HoosierCat Posted December 2 Report Share Posted December 2 With the loss to Pitt, the Bengals inched up to the 10th pick in the 2025 draft. At 5-7 the boys are hard on their heels at pick 13. But that's not why we can't afford a victory here, or frankly for the rest of the year, imho. At all costs, the front office must not be given a Dead Cat Bounce of any size to wave around in January as an excuse not to make major changes like firing Taylor and a bunch of the staff. Fortunately, a bounce appears unlikely because the D is just that freaking bad. Just lose, baby! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted December 2 Report Share Posted December 2 Yep.....just lose, baby 4-13 should get us a high as maybe pick 5 I'd think even the worst team is only 2 wins away from tying it up with us NE can leapfrog us simply by tying since they have the 1 on 1 tiebreaker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted December 2 Author Report Share Posted December 2 I keep refreshing bengals.com looking for the announcement that Lou has been canned, and I keep not seeing it. What's the delay? Everyone knows it's coming. Even if you believe (and I do) that he's been screwed over by the FO and doesn't have the horses, what he does have out there is going backward in development, can't tackle and is constantly out of position. Honestly, I think that firing Lou now is about the only possible thing that might wake this pathetic squad up. Send the message that the top guy is out and everyone else is under the microscope. You want to keep playing here, you got five games to show us why. But I guess I shouldn't complain. The more they do nothing, the better the chance of a higher draft pick, at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted December 2 Report Share Posted December 2 Seriously guys... will it matter? Do you seriously have faith even with a top 5 pick they end up with a starter? If they do, what are the odds of them paying that starter a second contract if they are an above average player with a top of the market deal coming? If they fire a coach or multiple coaches, who's going to replace them? I don't understand the failure, I mean they spent all that money on a new locker room with LED lighting and brought back ping pong tables during the bye week. What else could it possibly take to turn this team into a consistent post season contender? I mean beyond good coaches and a beefed up scouting department. Those answers will not be considered. No worries, this is Big Lou's week to turn it around. I hope the shitbag Cowboys beat the fucking brakes off them this week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted December 2 Report Share Posted December 2 I did something I don't typically do and I watched the post game press conference from Tomlin. Do yourself and favor and spend the 6 minutes listening to that and then compare that to what you get from Zac. Wonder why the Steelers have had like 18 straight seasons without a losing record? Yeah. They are winners. That whole organization are winners. There it is from a Bengals fan perspective. Conversely, the Bengals are a joke and that might be giving them more credit than they deserve. Dude, I'm heated today. EDIT: Here let me help: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLvVdEYG4Tg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted December 2 Author Report Share Posted December 2 39 minutes ago, ArmyBengal said: Seriously guys... will it matter? No, of course not. But I have time to kill between now and death, so... Quote Do you seriously have faith even with a top 5 pick they end up with a starter? Oh, he'll start. Dunno if he'll be any good, but he'll definitely start. Quote If they do, what are the odds of them paying that starter a second contract if they are an above average player with a top of the market deal coming? Well, if they stumble into a stud defender, he's here for 4 on his rookie deal, the 5th year option and the tag in year 6 minimum. By then Joe will be 33. If they haven't won a Lombardi by then it's probably time to blow everything up again anyhow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted December 2 Author Report Share Posted December 2 Anyone want some easy money? Bengals are 6.5-point favorites next Monday night. Take the Cowboys and the points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted December 2 Author Report Share Posted December 2 41 minutes ago, HoosierCat said: Well, if they stumble into a stud defender, he's here for 4 on his rookie deal, the 5th year option and the tag in year 6 minimum. By then Joe will be 33. If they haven't won a Lombardi by then it's probably time to blow everything up again anyhow. I know, I know, quoting myself. But I wanted to follow this line of thought to its logical conclusion (and thanks to Army for the prompt!). That conclusion is that this will be a make or break offseason for the Taylor/Burrow era in Cincinnati. Burrow is 27 (28 in 8 days!). Taylor reportedly has 2 years left on his deal. If they let Zac stay and play out his contract and some miracle turnaround doesn't take place (and that seems unlikely at the moment), then they would be looking for a new head coach in January 2027, just weeks after Burrow turned 30. I am wondering how any new head coach is going to look at a 30 year old QB with (in 2027) a $52 million cap hit versus $28 million in dead money, compared to the chance to start fresh. Especially if you could trade said QB. This is all speculative because we don't know where Joe is at after two more years of getting beaten up behind our excuse for an oline. But it seems to me there's a good chance that 2025 is the last opportunity to change course while Joe is in his prime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted December 2 Report Share Posted December 2 I seriously cannot even bring myself to caring about what they do. When they fire Lou, I will pay attention enough to listen to what's said and then maybe see what the outcome on the field is after that decision. Outside of that, I don't really care what they do the rest of the season or the draft. That's not even considering what they are going to do with the plethora or starting or contributing UFA's they have next year. Then there's Chase's contract. Can't wait to see how stupid this all becomes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted December 2 Author Report Share Posted December 2 Oh, the UFAs are easy. on defense: bye. No one on this d is worth one penny. Only good player is Trey and since he’s 31 and in the last year of his deal, I’m trading him while I can get some value. on offense: sign Tee. Don’t care about anyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted December 2 Author Report Share Posted December 2 From da site: Quote The Bengals today signed LB Shaka Heyward off the practice squad to the active roster and waived WR Trenton Irwin. Heyward, a first-year player, originally was a college free agent signee of the Bengals in 2023. He spent all of last season and the first 13 weeks of this season on the team's practice squad. He was elevated from the practice squad to the active roster for Cincinnati's Week 11 game at the L.A. Chargers. Irwin, a fifth-year player, played in seven games with two starts for the Bengals this season. Looks like Irwin is on his way out. No real surprise. May as well get a look at Heyward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted December 2 Report Share Posted December 2 Thought Burrow was pretty fond of Irwin. Whatever... Wish him luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COB Posted December 3 Report Share Posted December 3 6 hours ago, HoosierCat said: on offense: sign Tee. Don’t care about anyone else. Is this correct or did you mean to say sign Chase? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted December 3 Author Report Share Posted December 3 16 minutes ago, COB said: Is this correct or did you mean to say sign Chase? No I meant Tee. Pay him and Chase. They won’t of course, but with Burton apparently a turd then they will have to spend money or (more likely, and) a premium pick on the position. So given the choice of picking between poisons (sign Tee or go down the Housh/Bates road again), I vote for retaining a known talent. YMMV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted December 3 Report Share Posted December 3 What better way to hold my interest in this waste of time team than a game against the Dallas Cowboys? Wake me up in September. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted December 3 Author Report Share Posted December 3 5 hours ago, Stripes said: What better way to hold my interest in this waste of time team than a game against the Dallas Cowboys? Wake me up in September. Given their tradition of slow starts, I’ll wake you up when September ends. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted December 3 Author Report Share Posted December 3 One bit of good news from last night: the Cowboys win combined with the Browns loss adjusted the SoS for both us and Nawlins so that the Bengals squeak ahead (.493 to .495) into the 9th pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted December 3 Report Share Posted December 3 Well, I honestly don't think the Cowboys have the ability to put up points to make this game a shootout, but I hope that doesn't stop the Bengals. This is yet another one of those situations where there is absolutely no good reason to win any more games. There is nothing to gain and whatever "feel good" and "finishing strong" aspect there is will be long forgotten by the time the next season begins. But hey, why get a top 10 pick when you can feel good about not making the post season? Pick 18 here we come !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted December 3 Report Share Posted December 3 11 hours ago, HoosierCat said: No I meant Tee. Pay him and Chase. They won’t of course, but with Burton apparently a turd then they will have to spend money or (more likely, and) a premium pick on the position. So given the choice of picking between poisons (sign Tee or go down the Housh/Bates road again), I vote for retaining a known talent. YMMV. See ?? That makes total sense to me and I don't disagree. However, I can just see the wheels in the front office turning and saying, why pay him that contract when we could just get a draft pick in 2026? We will just draft a young player we can keep around and control for the next 4 years minimum. I really thought and argued their philosophy had changed. It hasn't. Heads up Bengals, if you build through the draft and then let your best players walk, you aren't building shit. I'm sick of buying into the thought of not being able to pay players. It's not for a lack of understanding of how the cap works either. They don't bother to do anything different when it comes to contracts. It's like a one size fits all and that's just what they do win or lose or lose or lose or lose or lose, etc.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COB Posted December 3 Report Share Posted December 3 Brown family loves signing FA guys on “prove it” deals. But if the guy plays well and proves it, goodbye. And that philosophy applies to most of their draft picks. Be mediocre, get a second deal. Ball out, goodbye. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COB Posted December 3 Report Share Posted December 3 Cody Ford starting at guard, Volson moving to a depth role which is where he should have been all along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted December 3 Report Share Posted December 3 Cody Ford sucks just as much as Volson. Cappa has regressed beyond recognition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted December 3 Report Share Posted December 3 They’re probably going to win out and miss the playoffs. Just be prepared for that. Don’t hope for a top pick. Don’t hope for a firing. Don’t hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted December 4 Report Share Posted December 4 https://www.cincyjungle.com/2024/12/3/24310503/lou-anarumo-era-should-be-over-bengals-defensive-coordinator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COB Posted December 4 Report Share Posted December 4 I really don’t care if we lose this game. Two old ass owners who’ve stubbornly stuck to their outdated ways as the game passed them by. They’ll probably both find a way to lose. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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