Stripes Posted September 15 Report Share Posted September 15 Hate a rookie safety drafted in the 7th round being on the field against the best QB in the league with the game on the line Hate Ja'Marr Chase proving that he has absolutely no composure like a member of a winning culture should Hate turning the greatest interception in Bengals history into a Chiefs defensive touchdown Hate the offense being consistently without answers on third down Hate the run defense being exactly as bad as expected Hate the run defense inevitably getting worse as injuries mount Hate yet another 0-2 Fortunately the AFC North does not yet look like a powerhouse. The likely worst team is leading it after winning two absolute duds of games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volcom69 Posted September 16 Report Share Posted September 16 21 minutes ago, Stripes said: Hate a rookie safety drafted in the 7th round being on the field against the best QB in the league with the game on the line Hate Ja'Marr Chase proving that he has absolutely no composure like a member of a winning culture should Hate turning the greatest interception in Bengals history into a Chiefs defensive touchdown Hate the offense being consistently without answers on third down Hate the run defense being exactly as bad as expected Hate the run defense inevitably getting worse as injuries mount Hate yet another 0-2 Fortunately the AFC North does not yet look like a powerhouse. The likely worst team is leading it after winning two absolute duds of games. Was Battle active? Why was he not on the field? Not sure why the rookie was there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volcom69 Posted September 16 Report Share Posted September 16 So here’s what I’m wondering I know Chase is doubled all the time, but he either never gets open or Joe never throws to him. I always see star receivers get huge yards, and I’m sure they are getting double teamed. So wonder what’s up with that. However Burrow has been throwing it around though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMPHAR Posted September 16 Report Share Posted September 16 Week 1 Joe just didn't see the field very well. They let opportunities slip out of their hand allowing NE to play keep away. They ran 48-50 plays with Chase playing 83% of the snaps. Just hard to consistently force the ball to J'mar player in that circumstance. I do think Joe had a chance to get him the ball on a couple more occasions week 1. Week 2 Joe clearly found other targets. Moved the ball very well. When the all-22 break downs come we'll see if any chances were there for Chase that would turn a FG into a TD or a 3rd down into a first down. I'd say the biggest issue that would change 2 close loses into wins would be ball security. Then better 3rd down performance from an offensive view point. The 0-2 start sucks once again and they have issues to address but this team could easily run off a win streak. Chase eventually will uncork a big day. Higgins I guess with return and now they have a handful of guys that can supplement them that will only cement roles going forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMPHAR Posted September 16 Report Share Posted September 16 I believe Battle was active on special teams. You could kinda tell in preseason and TC he was not going to be big factor early on IF everyone remained healthy. I don't know why fans consider Battle to be some defensive stopper. He landed on a PFF list one time. Just like William Jackson 111 then fans run with it. PFF is crap. Battle has potential but was just as unreliable as any other safety last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMPHAR Posted September 16 Report Share Posted September 16 To me the ref behind the line was done calling penalties and was content to "let them play" on the 4th and 16. He had called several penalties prior in Bengals favor. He was done. While the secondary ref was looking to call something. You get a PI that basically hands them a game winning FG attempt; kudos to their kicker. But ignore the bear hug pass pro on the same play. KC tackles are trash. They are basically daring the ref crew to ruin the game then come playoff time they'll get away with murder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted September 16 Author Report Share Posted September 16 Pacheco fractured his fibula, looks likely to miss at least four weeks. https://sports.yahoo.com/chiefs-rb-isiah-pacheco-reportedly-fractures-fibula-vs-bengals-likely-headed-for-injured-reserve-135703822.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AMPHAR Posted September 16 Report Share Posted September 16 Rex Ryan on one of those ESPN shows says Chiefs don't want a rematch with Bengals. In summary Lou has figured out Mahomes add in Higgins. I wish they would be saying that with a Bengals win from yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volcom69 Posted September 16 Report Share Posted September 16 Should have been a win I hate blaming the refs PI or not still thinking the WR jumped backwards and hit the DB, they don’t call those with hailmaries. The Chiefs were holding big time on that same play and it was not called. Just pisses me off! Ill be curious though to see how this team handles this lose. Will it bring them closer together as a team and we actually start seeing them play better as a team, or will it be opposite. Guess time will tell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted September 16 Report Share Posted September 16 As much as I'd love to blame the refs, I just can't. Don't fumble the ball into a defensive touchdown in the 4th quarter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMPHAR Posted September 17 Report Share Posted September 17 Same ole, same ole for NFL rule book. By the letter of the law. In reality that's a no call situation. Its a free ball, WR is moving backwards into a defender attempting to play the ball moving forward. If the players are reversed, they aren't calling Offensive pass interference. The players collide. Defender actually touches the ball. Just a horrible call. The refs handed them the opportunity for a game winner FG attempt. You can blame refs plenty in this situation, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted September 17 Report Share Posted September 17 Not that it matters, but I had no issue with that call. While Anthony was going up to make a play on the ball and the two collided, he got there long before the ball got to them. Had Anthony not hit the dude in the helmet when bringing up his hands, it might not have looked as bad as it did. Just from my perspective, but if any defender gets to one of our WR's before the ball does and interrupts their ability to make a play on the ball, I'm screaming for a flag. Right or wrong, being 0-2 sucks, but I thought this was a loss before the season started. This was a HUGE improvement from week 1 and should help remind everyone the Bengals are capable of beating the best. I think it has been mentioned, but if they continue to play like that, the start of a 5 game win streak could be coming. Maybe more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted September 17 Report Share Posted September 17 On 9/13/2024 at 5:21 PM, ArmyBengal said: More interesting…. Jackson Carman is still not on ANY team. Straight ass !! The Ogbuehi effect continues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMPHAR Posted September 18 Report Share Posted September 18 The contact happened because of the WR moving backwards and the DB moving to make a play on the ball. Fans are always going to scream for a flag when their WR is touched. However, there are bunch of times that is simply is a no call. It was bad officiating by the crew on that drive. You are going to let an offense bail themselves out on a 4 and 16 with a jump ball? The reason it was 4th and 16 was they couldn't block, but on the 4th down they couldn't block without holding but you reward the jump ball while the WR was moving backward and ignore the very reason why it was 4th and 16? Just pure crap. Flags should have been kept in the pocket based on the way it unfolded. On a greater scale KCs front office has done a horrible job filling in WRs and OTs. Great QB plays and lucky circumstances bail them out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted September 18 Report Share Posted September 18 I get that, but the defender got their before the ball did. That will get called damn near every time. Again, no issue by me. Agree to disagree, although I'm well aware society today doesn't really understand what that means... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMPHAR Posted September 18 Report Share Posted September 18 1 hour ago, ArmyBengal said: I get that, but the defender got their before the ball did. That will get called damn near every time. Again, no issue by me. Agree to disagree, although I'm well aware society today doesn't really understand what that means... The defender got to the spot first. The contact was caused by the WR moving backwards. The assertion that contact is called damn near every time is false. Hopefully Bengals get a couple bad ref decisions in their favor coming up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted September 19 Report Share Posted September 19 So can’t agree to disagree? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMPHAR Posted September 19 Report Share Posted September 19 8 hours ago, ArmyBengal said: So can’t agree to disagree? Correct. When a ref flips a 4th and 16 into a game winning FG attempt, it deserves to be called out, IMO. This isn't even a rarity in the NFL. It seemingly happens every week to some or multiple fan bases. The Cheifs got a similar penalty circumstance to win a Superbowl vs. the Eagles. Yeah, but hopefully the Bengals will get their Under 2 minute, trailing gift soon on a hopeless 4th down. Could have used it in Superbowl 56 though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted September 19 Report Share Posted September 19 You win... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMPHAR Posted September 19 Report Share Posted September 19 4 minutes ago, ArmyBengal said: You win... You mean the Chiefs won, right? There's still Bengal fans whipping themselves over the Steeler playoff loss. It wasn't the refs, we deserved to lose. Fuck that. That game was an officiating nightmare that once again set up a winning FG for a team that made 0 plays to get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted September 19 Report Share Posted September 19 9 minutes ago, AMPHAR said: You mean the Chiefs won, right? There's still Bengal fans whipping themselves over the Steeler playoff loss. It wasn't the refs, we deserved to lose. Fuck that. That game was an officiating nightmare that once again set up a winning FG for a team that made 0 plays to get it. No, I mean the conversation. People today can no longer agree to disagree. You view it through one lens and I from another. I'm cool ending conversations when I reach that point. I'm not one to blame refs for the loss of a game. There were simply too many other mistakes that took place. Burrow's fumble for a scoop and score. Money Mac being anything other than money on the point after. A whopping 74 yards rushing. 4 of 13 on 3rd down conversion. Does any of that negate what may or may not been a bad call to end the game? No, but blaming the refs seems to let the team off the hook in areas they should not have been so deficient in. The Bengals should have won that game Sunday and if they clean those things up, I don't think they lose many more moving forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMPHAR Posted September 19 Report Share Posted September 19 On a side note after all-22 review. On both TD passes somehow Yoshi's towel ends up on the turf. No flag. But no one cares because of the end result. I can guarantee you, the one that was a toe tapper IF it got ruled the other way there would be much conversation about the holding prior that wasn't flagged. This notion of well there's contact so its a penalty is false. They call it subjectively. It was crap call at the end of the game. Chiefs had to make 0 plays to get a winning FG attempt. Hopefully the Bengals get a similar call under 2 minutes to go, trailing on hopeless 4th down later in the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMPHAR Posted September 23 Report Share Posted September 23 Just to beat that dead horse at least once more. The PI no call in the endzone Chiefs vs. Falcons sunday night football stings badly a week after losing on a shit call. Chiefs defender back to the ball, bear hug around the WR before the ball arrived. No call. Even Collinsworth had to call it out. Of course critical part of the game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted September 23 Report Share Posted September 23 Yep, should have been pass interference for sure. Not quite the same scenario, but should have been for the same reason the Bengals call WAS made, that Collinsworth pointed out. "Contact before the ball got there". Mind hasn't changed about Bengals game and the Falcons got screwed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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