Raistlin Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 Just wondering what is going to happen with Chris Perry now? Any news on him lately, or what the Bengals plan on doing with him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyline Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 No news at all. I'm willing to bet that he'll be gone after this season, though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 He is Rudi's back-up and a third down threat.I don't see him going anywhere. His contract will only get more cap friendly as it goes along. Phenomenal insurance to have at RB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkendall Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 Yea, we have Perry for 4 more seasons. Keep him. Keep that competitiveness in training camp forcing players to do their best or lose your job... I like that. Keeps things fresh and always efficent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 Plus, as pointed out, he costs nothing. And his failure to do anything last year was related to injury and the Bengals' med staff's screw-ups. Barring further injury, there's no reason to believe he won't be phenomenally successful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schweinhart Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 Plus he can learn from Kenny Watson for another year if Watson stays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyline Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 Well, sure, but if he shows promise this year, and knows he can get a deal elsewhere?I would see him sitting out and demanding to be released or traded. I just have a hard time seeing a 1st round person being satisfied as a backup for 4 years. Now, as for the Bengals...then yeah...you'd want him to play backup for 4 years without a hitch. That'd be ideal. I just don't see it happening.Of course, if he doesn't show much, keeps having injury problems, etc., then I guess he'll be grateful for the deal he currently has... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 Nothing changed. Perry is still the backup* running back he was drafted to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 Again, assuming he stays healthy and contributes...I could see other teams being interested in trading for him. But again, under those circumstances, I don't see the Bengals in any rush to deal him, either. As to sitting out...? IMHO that's be pretty dumb. All he has to do is look at what happened to Lamont Jordan. Do your job, smile for the camera, don't rock the boat and he should be poised for a nice payday in Cincy or someplace else in four more years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuck Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 RB Sammy Morris, a former Bill, signed with Miami last year as a FA. got 500+ yards with an obviously troubled franchise. Morris had a sports hernia while he was with the Bills, but recovered nicely. Great ST player, too - he was missed when he was out of the lineupMorris' stats:http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/187612I'm looking forward to a healthy Perry. By all accounts, great hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 Perry was drafted with the 26th pick...not the 6th ! He was 6 picks away from being a 2nd roud pick...and if we hadn`t drafted him when we did...he WOULD have been ! I don`t understand why people KEEP saying that he was draftedin the 1st round so he HAS to start ? He is making LESS per year than the DT we just signed ! You have 53 guys on your roster...where they were draftedshoudn`t matter ...how they PRODUCE should ...Perry will be a good change of pace back. Rudi and Perry canco-exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 Perry was drafted with the 26th pick...not the 6th ! He was 6 picks away from being a 2nd roud pick...and if we hadn`t drafted him when we did...he WOULD have been ! I don`t understand why people KEEP saying that he was draftedin the 1st round so he HAS to start ? He is making LESS per year than the DT we just signed ! You have 53 guys on your roster...where they were draftedshoudn`t matter ...how they PRODUCE should ...Perry will be a good change of pace back. Rudi and Perry canco-exist. Exactly.Not only CAN they co-exist, but this team will be the stronger for it. What happens if Rudi gets dinged up and can't go a game or two? It sure will be nice to have someone like Perry to plug in. And, for change of pace purposes, Perry sounds ideal. I really hope we get to see it this year.Look at the Jets last year, C-Martin had a huge season, but LaMont Jordan got a ton of touches as his back-up. That's how it can be here. It's not an exclusive thing.Nice post oldschooler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 Plus, as pointed out, he costs nothing. And his failure to do anything last year was related to injury and the Bengals' med staff's screw-ups. Barring further injury, there's no reason to believe he won't be phenomenally successful. Believe it or not, I'm totally for keeping him. These injuries simply cannot keep occuring forever! At least I hope not. I'm banking on him making me eat a truckload of crow sooner or later! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkendall Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 Not only CAN they co-exist, but this team will be the stronger for it. What happens if Rudi gets dinged up and can't go a game or two? It sure will be nice to have someone like Perry to plug in. And, for change of pace purposes, Perry sounds ideal. I really hope we get to see it this year. Or like the Panthers a few years back? DeShawn Foster and Stephan Davis? That was pretty lethal, when both were semi-healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShulaSteakhouse Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 He was 6 picks away from being a 2nd roud pick...and if we hadn`t drafted him when we did...he WOULD have been !I don`t understand why people KEEP saying that he was draftedin the 1st round so he HAS to start ? He is making LESS per year than the DT we just signed !Exactly - and where is all this "phenomenal" backup nonsense coming from? Perry hasn't proven a damn thing and was a very low first round pick that many teams passed on.No one knows what he'll do and what he DID do last season was very unimpressive when he got carries in the preseason.I hope he works out here but as many should know you need more than one capable RB on your roster at all times - same with the QB position. And I'm not talking about Kenny Watson - but a big back who can carry the ball 25-30 times a game if asked like they did in college.You need two backs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 I don`t understand why people KEEP saying that he was drafted in the 1st round so he HAS to start ? I don't know anyone who's said anything of the sort. All that's been said is that he was likely taken with an eye toward working him in in 2004 and making him the starter in 2005, a strategy perfectly in keeping with everything Marvin has said over the past two years about not rushing rooks into the lineup, and shifting spending off the offense and onto the defensive side of the ball. Obviously, his inability to get on the field blew that plan apart.Of course the two can coexist; in fact, should Perry pan out we'll have great depth at the position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 Need to see a lot more of Kenny Watson this year.Look at his per carry average.....outstandinghttp://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/235389I'm not saying 20 offensive touches a game, but 7-10 including passes and runs would be good, if he can maintain that per carry average. in 2004, he averaged fewer than 2 carries per game. Needs to be more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 I don`t understand why people KEEP saying that he was drafted in the 1st round so he HAS to start ? I don't know anyone who's said anything of the sort. All that's been said is that he was likely taken with an eye toward working him in in 2004 and making him the starter in 2005, a strategy perfectly in keeping with everything Marvin has said over the past two years about not rushing rooks into the lineup, and shifting spending off the offense and onto the defensive side of the ball. Obviously, his inability to get on the field blew that plan apart.Of course the two can coexist; in fact, should Perry pan out we'll have great depth at the position.Well where have you been ? People have said that since Perry has been drafted...And I always thought that Perry was drafted for a few reasons.In case Rudi was a flash in the pan ...or if he got injured. I never got theimpression that he was drafted soley to replace Rudi and the signing of Rudi long term just confirms that...to me anyway. Need to see a lot more of Kenny Watson this year.Look at his per carry average.....outstandinghttp://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/235389I'm not saying 20 offensive touches a game, but 7-10 including passes and runs would be good, if he can maintain that per carry average. in 2004, he averaged fewer than 2 carries per game. Needs to be more.Watson only had 26 rushes all season...and the Bengals had no1 else tohand the ball to BUT him...he had 25 catches... that tells me something. He did convert some big 3rd downs though...The Bengals have ran the ball between 400-480+ times a season since 2000.I look for Rudi to get the bulk of those carries. With Perry getting at least 75 rushes and 25 catches. I`m not sure there`ll be enough ball left over for Watson. (If Perry and Rudi stay healthy) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 Lewis has also indicated that he wants two quality, every-down backs and it doesn’t look like Perry is going to get traded in light of the Johnson deal. “There’s a huge place for Chris. Chris Perry’s role hasn’t changed,” Lewis said. “Chris has a chance to be a starting tailback on this team just like Rudi has. Rudi understands that and Chris understands that, and they’re both excited about it. Rudi didn’t back away from that challenge and neither will Chris Perry.”http://www.bengals.com/press/news.asp?iCur...=0&news_id=2806Cool. So if Perry beats out Rudi I'll still have a chance to win that bottle of scotch from Hair! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 Lewis has also indicated that he wants two quality, every-down backs and it doesn’t look like Perry is going to get traded in light of the Johnson deal. “There’s a huge place for Chris. Chris Perry’s role hasn’t changed,” Lewis said. “Chris has a chance to be a starting tailback on this team just like Rudi has. Rudi understands that and Chris understands that, and they’re both excited about it. Rudi didn’t back away from that challenge and neither will Chris Perry.”http://www.bengals.com/press/news.asp?iCur...=0&news_id=2806Cool. So if Perry beats out Rudi I'll still have a chance to win that bottle of scotch from Hair! As far as that goes Bramlet has a chance to start over Palmer too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 As far as that goes Bramlet has a chance to start over Palmer too... Palmer sucks. Bramlet is 1000x BETTER. Palmer is the most overpaid player on the team. Worst Bungles move ever, set the team back 10 years...JoiseyCat (a.k.a. DontPushMeManISwearToGawdIllPullTheTriggerManDontPushMeIllDoIt!!!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schweinhart Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 Need to see a lot more of Kenny Watson this year.Look at his per carry average.....outstandinghttp://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/235389I'm not saying 20 offensive touches a game, but 7-10 including passes and runs would be good, if he can maintain that per carry average. in 2004, he averaged fewer than 2 carries per game. Needs to be more. Ah, the voice of reason.Amidst all the constant clucking about Chris Perry is the plain simple fact that Watson is an excellent RB, who backs up Rudi and is backed up by Chris Perry.The only time Watson got a shot to start was in 2002 when Stephen Davis went down for the Skins. In 4 starts Watson average 18-83 ypg for a 4.5 yd avg. Additionally, Watson averaged another 20 yds receiving.In other words, Watson avg. 100 yds per game on offense when given the chance to start and with him as the starter the Skins were 3-1 in a 7-9 season.Watson got screwed out of the starting job w/ the Skins when Davis left at end of the 2002 season because of the incompetence of Spurrier, who signed Trung Candidate and told Kenny the Skins would cut him if he wanted since Spurrier had made his made up that Candidate would be the starter.So Kenny bolted only to have the misfortune of being claimed on waivers by a team w/ Corey Dillon, Rudi Johnson, and Brandon Bennett on the roster.If Kenny ever does get the chance to start for a team (and their are several teams that he would proly start for right now) I'd say he'd kick total a$$. Here's a guy who was an undrafted rookie free agent out of college where he played WR not RB. This is the kind of dude who will do everything in his power to prove he belongs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 Cool. So if Perry beats out Rudi I'll still have a chance to win that bottle of scotch from Hair! Nothing would make me happier than passing out spirits because Crystal Perry managed to gain over 1,500 yards this season. That said, the odds that Perry might be named the starter seem even more remote today than when we agreed to bet. In fact, I'd say those odds are flat. Isn't it ironic....don't ya' think...that the very thing that will prevent me from winning our bet is the fact that Perry won't mount a challenge for the starters job...proving my opinion about him being nothing more than a backup*...the very reason for the bet itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 Exactly Schweinart, although I'll be the the first to admit I didn't know all those details about KW, just that he is capable of much more than we let him do here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucktkd Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 NewsBengals coach Marvin Lewis refuted rumors that running back Chris Perry's recover from a sports hernia was not going according to plan. "Chris Perry is fine," Lewis told the Cincinnati Enquirer. "The doctors said they did everything they had to do. We don't know where he'll be in regards to doctor's clearance [for the April 4 start of Cincy's offseason strength and conditioning program]. But when it's time to be on the field in June, supposedly he'll be ready.From fanball.com That's less than 3 weeks away.....The new season is just around the corner!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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