Dorsey in Stripes, Levi Pissed

[volcom69]

Well then he better start acting like the big toe before he losses this team cause right now thats where its heading, and i dont like that Levi is complaning to the media and so forth, but he is our best tackle besides willie of couse and ifs healthy then tell me why he cant play. Marvin is lossing my respect not that means anything, but i just feel no one is playing with heart besides a few players, im just sayin maybe a leader or someone on the team should call a meeting, but im not really sure if there is a true leader on the team.

[HoosierCat]

As for Marvin being a jerk, well, as far as the players go he isn't paid to be their bestest buddy, he's paid to be the head coach and get results.

Damn right! He isn't paid to be their bestest buddy -- HE'S PAID TO BE THE BIG TOE!

[DC_Bengals_Fan]

Mind you, I like Stacey too.....I am grateful we have the depth we do on the OL, particularly with all these injuries....but the best 5 are (in no particular order) Willie, Levi, Ghiaciuc, Williams, and Whitworth. I'd say Andrews and Kooistra are about even for the 6th spot - Andrews more athletic, Kooistra more experienced - and both are better than average quality backups.

I've not been impressed with them, especially Kooistra

[Kazkal]

Levi hasn't complained one bit about how much money he got. I have no idea where you got that idea

He's bringing up the contract alot and how if their paying him then why is he sitting.

It's probably hurting his pocket so he's spouting off.

[HairOnFire]

Levi is no longer hurt, he wants to play and earn his money, and yet he isn't. So what is your explainations as to why he isn't playing?

Uhhhh, he hasn't been 100% and Lewis didn't want to rush his return. End of story. No sign of a doghouse in the yard, or a coaches vendetta, and absolutely no reason for stupid talk of not fitting into the Bengals plans or hinting at a trade.

Shut up Levi. Just shut the hell up.

[HairOnFire]

If a coach comes to them when they are hurt and ask them to play, but when they are healthy but struggling for faults not all their own, treats the like garbage, how does that garner respect?

Again, where is this crap coming from? Exactly how has Marvin treated Levi like garbage?

[BengalszoneBilly]

I highly doubt Marvin or any of the other coaches are really mistreating Levi.

I agree with this. They aren't really treating any player very roughly no matter how well or badly they're playing. It's all equal.

[Spor_tees]

Levi is no longer hurt, he wants to play and earn his money, and yet he isn't. So what is your explainations as to why he isn't playing?

Uhhhh, he hasn't been 100% and Lewis didn't want to rush his return. End of story. No sign of a doghouse in the yard, or a coaches vendetta, and absolutely no reason for stupid talk of not fitting into the Bengals plans or hinting at a trade.

Shut up Levi. Just shut the hell up.

If Levi wasn't healthy do you really think he would play an entire garbage game at the end of preseason? Get real

[SkinneymulleT]

Well anyway, why are we complaining? With 3-D back in stripes, our running attack should be fearsome. The tandem of 3-D and KW...OOOWEEE BABY! Who needs 1st and 2nd round draft picks anyway. All they do is bitch bitch bitch or get hurt after 1 play.

[DC_Bengals_Fan]

Well anyway, why are we complaining? With 3-D back in stripes, our running attack should be fearsome. The tandem of 3-D and KW...OOOWEEE BABY! Who needs 1st and 2nd round draft picks anyway. All they do is bitch bitch bitch or get hurt after 1 play.

Now that's funny.

[ShulaSteakhouse]

Levi is no longer hurt, he wants to play and earn his money, and yet he isn't. So what is your explainations as to why he isn't playing?

Uhhhh, he hasn't been 100% and Lewis didn't want to rush his return. End of story. No sign of a doghouse in the yard, or a coaches vendetta, and absolutely no reason for stupid talk of not fitting into the Bengals plans or hinting at a trade.

Shut up Levi. Just shut the hell up.

If this were the case, I wish he would just come out and say it. Maybe Levi and everyone else wouldn't be wondering what the problem is then.

I don't really condone Levi speaking to the press about it as such, but, at the same time, I don't really mind players calling out this coaching staff for their inadequacies and questionable decision making either. Someone's gotta do it.

This reeks of a Paul Alexander dumbo move.

[Riagogogoindanati]

So the Bengals waived Dawson and re-signed Dorsey. What does this say about Rudi's injury? The way everyone (Jim Anderson) seemed to say about Dawson, I was kind of looking forward to seeing him (what are the chances he is signed to the pratice squad?)

Personally....I'm glad to see DD back.......I thought he looked great preseason 2006. Now he has more experience under his belt and knows what a SB ring looks like.

[alleycat]

Levi is no longer hurt, he wants to play and earn his money, and yet he isn't. So what is your explainations as to why he isn't playing?

Uhhhh, he hasn't been 100% and Lewis didn't want to rush his return. End of story. No sign of a doghouse in the yard, or a coaches vendetta, and absolutely no reason for stupid talk of not fitting into the Bengals plans or hinting at a trade.

Shut up Levi. Just shut the hell up.

There were a lot of reports that came out in the weeks following Porter's assault on Levi that he was really deeply disturbed by what happened to him. He sounds like he may have adopted a kind of paranoid victim complex, feeling like he's under attack when he isn't (like, um, imagining nine guys trying to jump him from behind out of the blue). In fact, it sounds a lot like Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. Maybe they should send him to a shrink?

[blueridge]

Levi is no longer hurt, he wants to play and earn his money, and yet he isn't. So what is your explainations as to why he isn't playing?

Uhhhh, he hasn't been 100% and Lewis didn't want to rush his return. End of story. No sign of a doghouse in the yard, or a coaches vendetta, and absolutely no reason for stupid talk of not fitting into the Bengals plans or hinting at a trade.

Shut up Levi. Just shut the hell up.

If this were the case, I wish he would just come out and say it. Maybe Levi and everyone else wouldn't be wondering what the problem is then.

I don't really condone Levi speaking to the press about it as such, but, at the same time, I don't really mind players calling out this coaching staff for their inadequacies and questionable decision making either. Someone's gotta do it.

This reeks of a Paul Alexander dumbo move.

You really are a fool, aren't you? Come on. Admit it. You will feel better. But you'll still be a dickweed.

[Stripes]

Chill with the mindless personal attacks, Blueridge.

[HairOnFire]

If Levi wasn't healthy do you really think he would play an entire garbage game at the end of preseason? Get real

What better place to get Levi his very first real playing time of the season? In fact, he had barely practiced to that point, and most of the Colt starters, and even most of their top backups, never sniffed the field that day.

BTW, if you want to keep it real I'd start by flipping your own question. Why would Marvin Lewis keep a completely healthy Levi Jones out of the lineup? And no fair making stuff up when you form your answer. For example, Lewis has never claimed or even hinted that Levi was in his doghouse.

[TJJackson]

Sweetie pie, one can speculate.....nothing wrong with a little speculation.

Do we need any bread or milk?

[Spor_tees]

If Levi wasn't healthy do you really think he would play an entire garbage game at the end of preseason? Get real

What better place to get Levi his very first real playing time of the season? In fact, he had barely practiced to that point, and most of the Colt starters, and even most of their top backups, never sniffed the field that day.

BTW, if you want to keep it real I'd start by flipping your own question. Why would Marvin Lewis keep a completely healthy Levi Jones out of the lineup? And no fair making stuff up when you form your answer. For example, Lewis has never claimed or even hinted that Levi was in his doghouse.

Marvin Lewis played an O-lineman that had just signed one of the largest contracts in the league, in a meaningless game full of guys that were playing like there was no tomorrow (because quite honestly there was no tomorrow for many of those guys), and is a hot bed for injuries. Why would Marvin play an already injured guy in a full game that is known to have a threat for injuries? Should I go through the list of other guys that were hurt through training camp that was eligible to play but didn't play the WHOLE game like Levi? You could throw half the receiving corps in that category. You are the ultimate agitator. You only ask confrontational questions but hardly ever have any points of your own that are made contrary to someone's point with substance. In fact on many occasions, some of the facts you have used for your points, you later admitted you guessed and turned out wrong. You remind me in lots of ways of those political parody shows like John Stewart and Steven Colbert. Little snid bits can be taken out of context to make a joke of, but yet the whole point is never looked at to show its context.

[HairOnFire]

You are the ultimate agitator. You only ask confrontational questions but hardly ever have any points of your own that are made contrary to someone's point with substance.

Put a diaper on....or shut up.

You've repeatedly ignored the fact that Levi was recovering from a fairly serious injury in favor of a..."Levi's unfairly doing time in the doghouse and Marvin's to blame"...rant that you conveniently pulled out of thin air, yet somehow you think it's fair to brand me as an agitator for refusing to believe the highly inflammatory and negative speculation you made up.

Kiss my ass.

[Spor_tees]

You are the ultimate agitator. You only ask confrontational questions but hardly ever have any points of your own that are made contrary to someone's point with substance.

Put a diaper on....or shut up.

You've repeatedly ignored the fact that Levi was recovering from a fairly serious injury in favor of a..."Levi's unfairly doing time in the doghouse and Marvin's to blame"...rant that you conveniently pulled out of thin air, yet somehow you think it's fair to brand me as an agitator for refusing to believe the highly inflammatory and negative speculation you made up.

Kiss my ass.

Once again...why would a player recovering from a "fairly serious injury" be playing in a garbage game where there is a serious threat to either agitate or re-injury himself? Personally I wouldn't like to piss away a 40 million dollar player, but hey that just makes sense.

I knew my point had been expressed in the media and here it is:

Sept. 7, 2007

Jones, Lewis not exactly seeing eye to eye in Cincinnati

For now, there is peace between OLT Levi Jones and head coach Marvin Lewis. But that relationship merits watching after Jones criticized the team following the preseason finale, wondering why he didn’t get more practice time leading up to the game after his surgically repaired left knee finally allowed him to get back on the field. Jones, still playing behind Andrew Whitworth even after returning from injury, also speculated about his future with the club. After Lewis criticized Jones’ estimation of how much practice time he received, Jones apologized for his comments. What’s more, we’re hearing it’s likely he’ll return to the starting lineup sooner than later, provided he’s healthy. But the uneasiness between Jones and the club that signed him to a lucrative contract extension a little more than a year ago continues to bubble beneath the surface. Jones played in only six games last season because of a knee injury, and Whitworth impressed when given a chance to play on the left side.

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You still haven't given a good reason why Levi, who up until the preseason finally wasn't allowed extended practice time yet was stuck in a garbage game to play significant time. If Levi wasn't in Marvin's doghouse, wouldn't it had made more sense to let him practice in a more controlled atmosphere where this is less likely a risk for injury than in the last preseason game? Willie Anderson who is always suffering from some injury and who hardly practiced or played during the preseason wasn't playing in that game yet started the openner.

[HairOnFire]

I knew my point had been expressed in the media and here it is:

Sept. 7, 2007

Jones, Lewis not exactly seeing eye to eye in Cincinnati

For now, there is peace between OLT Levi Jones and head coach Marvin Lewis. But that relationship merits watching after Jones criticized the team following the preseason finale, wondering why he didn’t get more practice time leading up to the game after his surgically repaired left knee finally allowed him to get back on the field. Jones, still playing behind Andrew Whitworth even after returning from injury, also speculated about his future with the club. After Lewis criticized Jones’ estimation of how much practice time he received, Jones apologized for his comments. What’s more, we’re hearing it’s likely he’ll return to the starting lineup sooner than later, provided he’s healthy. But the uneasiness between Jones and the club that signed him to a lucrative contract extension a little more than a year ago continues to bubble beneath the surface. Jones played in only six games last season because of a knee injury, and Whitworth impressed when given a chance to play on the left side.

Bulls**t. There's nothing in that nugget that even implies that Marvin has Levi in a proverbial dognouse which is the core of your silly rant. In fact, the nugget questions Levi's current state of health, saya he'll return to play as soon as he's healthy, reminds the reader that Levi apologized for his ridiculous remarks, and finishes by recapping how well Levi's replacement has played in his absence. In short, the nugget confirms everything I've said. (And nothing you've claimed.)

Again, put on a diaper or shut up.

[Spor_tees]

I knew my point had been expressed in the media and here it is:

Sept. 7, 2007

Jones, Lewis not exactly seeing eye to eye in Cincinnati

For now, there is peace between OLT Levi Jones and head coach Marvin Lewis. But that relationship merits watching after Jones criticized the team following the preseason finale, wondering why he didn’t get more practice time leading up to the game after his surgically repaired left knee finally allowed him to get back on the field. Jones, still playing behind Andrew Whitworth even after returning from injury, also speculated about his future with the club. After Lewis criticized Jones’ estimation of how much practice time he received, Jones apologized for his comments. What’s more, we’re hearing it’s likely he’ll return to the starting lineup sooner than later, provided he’s healthy. But the uneasiness between Jones and the club that signed him to a lucrative contract extension a little more than a year ago continues to bubble beneath the surface. Jones played in only six games last season because of a knee injury, and Whitworth impressed when given a chance to play on the left side.

Bulls**t. There's nothing in that nugget that even implies that Marvin has Levi in a proverbial dognouse which is the core of your silly rant. In fact, the nugget questions Levi's current state of health, saya he'll return to play as soon as he's healthy, reminds the reader that Levi apologized for his ridiculous remarks, and finishes by recapping how well Levi's replacement has played in his absence. In short, the nugget confirms everything I've said. (And nothing you've claimed.)

Again, put on a diaper or shut up.

If he wasn't healthy then why:

Jones criticized the team following the preseason finale, wondering why he didn’t get more practice time leading up to the game after his surgically repaired left knee finally allowed him to get back on the field

Sounds healthy enough to play.

Then once Levi realized he was in the doghouse which was the reason he wasn't playing, don't you think he would apologize so he could hopefully get to play???

Then lastly, if there wasn't still some tension then why would the author say:

But the uneasiness between Jones and the club that signed him to a lucrative contract extension a little more than a year ago continues to bubble beneath the surface.

Put on a diaper or shut up...I expected a better comeback than that from you.

[HairOnFire]

If he wasn't healthy then why:

Jones criticized the team following the preseason finale, wondering why he didn’t get more practice time leading up to the game after his surgically repaired left knee finally allowed him to get back on the field

Sounds healthy enough to play.

Actually, he's proven he's healthy enough to complain...then apologize....then complain some more.

Obviously this impreses you a great deal.

As for me, not so much.

[HairOnFire]

Then lastly, if there wasn't still some tension then why would the author say....

Stop it. Nobody has claimed that there isn't some tension or that Levi isn't happy at the moment. But so what? It only takes one person to throw a hissy fit and just because that person feels compelled to do so it doesn't make that person right. Oh, and that's especially true when he later apologizes.

Again, all you're doing is finding things that confirm what I've been saying.

So, is there any chance you'll find something...(anything)....that helps make your point about Marvin unfairly and mistakenly putting a healthy Levi in the doghouse? Because if not I'm just going to assume you're full of crap again.