TJJackson Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 First, the Colts lose their top receiver last night/>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/10/21/mri-confirms-torn-acl-for-reggie-wayne/Second, we have Lucks favorite receiver at Stanford on our roster inactive week after weekCan we get a 2014 5th rounder for him?Or better yet, a nickel corner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 With Hawkins due back soon -- he was out doing drills with the other wideouts before the Detroit game -- that's not a crazy idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyline Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 With Hawkins due back soon -- he was out doing drills with the other wideouts before the Detroit game -- that's not a crazy idea.Not a crazy idea for us, but I really don't see us getting anything like that from the Colts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 With Hawkins due back soon -- he was out doing drills with the other wideouts before the Detroit game -- that's not a crazy idea.Not a crazy idea for us, but I really don't see us getting anything like that from the Colts.Probably not. IMO it would be worth a phone call, though. Someone is going to get cut to make room for Hawkins and if we can even get a 6 or 7, may as well take it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princeton Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 there's been stupidity over this guy for two years, probably in part because we didn't want to see him do well someplace else. Well, end the stupidity. just cut Whalen drop a 4th tight end too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 I don't really mind the idea, but I don't take it seriously either. This is just an extremely specific notion which, to my knowledge, has not been reflected in any actual franchise discourse publicly. Shrug.Seems like Sanzenbacher offers the same skill set and then some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COB Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 First, the Colts lose their top receiver last night/>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/10/21/mri-confirms-torn-acl-for-reggie-wayne/Second, we have Lucks favorite receiver at Stanford on our roster inactive week after weekCan we get a 2014 5th rounder for him?Or better yet, a nickel corner?Makes great sense for both teams. I wonder if the Colts have anyone to give us. If nothing specific, take a 5th for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 Getting a draft pick, even a 7th, would pleasantly surprise me for someone like Whalen who has done basically nothing in his career whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 Aye,I'd call them up see what they'd offer With Hawk coming back and Personally I like Sanzenbacher more then Whalen see what we can get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingwilly Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 Keeping a guy on a roster just so someone else can't have them is piss poor NFL management.Funny, Hawk gets hurt and the guy who backs him up never gets a catch. that's called being "not really good enough" right there.Send him to Indy for anything, a loaf of rye bread maybe. heck, I'm hungry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted October 22, 2013 Report Share Posted October 22, 2013 Keeping a guy on a roster just so someone else can't have them is piss poor NFL management.Funny, Hawk gets hurt and the guy who backs him up never gets a catch. that's called being "not really good enough" right there.Send him to Indy for anything, a loaf of rye bread maybe. heck, I'm hungry.Well he's like 2 people HawkHawk>Sanu> Sanzenbacher> Whalen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essexjohnson Posted October 25, 2013 Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 What rd did we get him in? Would rather send him to the NFC but yes lets get rid of him. Reminds me of a lesser version of Simpson was on the roster for how many years before he played? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjakq27 Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 there's been stupidity over this guy for two years, probably in part because we didn't want to see him do well someplace else. Well, end the stupidity. just cut Whalen drop a 4th tight end too.I agree but maybe wait until we play the Colts, lol. And how's that Orson Charles thing working out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Ray Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 And how's that Orson Charles thing working out?Great! We haven't needed him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cHaD711Johnson Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 And how's that Orson Charles thing working out?Great! We haven't needed himAnd we run so much 2TE that Conner would have hardly been used anyways. Still makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 And how's that Orson Charles thing working out?Great! We haven't needed himAnd we run so much 2TE that Conner would have hardly been used anyways. Still makes sense.Ehhhhh...I think the lack of a true FB can be seen in the rushing stats. The Bengals have risen to No. 9 offensively, but it's been on the strength of the passing game. The run game is sub-par in yards (19), points (19) and YPA (25). They are on pace for just under 1,600 rushing yards, which would be the lowest since 2010 (4-12). That could bite them in the second half of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cHaD711Johnson Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 And how's that Orson Charles thing working out?Great! We haven't needed himAnd we run so much 2TE that Conner would have hardly been used anyways. Still makes sense.Ehhhhh...I think the lack of a true FB can be seen in the rushing stats. The Bengals have risen to No. 9 offensively, but it's been on the strength of the passing game. The run game is sub-par in yards (19), points (19) and YPA (25). They are on pace for just under 1,600 rushing yards, which would be the lowest since 2010 (4-12). That could bite them in the second half of the season.Is it the lack of a FB hurting that, or is that more due to the line? The line has been great in pass protection, but not nearly as good in opening up holes for our RBs. Look at how our interior was dominated yesterday against the run. Granted, against some great DL, but Conner wouldn't have helped open holes against Wilkerson and Richardson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 Is it the lack of a FB hurting that, or is that more due to the line? The line has been great in pass protection, but not nearly as good in opening up holes for our RBs. Look at how our interior was dominated yesterday against the run. Granted, against some great DL, but Conner wouldn't have helped open holes against Wilkerson and Richardson.Line play could be an issue, too, but the line is mostly the same as last season, and rushing YPA has dropped from 4.1 to 3.6. What would be nice is stats on rushes with and without a FB from last season (Pressley/Conner played 19% of snaps last year)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyline Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 It's interesting, but they've basically abandoned the run in several games (including the last two).I'm guessing their newly found air attack will open up the run later in the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cHaD711Johnson Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 Is it the lack of a FB hurting that, or is that more due to the line? The line has been great in pass protection, but not nearly as good in opening up holes for our RBs. Look at how our interior was dominated yesterday against the run. Granted, against some great DL, but Conner wouldn't have helped open holes against Wilkerson and Richardson.Line play could be an issue, too, but the line is mostly the same as last season, and rushing YPA has dropped from 4.1 to 3.6. What would be nice is stats on rushes with and without a FB from last season (Pressley/Conner played 19% of snaps last year)...The line is the same, but Whit is banged up. Cook has been subpar, and Boling has had his struggles as well. I'm not that surprised.But, agreed. I would like to see the numbers that you referenced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Ray Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 It's interesting, but they've basically abandoned the run in several games (including the last two).I'm guessing their newly found air attack will open up the run later in the season.I agree. That's the way it worked out last yr. In today's NFL, the pass sets up the run, not the other way around as we were all taught to believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essexjohnson Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 The game-team we are playing has a lot to do with it. The schedule is much more difficult and the skill guys on offense are really new this year. Sanu and Jones mostly non factors and effiert and Gino weren't here. So comparisons to last years stats hard to apply imop, I think o line has played very well. Aside from the goal line debacle, I remember several well time 4-5 yard runs keeping the Jets honest. If they can't stop us from passing, why go away from it? If the next team tries to stop pass and takes people out of the box, let's pound them. I think we have the versatility to look like a different O every week and I like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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