TJJackson Posted January 11, 2021 Report Posted January 11, 2021 this is why Amphar is on my ignore list Quote
AMPHAR Posted January 12, 2021 Report Posted January 12, 2021 The top PFF OL FAs: 5 T - Trent Williams - $20mil per 9. G Brandon Schreff - $15m per 13. T T. Moton - $16.5m per 14. G Joe Thuney - $14.25 per 26. C - Corey Linsley - $11m per 32. T Russel Okung - $16.67m per 33. T A. Villanueva - $15m per 40. T Daryl Williams - $10.5m per 68. C David Andrews - $6m per 72. C Austin Reiter - $4.75m per 75. T Kelvin Beachum - $4.5m per 79 C Alex Mack - $6m per 92 T Matt Feiler - $6m per Quote
AMPHAR Posted January 12, 2021 Report Posted January 12, 2021 I would have taken D. Williams (#40) the past couple years. He's had to work on 1 year deals. Solid RT. Quote
HoosierCat Posted January 12, 2021 Report Posted January 12, 2021 1 hour ago, AMPHAR said: The top PFF OL FAs: 5 T - Trent Williams - $20mil per 9. G Brandon Schreff - $15m per 13. T T. Moton - $16.5m per 14. G Joe Thuney - $14.25 per 26. C - Corey Linsley - $11m per 32. T Russel Okung - $16.67m per 33. T A. Villanueva - $15m per 40. T Daryl Williams - $10.5m per 68. C David Andrews - $6m per 72. C Austin Reiter - $4.75m per 75. T Kelvin Beachum - $4.5m per 79 C Alex Mack - $6m per 92 T Matt Feiler - $6m per Top OL on Mike’s radar: 155 T Joe “Swingin’” Gates - league minimum 179 G Bill “Speedy” Bump - bag of peanuts 210 C Jim “Snappy” High - pays Mike $10 a day to play 1 Quote
membengal Posted January 12, 2021 Author Report Posted January 12, 2021 He spent on Reader and Wayans last year. They can do that again. $126 million in FA in 2020 says the old jokes may not hold. Quote
AMPHAR Posted January 12, 2021 Report Posted January 12, 2021 1 hour ago, HoosierCat said: Top OL on Mike’s radar: 155 T Joe “Swingin’” Gates - league minimum 179 G Bill “Speedy” Bump - bag of peanuts 210 C Jim “Snappy” High - pays Mike $10 a day to play Dancing Bear Hernandez - You'll pay to see it 1 Quote
Wraith Posted January 12, 2021 Report Posted January 12, 2021 Larry Warford is not on that list but he is also a FA, not on the list because he exempted himself last year. Also Okung is going to retire, per reports. Quote
AMPHAR Posted January 12, 2021 Report Posted January 12, 2021 Maurkice Pouncey C Steelers is supposedly retiring AND Anthony Castonzo T Indy is retiring. So those were potential cap casualties/re signs. Quote
TJJackson Posted January 13, 2021 Report Posted January 13, 2021 20 hours ago, HoosierCat said: 210 C Jim “Snappy” High - pays Mike $10 a day to play this was the Rapistburger's center in their playoff loss, right? 1 Quote
AMPHAR Posted January 19, 2021 Report Posted January 19, 2021 See what happens but you got big deals coming for Jackson and Lawson otherwise you have bigger holes to fill. Assuming they sign Lawson, Jackson. Bates is up after this year. With all that they need probably 10 starting upgrades. I would easily take a 2004 secondary plan they did under Lewis once Sapp spurned them. That landed them multiple starters on a division winner the next season. Quote
AMPHAR Posted January 19, 2021 Report Posted January 19, 2021 https://theathletic.com/2321179/2021/01/19/will-cincinnati-bengals-invest-in-offensive-line-inside-the-decision-of-the-offseason/ Summary: Speculation that Bobby Hart eventually gets cut. RT would be a FA target(possible big $$). Repeating the above Lap unlikely to be involved in big dollars for FA guard. Would like Spain back, maybe. Jordan potential and several 2nd FA guard targets. 2nd/3rd tier guard that would be awesome, IMO is Matt Feiler from Pitt. RTs prospects includes Daryl Williams and Taylor Moton. Quote
ShulaSteakhouse Posted January 19, 2021 Report Posted January 19, 2021 More and more mocks showing Sewell to the Bengals/being there at #5. https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2021-nfl-mock-draft-justin-fields-goes-to-jacksonville-at-no-1-miami-picks-devonta-smith-lands-at-no-3 My opinion still is that if Sewell checks-out in pre-draft/combine workouts and interviews, he's a no-brainer. Makes your whole o-line better, your QB better, your RB and WR's better, and allows for more flexibility on the line when it comes to moving guys around, and immediately upgrades the talent level with a starter they likely won't have the cap room for in the off-season. He also serve as much-needed Jonah insurance, as that guy can't seem to stay healthy yet (AND if he improves next season like Whitworth did in his 2nd full season - you got 2 great bookends and a capable QB who can win playoff games). Of course nothing wrong with trading-down and getting the #2 OT or IOL or a DE/DT/LB instead, but, if you're going to stay put and he's there, just do it. 1 Quote
TJJackson Posted January 20, 2021 Report Posted January 20, 2021 Steakhouse: taking Sewell is my second favorite way to go, with trading down being number 1 I am not 100% sold on Sewell and his year and a half of college experience -- but I am not sold on any of the top ten worthy prospects, so if we're gonna take a shot to me that shot should imo be at OL. thats even if we manage to sign two top tier OL in FA Chase would probably be third, then maybe Paye. Maybe. Not a Smith fan. Quote
membengal Posted January 20, 2021 Author Report Posted January 20, 2021 Here's my tradedown target... PFF Draft on Twitter: "Christian Darrisaw is a BULLY. Highest-graded run-blocker at OT https://t.co/0OEujcdppS" / Twitter Quote
Passepartout Posted January 20, 2021 Report Posted January 20, 2021 Really need to be in the building around young Joe Burrow there! As should not had gotten hurt. Quote
TJJackson Posted January 20, 2021 Report Posted January 20, 2021 I like Darrisaw a lot at about 10-15 Niners call for a trade from 12 to 5 for one of the three QBs and we're all set :-) Hey, I am allowed to dream........:-) 1 Quote
membengal Posted January 20, 2021 Author Report Posted January 20, 2021 My fave trade on PFF is 12, 44, and 113 from SF for the five. Can do a lot of positive business with those picks. Quote
TJJackson Posted January 20, 2021 Report Posted January 20, 2021 so we do actually think alike....errrrr.....sometimes :-) I've made basically that same trade on PFF but I generally score a 1 or a 2 in the 2022 draft as a part of thepackage 1 Quote
AMPHAR Posted January 20, 2021 Report Posted January 20, 2021 1 hour ago, membengal said: My fave trade on PFF is 12, 44, and 113 from SF for the five. Can do a lot of positive business with those picks. That would work for sure. Very tempting if that would materialize. It gives them 7 top 150 picks. If they are having a good draft that fills some holes for sure. 12, 37,44, 69,106, 113, 145 Edit: They should have Tim Krumrie call pick 69. 1 Quote
AMPHAR Posted January 20, 2021 Report Posted January 20, 2021 14 hours ago, ShulaSteakhouse said: More and more mocks showing Sewell to the Bengals/being there at #5. https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2021-nfl-mock-draft-justin-fields-goes-to-jacksonville-at-no-1-miami-picks-devonta-smith-lands-at-no-3 My opinion still is that if Sewell checks-out in pre-draft/combine workouts and interviews, he's a no-brainer. Makes your whole o-line better, your QB better, your RB and WR's better, and allows for more flexibility on the line when it comes to moving guys around, and immediately upgrades the talent level with a starter they likely won't have the cap room for in the off-season. He also serve as much-needed Jonah insurance, as that guy can't seem to stay healthy yet (AND if he improves next season like Whitworth did in his 2nd full season - you got 2 great bookends and a capable QB who can win playoff games). Of course nothing wrong with trading-down and getting the #2 OT or IOL or a DE/DT/LB instead, but, if you're going to stay put and he's there, just do it. A great situation to happen would be to sign one of the top FA tackles. IMO, Moton or Daryl Williams would be a significant upgrade to that position group and would potential to lift that position up to the level of Andre Smith in his prime. That protects you at 5. Then if Sewell is there you can grab him (if all the hype checks out). Grabbing Sewell then gives the possibility of Williams at G. Or if you wanted to groom Sewell for a season at LG. But if Sewell isn't there or isn't your cup of tea you can entertain a top WR or trade down. At the end of the day if adding talent to the line is a priority for them then there will be plenty opportunity to add at least 2 new starting bodies IF they want to between the draft and/or FA. If we are sitting here at the end of April and looking at the same group as before. Then that tells you management is happy with their guys (we aren't). IMO, when it falls apart again that is something you can't lump on Zac or Pollack. I think we'll see some new faces on the line and hopefully they are type of faces that look like slam dunk upgrades on paper. Quote
membengal Posted January 20, 2021 Author Report Posted January 20, 2021 1 hour ago, TJJackson said: so we do actually think alike....errrrr.....sometimes :-) I've made basically that same trade on PFF but I generally score a 1 or a 2 in the 2022 draft as a part of thepackage I don't bother with future picks on the trade machine just because...it's useless for the purposes of doing a mock this year. But, yes, in real life, would try to get a future pick too. One of the reason I do so many mocks is to get a sense for if and when trading down makes sense. This feels like a good trade down year unless they have exactly who they want at 5. No reaching. Here is a note from Matt Miller this AM: Quote
membengal Posted January 20, 2021 Author Report Posted January 20, 2021 Here's PFF's top 5 o-linemen: Quote OFFENSIVE TACKLE 1. Penei Sewell, Oregon 2. Rashawn Slater, Northwestern 3. Christian Darrisaw, Virginia Tech 4. Teven Jenkins, Oklahoma State 5. Samuel Cosmi, Texas Christian Darrisaw is a name you’re going to hear a lot more of in the coming months, and he could even come off the board as high as the top 10 when all is said and done. He earned the second-highest grade we’ve ever given to a Power Five tackle, posting a 95.6 overall mark. And he wasn’t exactly going up against slouches. He faced draftable edge defenders such as Carlos Basham (Wake Forest), Quincy Roche (Miami), and Victor Dimukeje (Duke) and shut them all down. Quote
HoosierCat Posted January 20, 2021 Report Posted January 20, 2021 3 hours ago, membengal said: Yup. For once our biggest need, OL, actually matches the talent pool. Quote
AMPHAR Posted January 22, 2021 Report Posted January 22, 2021 Daniel Jeremiah’s recent mock has Bengals taking Slater at 5 with Sewell still on the board and slipping to 10. He loves himself some Slater. Quote
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