we seek a backup?

The numbers say no, but Carson Palmer has had a crappy season....which is reaason enough to shake things up on the offensive side of the ball. The OT situation needs sorted out, the running game is a mess, and the receiving corp boasts more drama queens than a typical episode of Deperate Housewives. That said, I'm satisfied with the backup situation. Palmer is incredibly durable and Fitz and Rowe are young and smart.

Should the Bengals let Rudi Johnson go?

Probably, for numerous reasons, but mostly due to the cap savings that could be banked.

Big Willie?

Probably. If his condition can't be healed, as rumored, it's a certainty.

Justin Smith?

There's no way I'd consider tagging him a 2nd time and no progress has been made in regards to signing him long-term. Wave goodbye.

M. Williams and Dexter Jackson?

I wouldn't shed a single tear if both left.

Deltha?

Everything I read and hear claims he's done here, but his play has been solid. More importantly, he's due to make 1.7 million next season...peanuts for a CB. So if it's left up to me I'd let him play out his contract...meaning he stays one more season.

Would you give Odell Thurman another chance if he's able to come back?

Hell yeah, and no apologies. As a rookie the guy was the highest impact player on the Bengals defense.

Is Chris Henry the young phenom or a stupid son-bitch?

Both.

Do you still Trust In Marvin?

Not entirely, but IMHO he's earned a chance to turn things around.

2008 1st Round Draft Pick - Offense or Defense (or best avail. like McFadden)?

I lean heavily towards defense, but would rule nothing out.

Do you hate the Steelers, Browns, or Ravens with a passion?

Usually, but as of late I'd say the passion has been beaten out of me....leaving me uncomfortably numb.

Free Agents or The Draft?

For this franchise? The draft.

Most Importantly, How long have you been a Bengals Fan?

Since rumors were floated about Cincy, Paul Brown, and a proposed AFL expansion team.

[BengalszoneBilly]

This may be the stupidest post ever. *Hardly.*

Should the Bengals Trade Chad Johnson? *Not just no, but hell no!*

Should the Bengals Re-sign TJ Housh? *Not just yes, but hell yes!*

Should we fire Marvin? *I've re-thought this, and now I say no. I think he just needs more GOOD help.*

Should we fire the Off. Cordinator? *No.*

Def. Cordinator? *That should have been done a long time ago.*

Is Mike Brown the root of all there is to blame? *I blame him for the Bengals problems, Hip-Hop, and the problems in the middle east.*

Is Carson Palmer going backwards/Should we seek a backup? *No/got one.*

Should the Bengals let Rudi Johnson go? *He is past his prime obviously, but here I'm not sure.*

Big Willie? *Good leader, but he too is getting long in the tooth.*

Justin Smith? *I say keep him for now.*

M. Williams and Dexter Jackson? *Madieu stays and Dexter goes.*

Deltha? *Stays.*

Would you give Odell Thurman another chance if he's able to come back? *He's worth another chance!*

Is Chris Henry the young phenom or a stupid son-bitch? *A phenom who I feel has smartened up somewhat.*

Do you still Trust In Marvin? *No. I'm all outta his brand of kool-aide.*

2008 1st Round Draft Pick - Offense or Defense (or best avail. like McFadden)? *I say take the best available lineman - offense or defense. Football is won in the trenches, and the Bengals are more often than not getting whipped there. Put Palmer behind as good a line as he had in '05, and we'll be right back in the playoffs!*

Do you hate the Steelers, Browns, or Ravens with a passion? *The Steelers I dislike most for their mocking of the "Who-Dey chant.*

Free Agents or The Draft? *Both, but wisely, and therin lies the trouble.*

Most Importantly, How long have you been a Bengals Fan? *Since their birth in '68! I was ten years old then, and getting mighty tired of waiting for a Lombardi trophy to show up in Cincinnati. Paul came close, but I think Mikey just ain't got what it takes. He thinks just because his last name is "Brown" it's a given. He couldn't be more wrong. Mikie couldn't lead a thirsty horse to water. *

[Jet23]

Should the Bengals Trade Chad Johnson? Everyone has a value. For a high #1, I would say yes

Should the Bengals Re-sign TJ Housh? yes

Should we fire Marvin? Never going to happen, so it is futile to even think about it.

Should we fire the Off. Cordinator? Not this year. Alexander, Bresh and Hayes should go first.

Def. Cordinator? Yesterday

Is Mike Brown the root of all there is to blame? Absolutely

Is Carson Palmer going backwards/Should we seek a backup? Never a bad idea to have a veteran #2. Carson may be in the early stages of Bengalization.

Should the Bengals let Rudi Johnson go? Yes

Big Willie? Close

Justin Smith? Not for the current money

M. Williams and Dexter Jackson? Bad and Worse. Both positions need to be upgraded

Deltha? 1 more year.

Would you give Odell Thurman another chance if he's able to come back? Yes

Is Chris Henry the young phenom or a stupid son-bitch? Both

Do you still Trust In Marvin? I have never trusted that Marvin would be given the latitude to make a significant difference. I do wish he would get tough (as promised).

2008 1st Round Draft Pick - Offense or Defense (or best avail. like McFadden)? Defense, as long as they don't reach. So, I guess that would be best available. It's not like they do not need help everywhere.

Do you hate the Steelers, Browns, or Ravens with a passion? Steelers, BY FAR!

Free Agents or The Draft? Free Agents, Lippy and Coop are stressed out.

Most Importantly, How long have you been a Bengals Fan? 27+ years.

[Stripes]

Should the Bengals Trade Chad Johnson?

No, but the idea isn't absurd. I'd rather keep Chad than spend a first rounder on a WR though, and I don't trust Henry as a long term replacement.

Should the Bengals Re-sign TJ Housh?

Definitely.

Should we fire Marvin?

No. Give him one more year.

Should we fire the Off. Cordinator?

Absolutely not.

Def. Cordinator?

Yes, if only for a change in culture. I wouldn't expect that to make a huge difference though.

Is Mike Brown the root of all there is to blame?

He played a major role in the team's struggles from 1991 through 2002. In the much more relevant present? Not at all.

Is Carson Palmer going backwards/Should we seek a backup?

No and no. Palmer is trying to do too much this season, but what choice does he have? Jeff Rowe was drafted to be the backup, and Fitzpatrick ought to offer some competition.

Should the Bengals let Rudi Johnson go?

No. With two injury proned RBs behind him and a still unproven Kenny Watson, I don't see how anyone could want this. He has had quite a poor season for sure, but that happens to good players every year. Let him stink up the field next year before we consider this.

Big Willie?

No. Same deal. One off year with injuries to boot.

Justin Smith?

Yes, but only for cap reasons. He's a good player.

M. Williams and Dexter Jackson?

No and yes. Madieu has been inconsistent, but he's one of the few young defensive talents we have. Dexter has been near-Ohalete bad this year.

Deltha?

Yes. It's quite apparent the coaching staff is ready to move foward without him, and I don't blame them.

Would you give Odell Thurman another chance if he's able to come back?

Of course. I think the Bengals would be completely ridiculous to refuse him at least a chance.

Is Chris Henry the young phenom or a stupid son-bitch?

Neither. He's a solid young receiver with an impressive arrest history behind him.

Do you still Trust In Marvin?

I don't have Trust with a capital T for anyone on the football team. I believe he's capable of turning this around, and ought to have one more year to prove it. I'm not going to build him a statue of chewed gum in my closet though.

2008 1st Round Draft Pick - Offense or Defense (or best avail. like McFadden)?

Best available at any position outside QB. ANY position.

Do you hate the Steelers, Browns, or Ravens with a passion?

I used to, but I just don't care anymore. A football team is a football team.

Free Agents or The Draft?

Both, with more long term interest in the draft.

Most Importantly, How long have you been a Bengals Fan?

Mid '90s.

[BengalByTheBay]

This may be the stupidest post ever, but it seemed like a good idea at the time. Just copy and paste the list into your post. This will give us one thread that shows how each of us feel about certain topics... Feel free to add anything I missed.

Should the Bengals Trade Chad Johnson?

They won't so my opinion doesn't matter.

Should the Bengals Re-sign TJ Housh?

probably

Should we fire Marvin?

no

Should we fire the Off. Cordinator?

no

Def. Cordinator?

yes

Is Mike Brown the root of all there is to blame?

no

Is Carson Palmer going backwards/Should we seek a backup?

jeff rowe is already on the roster

Should the Bengals let Rudi Johnson go?

depends on cap issues - he's losing a step

Big Willie?

depends on cap issues - he's lost a step and won't recover from the microfracture

Justin Smith?

he's gone i think

M. Williams and Dexter Jackson?

i think madieu still has something there and shouldn't cost a lot

dj - no

Deltha?

no

Would you give Odell Thurman another chance if he's able to come back?

i probably would, but i don't think the bengals will

Is Chris Henry the young phenom or a stupid son-bitch?

yes

Do you still Trust In Marvin?

as much as ever

2008 1st Round Draft Pick - Offense or Defense (or best avail. like McFadden)?

defense

Do you hate the Steelers, Browns, or Ravens with a passion?

next questions

Free Agents or The Draft?

draft

Most Importantly, How long have you been a Bengals Fan?

since you were knee-high to a shula

[agreen_112]

Great responses, keep 'em coming... HOF's was by far the most entertaining. I enjoy reading your opinions and I can respect what you have to say... Although I may not agree 100%.

Thanks Billy for confirming it's not the worst post ever.

For the most part, we all seem to be on the same page. After all, we all love the Bengals! Who Dey in '08!!!

[agreen_112]

[HairOnFire]

Great responses, keep 'em coming... HOF's was by far the most entertaining.

Thanks, but in my heart I know I'll never be able to top...."I'm not going to build him a statue of chewed gum in my closet though."

[fazs2000]

Should the Bengals Trade Chad Johnson? No. Find him a receivers' coach who won't tolerate childish behavior. But then again the same could be said for most of the team.

Should the Bengals Re-sign TJ Housh? Yes.

Should we fire Marvin? No.

Should we fire the Off. Cordinator? No.

Def. Cordinator? Yes, and Marvin himself should take over the play-calling.

Is Mike Brown the root of all there is to blame? Yes.

Is Carson Palmer going backwards/Should we seek a backup? He's not even in his prime yet. He's allowed to have an off-year without a running game and without a defense for the first half of the season.

Should the Bengals let Rudi Johnson go? No, just tell him to gain back the 30 pounds he lost and tell him to be Rudi Johnson and stop trying to be like Reggie Bush. That means hit the hole hard and stop dancing around.

Big Willie? Use a first or second round pick this year on his replacement, let Willie groom him, then let him retire.

Justin Smith? Yes. The guy isn't a bust, but he's close. For God's sake he was taken with the pick BEFORE LaDainian Tomlinson. He should be Dwight Freeney, and instead he's not even Robert Mathis.

M. Williams and Dexter Jackson? Keep Williams, get rid of Dexter. He's a horrible influence on the maturity of the defense.

Deltha? Keep him.

Would you give Odell Thurman another chance if he's able to come back? The guy is a stud, so yes.

Is Chris Henry the young phenom or a stupid son-bitch? Stupid son-bitch. Until he grows up he won't do anything. And I don't see him maturing on or off the field any time soon.

Do you still Trust In Marvin? Yes, very much.

2008 1st Round Draft Pick - Offense or Defense (or best avail. like McFadden)? Best available, unless it's a WR or CB.

Do you hate the Steelers, Browns, or Ravens with a passion? Not the teams, just their obnoxious fans.

Free Agents or The Draft? The draft is more important, but free agents can provide a nice, temporary fix for a playoff run.

Most Importantly, How long have you been a Bengals Fan? 17 years.

[BengalszoneBilly]

Free Agents or The Draft? The draft is more important, but free agents can provide a nice, temporary fix for a playoff run.

I think Randy Moss will be temporarily fixing New England's "playoff run" for many years to come. Basically it was a well thought out and solid move for the Patriots. Undeniably money well spent.

Now asking Mike Brown to put together those aformentioned attributes together for any one free agent deal for Cincinnati is about as likely as Jessica Alba showing up at my house willing to throw me a bang, and the wife saying "Sure...go for it!"

[rudi32]

Should the Bengals Trade Chad Johnson? If the right offer comes along, they should consider a move. Having said that, the guy does have 77 catches for 1100 yards and that's a "down" year.

Should the Bengals Re-sign TJ Housh? He produces, so they should keep him. Having said that, TJ is 30 years old (when the Bengals usually dump WRs) and has had some injury history. Top it off at three years.

Should we fire Marvin? Although I think a change could do some good, I fear that the replacement may come from the bargain bin.

Should we fire the Off. Cordinator? Brat's may not be the greatest, but you could do a lot worse. Keep him.

Def. Cordinator? Bresnahan may be the worst defensive coordinator in the league. Send him packing.

Is Mike Brown the root of all there is to blame? He's the only constant since the last playoff win in 1991. Do the math.

Is Carson Palmer going backwards/Should we seek a backup? He's having a down year. He will bounce back.

Should the Bengals let Rudi Johnson go? I'd like to think that Rudi is slowed by injury, and given the Bengals' medical staff's track record, that is entirely possible. Make him compete for a job at training camp.

Big Willie? I questioned it when they signed him to a long-term deal, especially in lieu of bringing Steinbach back. I'm afraid he'll be fighting injuries for the rest of his playing days.

Justin Smith? He may be the most overpaid player in the league this year. Let Justin test the free agent waters.

M. Williams and Dexter Jackson? Keep Madieu. He's played better recently. Jackson is awful. Cut him now.

Deltha? He wants out of here, and they won't re-sign him. It's a shame too, because with his more limited role, he's played well recently. He must have a concentration problem or something.

Would you give Odell Thurman another chance if he's able to come back? I'd give him a chance because of his talent, but I wouldn't plan anything around him.

Is Chris Henry the young phenom or a stupid son-bitch? As a third wideout against nickel backs, he has done well. I don't know how he would do week-in and week-out against starting corners.

Do you still Trust In Marvin? No, not any more. "I see better than I hear." I see a team that is out played and out coached.

2008 1st Round Draft Pick - Offense or Defense (or best avail. like McFadden)? Defense.

Do you hate the Steelers, Browns, or Ravens with a passion? In the end, it's just a game -- no reason to "hate" any one. I respect the Steelers sustained success. I like the way the Ravens accumulate defensive stars. The Browns? They are the next Bengals (all offense, no defense). As a result, they won't go far.

Free Agents or The Draft? Dare I say both?

Most Importantly, How long have you been a Bengals Fan? Since 1980.

[BengalPappaw]

This may be the stupidest post ever, but it seemed like a good idea at the time. Just copy and paste the list into your post. This will give us one thread that shows how each of us feel about certain topics... Feel free to add anything I missed.

Should the Bengals Trade Chad Johnson? No. He just needs some leadership.

Should the Bengals Re-sign TJ Housh? Yes -- there aren't many WR who are willing/able to catch over the middle

Should we fire Marvin? No don't trust Mike Brown to do any better than Marvin.

Should we fire the Off. Cordinator? Not sure -- we need more variety in the play calls.

Def. Cordinator? YES! We need to get more agressive -- and Marvin must allow the Def Coord. the freedom to be aggressive.

Is Mike Brown the root of all there is to blame? YES!!! No doubt in my mind that the decisions he makes create an attitude of mediocrity

Is Carson Palmer going backwards/Should we seek a backup? No, he just needs make the corrections. We have seen him do the job and he still has the skills. I think he is pressing too much, trying to get the ball to Chad.

Should the Bengals let Rudi Johnson go? Yes, it that time.

Big Willie? Maybe

Justin Smith? No, but he needs to be the a rotation with some younger DEs.

M. Williams and Dexter Jackson? Williams -No; Jackson - YES

Deltha? No. If he is willing to be the "nickle back" I'd be happy.

Would you give Odell Thurman another chance if he's able to come back? Yes but I'd put him at OLB

Is Chris Henry the young phenom or a stupid son-bitch? YES!! You just described the person and the problem

Do you still Trust In Marvin? No too much BS. Not being enough of a coach -- trying to be a nice guy. Needs to take control

2008 1st Round Draft Pick - Offense or Defense (or best avail. like McFadden)? Offense -No; Mc Fadden NNNNOOOO!!!

Defense -- Sedrick Ellis,DT, if we stay at "6". If we slip and end up at 3 or 4 -- then we need Chris Long, DE. At either position a trade down for another high round pick might be worthwhile.

Do you hate the Steelers, Browns, or Ravens with a passion? YES!!!!

Free Agents or The Draft? YES -- Albert Haynesworth

Most Importantly, How long have you been a Bengals Fan? Some time I think too long -- Since '67 -- yes before they were an official team

[HoosierCat]

Oddly enough...I pretty much agree with Hair.

[BengalszoneBilly]

Oddly enough...I pretty much agree with Hair.

***Billy runs to bathroom to unload his pants ***

[kingwilly]

Should the Bengals Trade Chad Johnson?

Despite the proclamations of the front-office, it could happen. It would be sad, as I think Chad is about as talented a guy in the league. BUT he is mentally weak and gives up when it gets hard. Working hard to get good is not a problem for him, executing when the chips are on the line is what he lacks . If they do consider moving him, it would need to be this year, before he becomes damaged goods or proves to be a real cancer...at this point the biopsies say he is benign.

Should the Bengals Re-sign TJ Housh?

Yes. He is a true proefessional as he does not choke or whine like 85. He's not a #1 WR, so he will need another strong athlete to let his game work if CJ is moved.

Should we fire Marvin?

Let's see how the season ends up. After the win over the Titans I thought he had gained the team back...now, it appears to have been a tenuous grip. He has been bitten by the injury bug and made several poor choices in the draft that he is paying for now. If we lose out, it will be a sour late winter in Cincy and the natives will be restless. it will all hang in the balance in 08 if he comes back.

Should we fire the Off. Cordinator?

Probably. Will they? No.

It is easy to want to go freaking crazy passing the daylights out of everyone with Carson, CJ, TJ and Henry but it just does not work. Brat is a one trick pony who does not have the discipline to manage a decent, balanced game. He makes little to no half-time adjustments and ends up far too predictable. If not for the raw talent on this squad he'd have been run out of town long ago.

Def. Cordinator?

Yes. Will they? Yes. Despite the injuries, the schemes do not work. The game plans do not work. Ever. Blind squirrels find nuts more than this Defense can win a game. Yes, they show up now and again but Bres's D has never dominated a team they shouldn't have. f**k, he should have been fired after last years SD implosion. buh-BYE! good luck in the arena league.

Is Mike Brown the root of all there is to blame?

Pretty much. He is still the guy at the wheel with final say over just about all aspects of the team. Except for operating in the socialist monopoly of the NFL, Mike Brown would have run any other business directly into the ground with his decision making.

Is Carson Palmer going backwards/Should we seek a backup?

No, not backwards but not quite forwards. Pretty much stalled out. This is what happens when you combine a rubber-stamped Bres gameplan with bad offensive draft decisions and injuries. He will rebound and be fine for many years.

Should the Bengals let Rudi Johnson go?

Yep, and it makes me a bit sad. Not as sad as watching Rud-three line up 9 yards deep..shuffle to the line...stagger a bit and then get pushed down. It is over. The man's tank is dry. He would be smart to recognize that this O is not built for him and make the sound business decision to initiate his exit himself. Go somewhere where he can get 10-15 carries a game in an offense built to run...say Miami or the Texans or Seattle. He could play 5 more years like that. If he stays he won't make the 09 team and won't have any options.

Big Willie?

Also yes. Also sad. A real anchor who's time has come. Tip of the hat, a firm handshake and see you at the reunions.

Justin Smith?

hmmm...I think he is a good football player just not a good DE. I think he has been mis-used his whole career. I think he really is a LB. A very big, strong LB. As an end he is just too un-skilled...one move, right at you....snooze your way to almost no productivity. If his job is to get to QB's then he should be fired. If his job is to run around and terrorize an offense, put him at LB and give him some vivarin.

He should be gone as a DE. He's just not worth the ching at end.

M. Williams and Dexter Jackson?

No and Yes.

Madieu needs a better SS to pair with, that or switch him to nickel and get a real FS. If we cut Deltha, move Madieu to nickel and sign a FA FS.

Dex has no game. I think he is exposed as such in the Bres "no-touchies" zone. If he goes to a real tampa-2 scheme with a good coach, then he can be managed. Here he is too dumb and lacking in talent to freelance to any great effect.

Deltha?

The point made about his cost is reason to consider keeping him. Unless he ends up injured or pissy he is good value and another rookie CB to replace him will get burned up next year like Hall did most of this seaason. So, I am indifferent on Deltha.

Would you give Odell Thurman another chance if he's able to come back?

Yes. he got jobbed by goodell. He will take some time to get back into playing form but what can it hurt? Just don't count on him until he is dressed on a Sunday.

Is Chris Henry the young phenom or a stupid son-bitch?

He has always been a young phenom. Now, can he outgrow the stupid part? maybe but he must prove it. Either way, with Tab IR'd twice, and Chatman with the most sensitive hammies in NFL history, we should consider a late round (r5+) WR.

Do you still Trust In Marvin?

Not until he shows he can manage a game properly and can make good draft decisions. He is on double secret probation for nowand must earn back the trust. He bruned up his trust-equity with his drafts.

2008 1st Round Draft Pick - Offense or Defense (or best avail. like McFadden)?

I say D all the way but if Jake Long or Ryan Clady are there OT would be ok too. Sedrick Ellis works for me. If we dump Justin, Calais Cambell could work.

If they don't like how irons looks in March and if Rudi is cut they can take a depth RB somewhere late. Marcus Thomas from UTEP is a sleeper. Tony Temple from Mizzou could add good depth.

Do you hate the Steelers, Browns, or Ravens with a passion?

I hate no team more than Pitt. The Browns are just annoying and the rat-birds are in our pocket.

Free Agents or The Draft?

Well, this draft will set the tone till 2010, so I say the draft. However, if we want to get to 11-5 and make some noise we need some FA's. A good DT (Haynesworth) and maybe a TE who can catch/motor would really solve two big issues in quick order. ML should feel the heat to win so look for us to be more active in FA.

Most Importantly, How long have you been a Bengals Fan?

Since my dad had a SB party when the Bengals went to the SB at the Silverdome. We had Cheyenne Social Club ribs and I drank 8 Barq's red creams watching us lose that SB. been bitten ever since.

[BigBenBlows]

AM' post='228749']

This may be the stupidest post ever, but it seemed like a good idea at the time. Just copy and paste the list into your post. This will give us one thread that shows how each of us feel about certain topics... Feel free to add anything I missed.

Should the Bengals Trade Chad Johnson?

NO!!!

Should the Bengals Re-sign TJ Housh?

Yes

Should we fire Marvin?

Not yet

Should we fire the Off. Cordinator?

Brat has been ok in the past, we just need to get our '05 swagger back

Def. Cordinator?

FU*K YES!! Hopefully as soon as the Dolphins game is over.

Is Mike Brown the root of all there is to blame?

yes as he always has been

Is Carson Palmer going backwards/Should we seek a backup?

He's fine we need better protection for him

Should the Bengals let Rudi Johnson go?

No we need a 1-2 punch with him and Watson like we had with Icky & Brooks

Big Willie?

Probably so, he is gettin to old for the NFL

Justin Smith?

I think it depends on where we draft

M. Williams and Dexter Jackson?

Keep em both if we can afford to

Deltha?

Let him play his contract out

Would you give Odell Thurman another chance if he's able to come back?

We played alot better D when we had him. Why not?

Is Chris Henry the young phenom or a stupid son-bitch?

Like alot of others said BOTH

Do you still Trust In Marvin?

Im reallly losing confidence

2008 1st Round Draft Pick - Offense or Defense (or best avail. like McFadden)?

Defense

Do you hate the Steelers, Browns, or Ravens with a passion?

I HATE HATE HATE the Stealers, Browns are OK, Ravens don't really bother me either

Free Agents or The Draft?

Both

Most Importantly, How long have you been a Bengals Fan?

Im 30 yrs old so, as long as I can remember

[BengalBax]

Should the Bengals Trade Chad Johnson? Maybe. The guy needs to grow up fast, and decide whether he wants to be a pro football player or a comedian. I just have no respect for the guy becuase he has no killer instinct. You wanna tell me this guy is a 1/4 as tough as Hines Ward? C'mon, get real. He can run streak patterns and catch the ball over his shoulder really good, he sucks at clutch catches and anything 5 feet from the sidelines.

Should the Bengals Re-sign TJ Housh? Yes Yes Yes. He is as tough as nails.

Should we fire Marvin? Not yet. If he doesn't win next season, yes. Notice I said we "should". Mike Brown will NOT fire him though. Mike has stated how he hates firing coaches so badly...cause his daddy was fired and it was a awful feeling. Well, your Dad would roll over in his grave Mikey if he saw the 20.00 suits you wear out in public you cheap b@stard!

Should we fire the Off. Cordinator? Undecided. I used to think he was a real good asset, now I don't know. I know one thing, quit letting Carson call vertical routes all game in the no huddle when they clearly aren't working.

Def. Cordinator? Yes. Just yes.

Is Mike Brown the root of all there is to blame? Not all, but a lot. He still refuses to get with the times.

Is Carson Palmer going backwards/Should we seek a backup? No question in my mind Carson is going backwards. How many late drives has Carson given us where we win or tie? 2 that I know of....05 Denver (missed extra point) and 04 Ravens. How many drives has carson thrown a int or failed to get us the win in 1 score games. Lots. 05 Buffalo, 06 Ravens, 07 Browns, 07 Cardinals, 04 Steelers, 04 Titans....lots more I am sure. That's not counting the games where our D plays well and the guy can't move the chains due to erratic throws like the Pitt game and the Tampa game last year. Just make 1 game winning drive..PLEASE. That is what makes great QBs.

Should the Bengals let Rudi Johnson go? No, but make him a goal line back. Use Irons and Watson next year in a tandem and make this guy short yardage, but make him eat like a horse and gain 20 pounds.

Big Willie? The clock is ticking. Thanks for the memories...time to rebuild.

Justin Smith? Yes, go back to the farmlands, drink budweiser and chase cattle all day. Underachiever.

M. Williams and Dexter Jackson? No to Williams, yes to D Jax.

Deltha? Yes. Too erratic.

Would you give Odell Thurman another chance if he's able to come back? Sure. Brooks is not the answer. Too laid back, no work ethic, no killer instinct.

Is Chris Henry the young phenom or a stupid son-bitch? Young phenom. On raw talent alone, best player on offense.

Do you still Trust In Marvin? For now yes. Injuries have been bad past couple of years. 1 more year for this guy.

2008 1st Round Draft Pick - Offense or Defense (or best avail. like McFadden)? Defense. DT or MLB please.

Do you hate the Steelers, Browns, or Ravens with a passion? Steelers I hate the worst, then Browns, then Ravens.

Free Agents or The Draft? FA's. We always draft like sh!t.

Most Importantly, How long have you been a Bengals Fan? 19 years (since I was 14)