Ox Posted January 21, 2006 Report Share Posted January 21, 2006 Dunno if you all have seen this yet, but Mel Kiper gave us his first round mock the other day. He has us picking up a monster DT Claude Wroten from LSU. Check it out-Mel Kiper Jr. mock draft1. Houston -- *Reggie Bush, RB, USC2. New Orleans -- Matt Leinart, QB, USC3. Tennessee -- *Vince Young, QB, Texas4. New York Jets -- D'Brickashaw Ferguson, OT, Virginia5. Green Bay -- *Mario Williams, DE, NC State6. Oakland -- A.J. Hawk, LB, Ohio State7. San Francisco -- DeMeco Ryans, LB, Alabama8. Buffalo -- *Haloti Ngata, DT, Oregon9. Detroit -- Jay Cutler, QB, Vanderbilt10. Arizona -- DeAngelo Williams, RB, Memphis11. St. Louis -- *Vernon Davis, TE, Maryland12. Cleveland -- Chad Greenway, LB, Iowa13. Baltimore -- Tamba Hali, DE, Penn State14. Philadelphia -- *Santonio Holmes, WR, Ohio State15. Atlanta -- Michael Huff, DB, Texas16. Miami -- *Winston Justice, OT, USC17. Minnesota -- *LenDale White, RB, USC18. Dallas -- Jimmy Williams, DB, Virginia Tech19. San Diego -- *Ko Simpson, DB, South Carolina20. Kansas City -- *Ashton Youboty, CB, Ohio State21. New England -- Bobby Carpenter, LB, Ohio State22. Denver (from Wash.) -- Mathias Kiwanuka, DE, Boston College23. Tampa Bay -- Derek Hagan, WR, Arizona State24. Cincinnati -- Claude Wroten, DT, LSU25. New York Giants -- *Ernie Sims, LB, Florida State26. Chicago -- *Leonard Pope, TE, Georgia27. Carolina -- *Anthony Fasano, TE, Notre Dame28. Pittsburgh -- *Antonio Cromartie, CB, Florida State29. Jacksonville -- Thomas Howard, LB, UTEP30. Indianapolis -- *Laurence Maroney, RB, Minnesota31. Denver -- *Darnell Bing, DB, USC32. Seattle -- *Chad Jackson, WR, Florida Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShulaSteakhouse Posted January 21, 2006 Report Share Posted January 21, 2006 Wroten is a promising player, but just another quick, gap shooting Thorton type. Great attitude and a solid pick late in the 1st or early 2nd, but have to wonder if he'll be BPA or not at 24. I think he'll drop below 24 at this point pending combine results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted January 21, 2006 Report Share Posted January 21, 2006 Nice to see that Kiper expects the Buckeyes to produce five first round picks, tied for the most in college football with the Trojans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalindian Posted January 21, 2006 Report Share Posted January 21, 2006 Nice to see that Kiper expects the Buckeyes to produce five first round picks, tied for the most in college football with the Trojans.I heard that, too, but there are only 4 on Mel's list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ29 Posted January 21, 2006 Report Share Posted January 21, 2006 I will cry if Cromartie goes to Pittsburgh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted January 21, 2006 Report Share Posted January 21, 2006 Ox, gotta say, I hate seeing the pictures of Carson laying there, but understand the message. That being said, I never get to worked up until after free agency begins in regards to mocks...WHODEY !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted January 21, 2006 Report Share Posted January 21, 2006 Nice to see that Kiper expects the Buckeyes to produce five first round picks, tied for the most in college football with the Trojans.I heard that, too, but there are only 4 on Mel's list. No wonder I'm failing pre-calculus! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted January 21, 2006 Report Share Posted January 21, 2006 Mel Kiper Jr. mock draft1. Houston -- *Reggie Bush, RB, USC2. New Orleans -- Matt Leinart, QB, USC3. Tennessee -- *Vince Young, QB, Texas4. New York Jets -- D'Brickashaw Ferguson, OT, Virginia5. Green Bay -- *Mario Williams, DE, NC State6. Oakland -- A.J. Hawk, LB, Ohio State7. San Francisco -- DeMeco Ryans, LB, Alabama8. Buffalo -- *Haloti Ngata, DT, Oregon9. Detroit -- Jay Cutler, QB, Vanderbilt10. Arizona -- DeAngelo Williams, RB, Memphis11. St. Louis -- *Vernon Davis, TE, Maryland12. Cleveland -- Chad Greenway, LB, Iowa13. Baltimore -- Tamba Hali, DE, Penn State14. Philadelphia -- *Santonio Holmes, WR, Ohio State15. Atlanta -- Michael Huff, DB, Texas16. Miami -- *Winston Justice, OT, USC17. Minnesota -- *LenDale White, RB, USC18. Dallas -- Jimmy Williams, DB, Virginia Tech19. San Diego -- *Ko Simpson, DB, South Carolina20. Kansas City -- *Ashton Youboty, CB, Ohio State21. New England -- Bobby Carpenter, LB, Ohio State22. Denver (from Wash.) -- Mathias Kiwanuka, DE, Boston College23. Tampa Bay -- Derek Hagan, WR, Arizona State24. Cincinnati -- Claude Wroten, DT, LSU25. New York Giants -- *Ernie Sims, LB, Florida State26. Chicago -- *Leonard Pope, TE, Georgia27. Carolina -- *Anthony Fasano, TE, Notre Dame28. Pittsburgh -- *Antonio Cromartie, CB, Florida State29. Jacksonville -- Thomas Howard, LB, UTEP30. Indianapolis -- *Laurence Maroney, RB, Minnesota31. Denver -- *Darnell Bing, DB, USC32. Seattle -- *Chad Jackson, WR, Florida I've never been a big fan of moving up in the draft, but if the draft was really falling this way I'd be tempted to attempt moving up a few slots for Kiwanuka. Wouldn't cost much for a move like that and if you were satisfied that Kiwi fits the system, and is physically sound, a DE with his pass rush skills would provide more bang for the buck than Wroten. Plus, he be a perfect bookend for Smith OR a possible replacement if the plan includes letting Smith leave after this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schroomytunes Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 Hell yeah! if the draft did fall like this then yes I would trade up to get Kiwanika, it would only cost us a 4th rounder, but yes I also don't worry about mocks until after free agency has settled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 I am noting certain tendency not unlike QBs from Cal: DTs from LSU. They draft high, and production never comes close to collegiate.I think for this reason and some others, I'd pass on Wroten in Round 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ29 Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 I am noting certain tendency not unlike QBs from Cal: DTs from LSU. They draft high, and production never comes close to collegiate.I think for this reason and some others, I'd pass on Wroten in Round 1.To be honest, I've never really noticed that. Do you have any other examples? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasher Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 This years draft, overall is not a deep draft. While there are a couple of positions (TE, OL) that go pretty deep, it is pretty poor overall.I suspect that Marv will try to take fewer players out of this draft and target pretty specific ranges to pick in to get the players he wants.1st round either safety or DT, pick in the 10-20 range (Huff, Bing, Ngata, Wright) (BUT, I think that the DTs besides Nagata are going to slip pretty far).2nd, probably stay put and get the slipping DTs or possibly a CB3rd (given away with 1st round to move up in 1st)4th DT, TE, or CB (could move up here with 4th/5th or 4th/6th combination) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Next_Big_Thing Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 Nice to see that Kiper expects the Buckeyes to produce five first round picks, tied for the most in college football with the Trojans.OSU Usually does have most first round picks each year....PS: I think we should draft Chad Jackson to go along with Chad Johnson and really mess with people's heads by giving Chris Henry a new Number and giving Chad Jackson the #15! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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