Wilkerson Added to Roster

[derekshank]

I seem to recall a numbr of you said Wilkerson would never make the roster.....well how-dee-doo to you on this fine day.

The 4 year contract speaks VOLUMES about what they think this guy can do.

Take it easy there buddy. It's easy to say "I told you so" when you pimp every single undrafted free agent we sign while you degrade every single draft pick. You're bound to be right every once in a while. That doesn't make you smarter than the majority. And before you begin to think of yourself as Nostradamus... I need not remind you of your opinions of Peko and Whitworth in comparison to Eric Henderson who you fell in love with the day we signed him.

By the way... just signing a guy from the practice squad doesn't indicate that he's going to be a star. Look at the number of guys we decided to sign off of the practice squad before we called his number. He very well may end up living up to his potential. We'll find out soon enough... but for the time being, I tend to believe his signing says a lot more about Braham's injury than it does about Wilkerson's value, or the performance of Ghiaciuc.

[Jet23]

I seem to recall a numbr of you said Wilkerson would never make the roster.....well how-dee-doo to you on this fine day.

The 4 year contract speaks VOLUMES about what they think this guy can do.

Take it easy there buddy. It's easy to say "I told you so" when you pimp every single undrafted free agent we sign while you degrade every single draft pick. You're bound to be right every once in a while. That doesn't make you smarter than the majority. And before you begin to think of yourself as Nostradamus... I need not remind you of your opinions of Peko and Whitworth in comparison to Eric Henderson who you fell in love with the day we signed him.

By the way... just signing a guy from the practice squad doesn't indicate that he's going to be a star. Look at the number of guys we decided to sign off of the practice squad before we called his number. He very well may end up living up to his potential. We'll find out soon enough... but for the time being, I tend to believe his signing says a lot more about Braham's injury than it does about Wilkerson's value, or the performance of Ghiaciuc.

Not to mention the fact that the length of a contract means nothing in the NFL as nothing is guaranteed. Has the size of the signing bonus been released? I am with you, I'm afraid this says more about Braham than anything, but like everyone else I will light a candle in hopes that Wilkerson can make a difference. He could at least add some beef to the middle.

I'm still all for putting Steiny at Tackle and moving Whitworth to Guard. I'm a bit tired of seeing Steinbach getting knocked into the backfield. I think he would be better off taking on the speed rushers. Heck, put the beef in the middle and establish the run.

[agreen_112]

Wilkerson ...... Big deal.

[TJJackson]

It's easy to say "I told you so" when you pimp every single undrafted free agent we sign while you degrade every single draft pick.

Completely untrue as stated. Try to avoid absolutes....

The single undrafted free agent I "pimped" was Henderson. They signed....what....a dozen and a half others?

On the other side, I never slammed the pick of Jonathan Joseph, and once I understood that Kilmer (listed as a WR at the time he was drafted) was picked as a S and special teamer, I was fine with that. I have since come clean on Peko more than once, albeit he hasn't shown much in the regular season (few Bengals defenders have, though). I was slightly negative on Whitworth and probably should do a writeup on him as well, as he has been a *major* suprise - I'll even argue the BEST CHOICE MADE to this point - on an otherwise strongly negative draft.

You're bound to be right every once in a while.

Generous of you.

That doesn't make you smarter than the majority.

Again, no such claim was made. I simply pointed to those who said he'd never make the team. Try to avoid logical leaps.

And before you begin to think of yourself as Nostradamus... I need not remind you of your opinions of Peko and Whitworth in comparison to Eric Henderson who you fell in love with the day we signed him.

I was "in love with" (in a manly who-dey kinda way....quite comfortable with this :-), hehe) Henderson well before we signed him. Check your facts.

By the way... just signing a guy from the practice squad doesn't indicate that he's going to be a star.

Again, please re-read what I wrote. No where do I claim he'll be a star. Or even a starter.

Look at the number of guys we decided to sign off of the practice squad before we called his number.

Who is signed off the practive squad has more to do with need than relative ability. If we had a mediocre corner and an outstanding DT on the squad, and three corners go down with injuries one week, who will be the most likely to get signed? The DT or the corner? Your logic here holds no water.

He very well may end up living up to his potential. We'll find out soon enough... but for the time being, I tend to believe his signing says a lot more about Braham's injury than it does about Wilkerson's value, or the performance of Ghiaciuc.

This is the one reasonable bit of your post, albeit you don't explain your conclusion. How about enlightening us all, oh self-appointed (surely no one else would think to appoint you to such a post) -voice-of-reason?

[HairOnFire]

Wow, TJ's really feeling it.

[derekshank]

Wow, TJ's really feeling it.

Yeah. It's all good though. And I'm not even one of the Wilkerson "haters" that he seems to be making fun of. I just thought I'd point out a few of the things that he was wrong about for a change, rather than let him get away with rubbing other's noses in this one. The result... a few of his more charming personality traits came out. I can dig it. I wouldn't expect any less from him really.

[TJJackson]

a few of his more charming personality traits came out. I can dig it. I wouldn't expect any less from him really.

Yeah, nothing brings out my charming personality traits quite like having to deal with falsehoods written about me. I rather suspect there are very few posters here who like to see lies written about them.

One of derek's charming personality traits appears to be an inability to deal with being wrong, and then having it pointed out to him.

*shrug*

[bengalboomer7]

Wow, picked that apart

[Stripes]

This board is starting to remind me of the Bengals themselves.

[Ox]

This board is starting to remind me of the Bengals themselves.

Ain't it great!

[ShulaSteakhouse]

Where's the love?

They better win this Sunday or it'll all go to hell here.

[BengalPimp]

Fanene will be a welcome rotation guy, I've had enough of the disappearing act with Justin "overrated" Smith and Geathers. Hell I'd rather see Rucker in there too rotating with them, if he wasn't out for the year.

Disappearing act? they are the only 2 who seem to realize that games are not like practice, QB's arent

wearing Red Jerseys, and you are actually allowed to touch them. Disappear? Smith's motor doesnt stop,

and considering the limited number of snaps he plays Geathers' 6 sacks should be respected !

With thinking like yours, welcoming the addition of players with almost no experience who cannot seem to stay healthy, because you dont like your top 2 Pass-Rushers(who rank in the NFL's top 13)

ITS NO WONDER WHY YOU IDOLIZE MIKE SHULA............yeah, you know talent

[schweinhart]

Disappear? Smith's motor doesnt stop,

and considering the limited number of snaps he plays Geathers' 6 sacks should be respected !

Exactly..Justin's motor never stops and he's excellent in run pursuit. But I believe the disappearing act is about what happens to Smith's pass rush when he faces top tier LTs like he did last week. Justin had no chance vs. Ogden and never has. Had Jumpy fared somewhat better when he was in, maybe it would've lessened the obvious of just how bad the pass rush of the Bengals can be. They have got to get infinitely better pass rush Sunday or they will get kicked around all day on defense. IMO Justin will make a re-appearing act this week and Jumpy will cause some havoc his own self. But they still got to get some rush up the middle from the DTs to blow the pocket up from the front. Get Rivers flushed and good things will happen for the Bengals.

[GapControl]

Just want to remind everyone that now Wilkerson is actually on the active roster that I did party in his girlfriend`s apartment last year before I left for Japan... His pics were everywhere in the place and I was happy that we drank all of her liquor and beer and played Xbox all night. We even used her bed for some extra activity. Mind you, she wasn`t there that night so BigMan Ben has no need to hunt any of us down...

[walshfan]

this may not be a popular post but I think Wilk is light in the ass..

He doesnt get the push thats needed for run blocking.. As a pass blocker he may have great technique but for all out power I think he needs to get much stronger in the legs ...

[derekshank]

a few of his more charming personality traits came out. I can dig it. I wouldn't expect any less from him really.

Yeah, nothing brings out my charming personality traits quite like having to deal with falsehoods written about me. I rather suspect there are very few posters here who like to see lies written about them.

One of derek's charming personality traits appears to be an inability to deal with being wrong, and then having it pointed out to him.

*shrug*

I really have no desire to get into it with you TJ. I have nothing against you personally. I just thought it was interesting that you would enjoy so much pointing out when others are wrong. It is rare that anyone does the same to you, even though as I pointed out you have been wrong on your share of things.

It doesn't feel good to be pointed out when you are wrong. That's all I was doing. If you want to get into a war of words and defame my character by saying I am unable to deal with being wrong... so be it. I will politely decline to engage in such a battle.

Perhaps I posted my feelings to cavalierly, and should have just let it go rather than point out some of your past errors. Fine. I often fail to let dead dogs lie. Call it one of my "more charming personality traits." I just don't like it when I see others laugh and make fun when people are wrong... because anyone who has been here long enough has been wrong about their share of stuff.

[membengal]

Tab Perry. Don't forget his Tab Perry take.

The direction this thread has taken thrills me.

[TJJackson]

*shrug*

I have come clean on my original displeasure with the Tab Perry selection many, many times....but it appears you need to hear it yet again, so here goes: He's clearly a *major* asset to this club on special teams, and is also a contributor on offense.

[membengal]

I think what I hear people expressing, tj, is that your analysis sometimes gets lost when you can WAY overboard with knee-jerk reactions to moves the Bengals have made. Time is needed to evaluate moves, and certainly draft picks.

Your steadfast faith in Wilkerson is a little closer to being rewarded, for instance. But that didn't happen overnite. Neither can draft classes be judged "worst. draft. class. ever" the day of or the day after the picks are made. That plays out over time.

My two cents.

[bengalboomer7]

Tab Perry. Don't forget his Tab Perry take.

The direction this thread has taken thrills me.

Me too, but I wouldn't have put my two cents in. As ling as it's in a gentlemanly manner, argue away. That's what i love about these forums

[HairOnFire]

This probably won't shock anyone, but I'm a fairly confident guy who considers himself just as smart as the next guy. But when it comes to being right about all things footballish, and Joisey/Hoosier can back me up on this one, I've never bragged about being right more than half of the time. To be fair I think I'm right far more than that, but as long as I can continue to meet that unremarkable standard I'm confident that I fit in here.

Fair enough?

Right now we're a frustrated bunch. Our Bengal faith has been shaken, and this season is shaking out as being so frustrating that things are starting to chafe everywhere. As a result we've grabbed our favorite pet theories and retreated into the nearest corner, where if you mess with any of us, even a little, you're likely to get a punch to the throat.

I think it's clear that we need to calm down, myself included. I'm well aware that earlier this week I broadsided Kid Steakhouse, and even though I believe he deserved it...as well as a swift kick to the nuts...I feel sorta guilty about it.

Shula, if you read this, I'm sorry I wanted to kick you in the nuts. Lately, when it comes to all things Bengal, I've been wearing my nerves outside my clothes, and your ridiculous Justin Smith rant brushed one of my exposed nerves. But I realize now that it's not my place to punch you in the empty parts of your skull. Instead, I need to appeal to the portions of your brainpan where your grey matter is vibrant, wet, and thriving.

I like you, and I respect your given opinions slightly more than half of the time. And that'll do.

Please forgive.

[HoosierCat]

I think it's clear that we need to calm down, myself included.

Oh, c'mon, what's a year without a complete Bengals fan wig-out? (I know, 2005.) It's getting to be like old times, aside from my decision to play the role of calm counsel versus my usual take as frothing lunatic. By all means, I encourage the insanity! Heck, we're still wading the shallows. Only a few scattered posts have touched on the next level down, in which we begin arguing about who's a "real fan." I've already seen the term "chicken little" tossed about some. Can "Fed-Up" and "Die Hard" be far behind?