2025 Draft Talking Points

[COB]

  On 4/1/2025 at 12:59 PM, AMPHAR said:

Perine is a big upgrade in short yardage.   They'll still need better blocking.  

There's a couple DEs I'd be more than comfortable taking at 17.   However, DT/DE have positional depth AND its odd typing this, both those positions don't have a clear path to being active on game day much less snaps.

Now if the guy is a standout and jolts to the top of the depth chart that's great.   But with injuries last year they were keeping at least 1 DL inactive on gameday.   A more healthy roster plus the vets  they probably can find a similar graded player at 17 that has a bigger path to snaps.

Safety, maybe.   Obviously G which would be best to grab a OT and play them at G for a year or 2.

 

 

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I’m really surprised guard is suddenly in play in the top 3.  Defense seemed to have earned the premium picks this year with their shit show performance last fall.  

[HoosierCat]

It’s one pick out of three. Since 2021 they’ve used 9 top 3 picks on defense, that would make it 11. So they’ve literally drafted a whole new defense, not even counting FAs. If we want the d to be better, the key will be if Golden can get more out of all that alleged talent. If one of this year’s picks turns out to be a gem, that’s icing on the cake.

[AMPHAR]

  On 4/1/2025 at 11:52 PM, COB said:

I’m really surprised guard is suddenly in play in the top 3.  Defense seemed to have earned the premium picks this year with their shit show performance last fall.  

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Just a guess.   My guess is one or more of the tackles is on their target list at 17.   Brown has 2 years, entering his 30s, and has had injury issues popping up.  They've had OT injuries just about every year.

A OT draft pick could do the following: Improve guard (play OT draftee there immediately), add to OT depth,  plan for future.

Maybe that's why they've halted guard FA search.  Signing a starter at guard takes a spot this OT prospect could use.   Then you are looking at drafting a guy that doesn't get on the field at 17.

I'd say Safety is another spot in which a first rounder has an opportunity to get on the field.

DL- its a mucher tougher battle. 

Then in the later rounds they could look for a pure guard.  But there's only  1 spot among the OL group right now open maybe 2.  

 

 

 

[COB]

  On 4/2/2025 at 12:53 PM, AMPHAR said:

Just a guess.   My guess is one or more of the tackles is on their target list at 17.   Brown has 2 years, entering his 30s, and has had injury issues popping up.  They've had OT injuries just about every year.

A OT draft pick could do the following: Improve guard (play OT draftee there immediately), add to OT depth,  plan for future.

Maybe that's why they've halted guard FA search.  

 

 

 

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I can see them doing this.  They’re putting a ton of pressure on Golden.  

[AMPHAR]

Guard is a need for sure.  But they have over 100 NFL starts between the top 3 today.   IF you get Mims/Brown performing up to a level expected/hoped for then hiding low quality starting guards is quite doable.

But they could line up today with what they have and with who they are throwing to, you can expect a top 10 offense.

Its really more about optimization and getting rid of the handful of negative plays that have plagued this offense for what seems like an eternity.    

An equal problem all these years is average to bad tackle play as well.  Jonah Williams? Brown Jr. while he hasn't been that much of an upgrade and Right Tackle has been a parade of hoping they get at least average.

If there's a high quality tackle at 17 just given the history.   They have to consider it.

[ArmyBengal]

Yeah I’m pretty much thinking anything on the o-line and any defensive position is up for consideration at #17.

Although I could probably say that’s the case through all the rounds.

[HoosierCat]

I can dig it.

 

[COB]

Supposedly the most nfl-ready edge in the draft.  Won the college award whatever it’s called.  I can see them doing this, giving Trey a raise for this season only.  Seems like something they’d do.

[HoosierCat]

Joe is down with Banks.

https://youtu.be/jqvdVeYj--s?si=6O7aT3tWjkjKIwst

 

[ArmyBengal]

Two weeks from tomorrow and I really don't think there's much clarity to which direction they could go.

Since we are only left to guess, I would put #17 at something like...

DE
OT/OG
Safety
Linebacker
CB
DT

I don't think QB, WR, TE or RB should even be a consideration within the first 3 rounds unless someone extraordinary falls to them they simply thought had no shot of falling into their laps.