GapControl Posted June 3, 2018 Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 https://mobile.twitter.com/NFLFootballOps/status/1002980668089831425/video/1 The new helmet and tackling rule in video Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMPHAR Posted June 3, 2018 Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 NFL has always made the mistake of enforcing “safety” during the game. Only the over the top blatant calls should be flagged, IMO. Then after the game film is reviewed by a team then fines and suspensions are handed out. Eventually leading to league expulsion if the using of the head continues. NFL tackling has declined since the salary cap indirectly reduced contact practices. NFL is correct in trying to remove the head from tackling but it’s impossible to call it fairly in today’s game. Might want to introduce real performance enhancing drug testing too. If they do, surprisingly these players will shrink and slow down. Those allowing for better form tackling All this rule will do is drive fans away from watching. Games will looked more fixed than they already are and with increased sports betting coming it will be a mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COB Posted June 4, 2018 Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 On 6/3/2018 at 8:40 AM, AMPHAR said: Might want to introduce real performance enhancing drug testing too. If they do, surprisingly these players will shrink and slow down. Yep. Guys today are giants compared to 30 or 40 years ago. But the brain is still encased in a bone container, floating in the same fluid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted June 4, 2018 Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 Ahhhhh, 30 years ago. 1988 and the last time the Bengals went to the Super Bowl. 9 pro-bowl players on that team. You know, when the pro-bowl meant something ?? Starting offensive linemen from that season: Anthony Munoz- 6'6, 278 Bruce Reimers- 6'7, 285 Bruce Kozerski- 6'4, 287 Max Montoya- 6'5, 282 Joe Walter- 6'7, 292 That's averaging nearly 6'6 and nearly 285lbs. Projected starters (kind of) for this season: Cordy Glenn- 6'6, 345 Clint Boling- 6'5, 305 Billy Price- 6'5, 305 Westerman- 6'3, 300 Fisher- 6'6, 305 That's an average of 6'5 and 312lbs. Bobby Hart would up that average being in the 330's, but I think it will be Fisher. Just thought it would be interesting to go back and take a look at the o-line in comparison to today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GapControl Posted June 5, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 Take a look at the starting Defensive line in 81 or even 88. Without looking, I bet it’s just as much a difference as the Oline above Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 in 88, we had a safety who weighed more than one of our DEs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMPHAR Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 I wonder if the NFL does in-depth analysis? Just from the Twitter clip above majority plays: Offense throws underneath zone coverage defense plays kill the man with the ball. David Fulcher was bigger than Jim Skow, lol. Lowering your head has always been bad in football, I’m kinda shocked the football media treats this as some new revelation. A lot of Bengal fans cried foul and knew Shazier was playing with fire after the 2015 season. Same with Mitchell. Same with Burfict in 2014 when he concussed himself twice trying to knock out QBs lowering his head (Flacco’s steel cup and Lucks rib jacket) I watch a lot of 80’s football just because it was a more entertaining product to me for a variety of reasons. Maybe somebody can find a clip of Fulcher launching head first but my recollection is that he hit you with chest and hips and tried to run through a ball carrier. The correct way to tackle that’s been perverted so much in the NFL that style is referred to as rugby style tackling now, WTF? Anyway. Throw underneath and let defense hunt is the style of football with extended offense via penalty. Number 1 that’s boring football. Let defenders hand fight more encouraging more man coverage. Kick out the head first launchers instead of excusing them ala Shazier. A lot of Bengal fans predicted something like that would happen to him. Just a dirty ass player. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 Ok, I had some time. Starting defense from 1988: LDE Skip McClendon- 6'6, 282 NT Tim Krumrie- 6'2, 270 RDE Jim Skow- 6'3, 253 LOLB Leon White- 6'3, 240 LILB Carl Zander- 6'2, 235 RILB Joe Kelly- 6'2, 227 ROLB Reggie Williams- 6'1, 228 LCB Lewis Billups- 5'11, 190 RCB Eric Thomas- 5'11, 184 SS David Fulcher- 6'3, 236 FS Solomon Wilcots- 5'11, 189 That's an average of nearly 6'2 and 230lbs. Starting defense (maybe) for 2018: DE Carlos Dunlap- 6'6, 280 DT Geno Atkins- 6'1, 300 DT Andrew Billings- 6'1, 325 DE Jordan Willis- 6'4, 255 OLB Nick Vigil- 6'2, 239 ILB Preston Brown- 6'1, 251 OLB Vontaze Burfict- 6'1, 255 CB William Jackson- 6'0, 187 CB Dre Kirkpatrick- 6'2, 185 SS Shawn Williams- 6'0, 210 FS George Iloka- 6'4, 225 That's an average of 6'2 and 246lbs. Obviously, there is the difference of the 3-4 vs the 4-3 alignment and I guessed at starters, but it's going to be fairly close regardless. George Iloka is a big dude and the rookie Bates is the next tallest safety at 6'2. Malik Jefferson is the tallest LB at 6'3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMPHAR Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 Lol, Krumrie playing NT at 270. That was probably undersized even for back then. Amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GapControl Posted June 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 I think Hobs reported that Willis and Lawson have put on weight during the off-season. It may not be updated on the official roster. Krumrie at 270 is a shocker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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