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AMPHAR Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 Sweet pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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membengal Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 by that, Simmons means a punt returner who puts the "fear of god" into teams having to punt to him. He's been wanting one since Pacman's days ended with the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TJJackson Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 well, one of the things I said we could really use immediately - 2023 - is a talented KR/PR I feel like we've been using average guys who could do it but that was about it for years Good pick, even though it isnt a ORT or TE. If he proves to be a plus KR/PR, he is a roster lock I'll be watching this guy closely He looks kinda sad in that reaction to being drafted by us tho Also, noted that the QB we were targeting was taken by the Browns a few picks later....guess we'll have to re-sign Allen after all also noted - the Rapistbergers are really pushing the reset button on their DLine, arent they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 Weird to see a guy crying with tears of joy and assume he's sad. Come the fuck on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 wasnt the impression I was left with, but ok in any case, my reaction to this pick is positive, so calm yourself a bit :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 more than half of everything you type is so fucking negative. Why the hell would you look at a guy getting the call of his dreams late in the 4th round and think he is sad about it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 just my honest impression as I said, I like this pick. Please take note of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 Quote “No matter where you throw the ball, he’s going to make the play,” receivers coach Troy Walters said. “He’s a technical route runner. If it’s a 15-yard route, he’s going to run 15. If it’s 12 yards, he’s going to get 12. He knows how to manipulate coverages to beat the defenders at the top of his routes. He just knows how to get open. He’s a football player, and that’s what we need. Very similar to when I was in Indianapolis with Peyton Manning. With Joe (Burrow), he wants you to be in the right spot at the right time, and that’s what Charlie does. He’s going to be in the right spot. He’s someone that Joe can count on.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMPHAR Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 Love hearing the punt return stuff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 Ok maybe I’m looking in the wrong place or watching the wrong highlights, but can someone point me to what would have me believe this guy is a “Fear of God” returner ?? I see nothing that makes this guy stand out from any other returner I’ve ever seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 he was the 2021 returner of the year in the big 10 for Iowa. Simmons says he is close to that level of quality returner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 Don’t get me wrong, I like the pick a lot, but don’t see the returner I’m hearing people talk about. I see speed. I don’t see twitch and cutting ability that makes me think “Fear of God”. Pacman was that kind of returner. Maybe I’m looking at the wrong guy. I can’t find him in the top 50 of any return stat last year. Odd… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted April 30, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 His best year by far was 2021. https://www.foxsports.com/college-football/charlie-jones-5-player-stats?category=returning&seasonType=reg Some perspective on his importance to Iowa: Quote How productive was Jones as a return man? During his two seasons wearing black and gold, Jones compiled 508 punt return yards and 635 kick return yards and became one of only three Hawkeyes in program history to return both a punt and kick for a touchdown. Jones was the only player in the nation to average over 7.0 yards per return on 30+ punts in 2021, led the Big Ten in punt return yards per game in both 2020 and 2021, and returned more punts (37) than any player in college football last season. He was dynamic with the ball in his hands and, just as importantly, was sure handed when fielding punts. Jones helped spark an inconsistent Hawkeye offense by regularly gifting it with short fields, and his 100-yard kick return against Illinois helped jolt the struggling team back to life and propel Iowa to a critical conference win. https://www.blackheartgoldpants.com/2022/5/27/23143913/charlie-jones-transfer-iowa-hawkeyes-answer-return-special-teams-bhgp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 Purdue wisely used him as a WR - hence the ridiculous stats. Iowa treat WR as decoys in their archaic offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 Interesting. I have the right guy then. Again, I love the pick from a WR point. However, when watching him, I don’t see a special return guy. I see speed. Not that I won’t take that and hope for TD’s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted May 1, 2023 Report Share Posted May 1, 2023 Hobs' notes on Jones pick: Quote FOURTH ROUND: Purdue WR/Returner Charlie Jones: One might look at Jones' three stops and wonder. Buffalo, Iowa. West Lafayette. Area scout Christian Sarkisian looked and came away impressed, believing it shows they're getting a guy with that ever-elusive right stuff. "He left Buffalo, bet on himself and went to Iowa as a walk-on and won a scholarship," Sarkisian says. "At Iowa, that offense is not a very friendly offense for wide receivers and he bet on himself again when he hooked up with his childhood friend." That would be Purdue quarterback Aidan O'Connell and both benefitted by the move. On Saturday, after the Bengals took Jones, the nation's leading receiver with 110 catches, O'Connell went two picks later to the Raiders. "They were roommates and in their free time they put a big white board in the family room and went through the playbook drawing up plays and talking about different route concepts and finding out exactly what the quarterback wanted and what the receiver expected," Sarkisian says. "Then Charlie Jones triples his career production by week three at Purdue." Sarkisian saw Jones early in the season, when Purdue hosted Penn State on a Thursday night. He and Potts went to that game and then Sarkisian took off for a Friday night game in Champaign, Ill. So on back-to-back nights he ended up scouting the Bengals' fourth- and fifth-round picks. "At both places (Iowa and Purdue) they loved the person," Sarkisian says of Jones. "A unique athlete with excellent speed, great hands. Go back and look at his return numbers from Iowa (a kick return TD and a punt return TD and the 2021 Big Ten Special Teams Player of the Year) because they didn't use him a lot there at Purdue. But put on his special teams tape at Iowa you see a guy that can be a starting NFL returner." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted May 1, 2023 Report Share Posted May 1, 2023 Please God, let this kid be the returner we've been asking for since forever !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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