Final Cuts

[HoosierCat]

What does it mean by "the team was awarded Elling"?

That there were multiple teams that put in a waiver wire claim on him and the Bengals were the highest.

[jjakq27]

What does it mean by "the team was awarded Elling"?

That there were multiple teams that put in a waiver wire claim on him and the Bengals were the highest.

Thank you.

[Ox]

Perry PUPped; Hartwell released

September 1, 2007

4 p.m.

The Bengals today made the following moves in reaching the NFL roster limit of 53 and here is the press release:

Traded an undisclosed conditional 2008 draft choice to the St. Louis Rams for QB Ryan Fitzpatrick, a third-year NFL player. Fitzpatrick (6-2, 225; Harvard) was a seventh-round Rams draft choice in 2005. He is in the final year of a three-year deal.

He played in four games with three starts in �f05, and played in one game last season. His career passing statistics are 76-for-135 (56.0%) for 777 yards with four TDs and eight INTs. He played in three of the Rams�f four preseason games (DNP in Game 2), passing 28-for-44 (63.6%) for 249 yards with one TD and two INTs.

At Houston in 2005, Fitzpatrick became the fifth player in NFL history to pass for 300 yards in a debut. He earned NFC Offensive Player of the Week honors, coming off the bench to pass for 310 in leading a 33-27 overtime victory. ��

Terminated the contracts of three veterans not subject to waivers, releasing them to free agency: --DT Kenderick Allen --LB Edgerton Hartwell --QB Doug Johnson

Waived four second-year players: -- WR Bennie Brazell of Louisiana State -- S John Busing of Miami (Ohio) -- WR Reggie McNeal of Texas A&M -- OT Alan Reuber of Texas A&M �� Waived three first-year players: --TE Tim Day of Oregon --G Nate Livings of Louisiana State --FB Chris Manderino of California �� Waived eight rookies: --HB Curtis Brown of Brigham Young --LB Earl Everett of Florida --WR Jesse Holley of North Carolina --DE Xzavie Jackson of Missouri --LB Matt Muncy of Ohio --G Harrison Nikolao of Eastern Washington --DT Matt Toeaina of Oregon --OT Dane Uperesa of Hawaii (Toeaina was a sixth-round Bengals choice in the 2007 draft, and the other seven waived rookies entered the NFL this year as college free agents.) �� Issued waivers (injured) on three players: --K Aaron Elling (fourth year; Wyoming) --CB Brandon Williams (first year; Michigan) --CB T.J. Wright (college free agent; Ohio) (If any of the three clear waivers with no injury settlement, they will revert to Cincinnati�fs Reserve/Injured list for continued rehabilitation.) �� Placed fourth-year HB Chris Perry of Michigan on the Reserve/Physically Unable to Perform list. Perry has not been cleared for practice in �f07, due to rehab from a dislocated ankle suffered last season. Perry will remain with the team for rehab and meetings, but may not practice. Beginning the week following Week 6 NFL play, he will be eligible to return to practice under a roster exemption. Upon returning to practice, he may work during a 21-day period, the end of which serves as a deadline for his non-exempt roster status to be determined. �� Moved third-year WR Chris Henry of West Virginia to the Reserve/Suspended by Commissioner list. It had previously been announced that Henry would be suspended for the first eight regular season games, for violation of NFL policies. PRACTICE SQUAD NOTE: All the players waived today (not including waived-injured) are eligible to be signed tomorrow to an NFL practice squad. The Bengals plan to announce tomorrow a practice squad of up to eight players.

http://www.bengals.com/news/news.asp?story_id=6242

[BengalszoneBilly]

Perry will remain with the team for rehab and meetings, but may not practice.

Good idea...

[Kazkal]

DT Matt Toeaina of Oregon --

NOooooooooooooo Not big toe.

[Ox]

What a bunch of great hype on Hartwell and Brazell. Nice knowing ya, hope you enjoyed camp.

[mgilgris]

Saturday, September 01, 2007

Bengals cut Johnson

From Bengals PR:

BENGALS TRIM ROSTER

TO NFL LIMIT OF 53

The Bengals today made the following moves in reaching the NFL roster limit of 53:

● Traded an undisclosed conditional 2008 draft choice to the St. Louis Rams for QB Ryan Fitzpatrick, a third-year NFL player. Fitzpatrick (6-2, 225; Harvard) was a seventh-round Rams draft choice in 2005. He is in the final year of a three-year deal.

He played in four games with three starts in ’05, and played in one game last season. His career passing statistics are 76-for-135 (56.0%) for 777 yards with four TDs and eight INTs. He played in three of the Rams’ four preseason games (DNP in Game 2), passing 28-for-44 (63.6%) for 249 yards with one TD and two INTs.

At Houston in 2005, Fitzpatrick became the fifth player in NFL history to pass for 300 yards in a debut. He earned NFC Offensive Player of the Week honors, coming off the bench to pass for 310 in leading a 33-27 overtime victory.

● Terminated the contracts of three veterans not subject to waivers, releasing them to free agency:

--DT Kenderick Allen

--LB Edgerton Hartwell

--QB Doug Johnson

● Waived four second-year players:

-- WR Bennie Brazell of Louisiana State

-- S John Busing of Miami (Ohio)

-- WR Reggie McNeal of Texas A&M

-- OT Alan Reuber of Texas A&M

● Waived three first-year players:

--TE Tim Day of Oregon

--G Nate Livings of Louisiana State

--FB Chris Manderino of California

● Waived eight rookies:

--HB Curtis Brown of Brigham Young

--LB Earl Everett of Florida

--WR Jesse Holley of North Carolina

--DE Xzavie Jackson of Missouri

--LB Matt Muncy of Ohio

--G Harrison Nikolao of Eastern Washington

--DT Matt Toeaina of Oregon

--OT Dane Uperesa of Hawaii

(Toeaina was a sixth-round Bengals choice in the 2007 draft, and the other seven waived rookies entered the NFL this year as college free agents.)

● Issued waivers (injured) on three players:

--K Aaron Elling (fourth year; Wyoming)

--CB Brandon Williams (first year; Michigan)

--CB T.J. Wright (college free agent; Ohio)

(If any of the three clear waivers with no injury settlement, they will revert to Cincinnati’s Reserve/Injured list for continued rehabilitation.)

● Placed fourth-year HB Chris Perry of Michigan on the Reserve/Physically Unable to Perform list. Perry has not been cleared for practice in ’07, due to rehab from a dislocated ankle suffered last season. Perry will remain with the team for rehab and meetings, but may not practice. Beginning the week following Week 6 NFL play, he will be eligible to return to practice under a roster exemption. Upon returning to practice, he may work during a 21-day period, the end of which serves as a deadline for his non-exempt roster status to be determined.

● Moved third-year WR Chris Henry of West Virginia to the Reserve/Suspended by Commissioner list. It had previously been announced that Henry would be suspended for the first eight regular season games, for violation of NFL policies.

PRACTICE SQUAD NOTE: All the players waived today (not including waived-injured) are eligible to be signed tomorrow to an NFL practice squad. The Bengals plan to announce tomorrow a practice squad of up to eight players.

[Kazkal]

Aye Hartwell is the only thing that really surprises me,Marvin or Mikey must really like lamar.

Kinda bothersome thing though is 3 of our top backers are 1 year deals,

[HoosierCat]

The Hartwell release is disappointing. So is the Perry PUP.

Quincy is in. So is Nate Lawrie. I'm a bit surprised they went with 3 TEs (yes I'm ignoring St. Louis) but I suppose they like Lawrie for STs. Maybe Reggie's tweak vs. Indy played a role.

But no real shockers, IMHO.

[BengalszoneBilly]

Thank GOD Doug Johnson is gone!

[Spor_tees]

Just remember, some of these guys that made the team today still might be on the bubble depending on what guys become available from other teams cuts. I really don't think Lawrie will be with the team for very long.

[HoosierCat]

● Waived four second-year players:

-- WR Bennie Brazell of Louisiana State

-- S John Busing of Miami (Ohio)

-- WR Reggie McNeal of Texas A&M

-- OT Alan Reuber of Texas A&M

● Waived three first-year players:

--TE Tim Day of Oregon

--G Nate Livings of Louisiana State

--FB Chris Manderino of California

● Waived eight rookies:

--HB Curtis Brown of Brigham Young

--LB Earl Everett of Florida

--WR Jesse Holley of North Carolina

--DE Xzavie Jackson of Missouri

--LB Matt Muncy of Ohio

--G Harrison Nikolao of Eastern Washington

--DT Matt Toeaina of Oregon

--OT Dane Uperesa of Hawaii

(Toeaina was a sixth-round Bengals choice in the 2007 draft, and the other seven waived rookies entered the NFL this year as college free agents.)

So...who makes the eight-man practice squad? I'm pretty sure everyone listed here is eligible. I'd guess:

Busing

McNeal

Day

Manderino

Everett

Jackson

Big Toe

Upresa

They may also sign a PK to the squad just for the next week so they have someone for practices, in which case I think Manderino falls off.

[Spor_tees]

● Waived four second-year players:

-- WR Bennie Brazell of Louisiana State

-- S John Busing of Miami (Ohio)

-- WR Reggie McNeal of Texas A&M

-- OT Alan Reuber of Texas A&M

● Waived three first-year players:

--TE Tim Day of Oregon

--G Nate Livings of Louisiana State

--FB Chris Manderino of California

● Waived eight rookies:

--HB Curtis Brown of Brigham Young

--LB Earl Everett of Florida

--WR Jesse Holley of North Carolina

--DE Xzavie Jackson of Missouri

--LB Matt Muncy of Ohio

--G Harrison Nikolao of Eastern Washington

--DT Matt Toeaina of Oregon

--OT Dane Uperesa of Hawaii

(Toeaina was a sixth-round Bengals choice in the 2007 draft, and the other seven waived rookies entered the NFL this year as college free agents.)

So...who makes the eight-man practice squad? I'm pretty sure everyone listed here is eligible. I'd guess:

Busing

McNeal

Day

Manderino

Everett

Jackson

Big Toe

Upresa

They may also sign a PK to the squad just for the next week so they have someone for practices, in which case I think Manderino falls off.

I think Busing gets picked up by another team. Maybe even Jackson. The only reason Everett doesn't get picked up is because of injuries.

[HoosierCat]

I think Busing gets picked up by another team. Maybe even Jackson. The only reason Everett doesn't get picked up is because of injuries.

I could see a team snatching up Busing, he's got real game experience and is a ST standout. Hard to see a team willing to spend an active roster slot on Jackson, tho. Agree on Everett.

[volcom69]

Did they ever give Hartwell a chance at all i mean he was always out there with the guys they were going to cut i really dont understand that he would have been one guy on the def that would speak up now theres really noone there. I would have liked to have seen him stay to help out but this to me is kind of dissapointing but whatever i guess.

[TJJackson]

So let me see if I have this right

Offense (25):

QBs (3)

Carson, Fitzgerald, and Rowe

WRs (6)

Chad, TJ, Tab, Chatman, Skyler, and Holt

TEs (3)

Reggie, Coats, and Lawrie

FB (1)

Jeremi

RB (3)

Rudi, Kenny W, and Quincy

OL (9)

Big Willie, Levi, Bobbie, Stacey, Ghiaciuc, Whitworth, Stepanovich, Kooistra, Santucci

Defense (25)

DL(8)

Justin, Thornton, Peko, JumpyJr, Robinson, Rucker, Fanene, and Meyers

LB(6)

Brooks, Jeanty, Landon, Caleb, Lemar Marshall, and Frazier

DB(11)

Deltha, JJoe, Hall, Keiwan, Adams, Madieu, Dexter, Herena-daze, Kilmer, White, and Chinny

Special Teams (3)

Shane, Larson, St. Louis

Random comment: very heavy on safeties, light on pure DTs (all hail versatility)

Pleasant Surprise for 2007: Coats, without a doubt. Now we'll see how he does when the games are for real.

Shock of 2007: How did Santucci make this team?

[skyline]

Hartwell is very disappointing.

Other than that I can't say that any of the moves really surprise me.

[HoosierCat]

There's no open slot, TJ, you just miscounted the offense. There's 25 guys there.

[jjakq27]

Hartwell didn't surprise me after Dave Lapham mentioned him as a "don't be surprised" candidate the other day. His lack of footspeed and no special teams hurt him.

I am glad to see Johnson gone. However I wish Rowe would have gotten more reps.

[BengalszoneBilly]

I am glad to see Johnson gone. However I wish Rowe would have gotten more reps.

That's a huge mistake IMHO, but I guess they were feeding Dougie all the rope he needed to hang himself with.

[jjakq27]

I am glad to see Johnson gone. However I wish Rowe would have gotten more reps.

That's a huge mistake IMHO, but I guess they were feeding Dougie all the rope he needed to hang himself with.

They obsviously saw something more in him than in Wright when they kept DJ. But he seemed a little slow footed in his drops, etc. even last year. Then I heard a stat that he is 1-12? in his last 13 games played in the NFL. That ain't too good!

Here are more cuts from around the league through 8/31:

http://www.nfl.com/transactions?transactio...ansactionYear=0

[volcom69]

Well if Brooks is going to be as good as everyone says or as good as he should be then the Hartwell cut will be ok but if he struggles then i will hate the fact that they let him go, i was hoping for the best with him since im not a big fan of the LB corps but i do like Johnson and the pickup of Marshel so i just hope this move dosnt hurt the team.

[HoosierCat]

Some further stuff from a Hobs update...Hartwell may be coming back...

Because of their injury situation in the secondary, the Bengals were forced to keep 11 defensive backs and just six linebackers and eight defensive linemen, although Lewis said that was his number all along on the front line.

Lewis hinted that Hartwell could return after the opener, when the injury picture could clear up and the Bengals wouldn't be on the hook for his entire salary.

Eight of the players cut Saturday figure to be back here Sunday if they clear waivers and sign to the practice squad. Busing is a leading candidate, as is fullback Chris Manderino, tight end Tim Day, wide receiver Bennie Brazell, guard Nate Livings and rookies Matt Toeaina, a defensive tackle, Matt Muncy, a linebacker, and tackle Dane Uperesa.

Notable I think that Reggie McNeal's name isn't among the prime candidates for the PS. IMHO he's done here.

[BengalszoneBilly]

Notable I think that Reggie McNeal's name isn't among the prime candidates for the PS. IMHO he's done here.

This news won't sit well with GapControl. He was pimping him hard!

[TJJackson]

There's no open slot, TJ, you just miscounted the offense. There's 25 guys there.

ah yes....correcting now

Most of us are hating the injuries this year. I think Keiwan is thanking his deity of choice for all the injuries