"My boss loves offense"

[ShulaSteakhouse]

"My boss loves offense,'' Lewis said Tuesday morning.

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Still no doubt who's calling the final shot with the 1st pick I guess.

Sort of a curious thing to just blurt out before a draft (if it even happens).

[BengalPimp]

"My boss loves offense,'' Lewis said Tuesday morning.

Lewis then added "My Boss also loves '91 Lumina's"

[HairOnFire]

"My boss loves offense,'' Lewis said Tuesday morning.

"We are the bastard sons of Paul Brown..."

[ArmyBengal]

I'm left wondering how much he loved his offense last season ??

I mean there were so many moves made to improve that unit right ??

They added Gresham, Shipley, and TO for the passing game and it fizzled.

I'm still of the mindset Chad and TO went about things there own way, but Carson lobbied for that mess.

[DC_Bengals_Fan]

They added Gresham, Shipley, and TO for the passing game and it fizzled.

For what it's worth, I'll keep Shipley and Gresham. If it weren't for those two guys, Carson might have had a Kordellian QB rating.

[ArmyBengal]

Oh, I have no issue whatsoever with the addition of Shipley and Gresham.

My point is, even with their addition as well as that of TO, the offense still sputtered.

Many have their opinions and I think that Chad and TO didn't help the cause, but I'm curious how an owner viewed last year when he claims to love offense. They clearly thought they were making strides to improve that area of the game and even catered to their franchise QB in bringing in TO. The whole thing was a f*cking mess for many reasons.

[kevnz]

The owner doesn't love offense, he loves offensive skill positions. If this team had five guys that could block worth a damn they would have won a bunch more games, the qb wouldn't be a battered broken mess, and the d would have been off the field more. So no, the owner doesn't love offense. If he did Paul Alexander would have been gone years ago.

[membengal]

Yeah, ML has it wrong.

MikeyB doesn't love offense.

MikeyB loves the IDEA of offense.

That's a crucial distinction.

[agreen_112]

Oh, I have no issue whatsoever with the addition of Shipley and Gresham.

My point is, even with their addition as well as that of TO, the offense still sputtered.

Many have their opinions and I think that Chad and TO didn't help the cause, but I'm curious how an owner viewed last year when he claims to love offense. They clearly thought they were making strides to improve that area of the game and even catered to their franchise QB in bringing in TO. The whole thing was a f*cking mess for many reasons.

Little too late.. We all know the true problem behind this spectacular offensive skill group. Two words. Bob. Bratkowski. Gosh, you guys never seez (whatever can't spell don't give a f) to amaze me. Your book smarts, writing, and grammar skills are excellent. Football knowledge.... ummmmm... suspect to say the least.

I'm not dissing you Army. I'm using your post as an example. T.O. was a GREAT addition.

Bratkowski should've been fired 3 years ago. Little too late - the story of the Cincinnati Bengals. MB is p***y.

[volcom69]

Oh, I have no issue whatsoever with the addition of Shipley and Gresham.

My point is, even with their addition as well as that of TO, the offense still sputtered.

Many have their opinions and I think that Chad and TO didn't help the cause, but I'm curious how an owner viewed last year when he claims to love offense. They clearly thought they were making strides to improve that area of the game and even catered to their franchise QB in bringing in TO. The whole thing was a f*cking mess for many reasons.

Little too late.. We all know the true problem behind this spectacular offensive skill group. Two words. Bob. Bratkowski. Gosh, you guys never seez (whatever can't spell don't give a f) to amaze me. Your book smarts, writing, and grammar skills are excellent. Football knowledge.... ummmmm... suspect to say the least.

I'm not dissing you Army. I'm using your post as an example. T.O. was a GREAT addition.

Bratkowski should've been fired 3 years ago. Little too late - the story of the Cincinnati Bengals. MB is p***y.

LOL too funny TO was a horrible addition. He did not help this team win at all, i dont blame everything on him but he was a big part of the problem. He would shorten his routes, he would rather throw his hands in the air looking for the flag, then actully trying to catch the ball. TO was a joke, Chad is an even bigger joke, and with these two idiots on the team, it only made things worse. You cant win in this league when your players are all about themselves, when this team actully learns to play as a team they may start winning, till then they will always suck!

[TJJackson]

T.O. was a GREAT addition.

Yeah, he was so damn great they are begging him to come back.

No price is too high for ole Alligator arms! Back up the Brink's truck for Mr "I'll run the route if I feel like it"

[ArmyBengal]

Oh, I have no issue whatsoever with the addition of Shipley and Gresham.

My point is, even with their addition as well as that of TO, the offense still sputtered.

Many have their opinions and I think that Chad and TO didn't help the cause, but I'm curious how an owner viewed last year when he claims to love offense. They clearly thought they were making strides to improve that area of the game and even catered to their franchise QB in bringing in TO. The whole thing was a f*cking mess for many reasons.

Little too late.. We all know the true problem behind this spectacular offensive skill group. Two words. Bob. Bratkowski. Gosh, you guys never seez (whatever can't spell don't give a f) to amaze me. Your book smarts, writing, and grammar skills are excellent. Football knowledge.... ummmmm... suspect to say the least.

I'm not dissing you Army. I'm using your post as an example. T.O. was a GREAT addition.

Bratkowski should've been fired 3 years ago. Little too late - the story of the Cincinnati Bengals. MB is p***y.

The only I will say about T.O. is, he had a better year than many thought he was going to have.

That being said, what did his addition to the team do for the Bengals ??

He had good stats that will probably get him another job in 2011 and that's it.

He was a part of the overall problem with the offense and didn't help this team do anything much.

How do people explain Palmer's increased production when he and Chad were no longer in the mix come end of last season ??

Don't worry, I don't feel "dissed".

[Stripes]

T.O. was a GREAT addition.

Yeah, he was so damn great they are begging him to come back.

No price is too high for ole Alligator arms! Back up the Brink's truck for Mr "I'll run the route if I feel like it"

I don't think the Bengals' willingness to bring him back is indicative of the logic (or lack of) behind potentially bringing him back.

[agreen_112]

Oh, I have no issue whatsoever with the addition of Shipley and Gresham.

My point is, even with their addition as well as that of TO, the offense still sputtered.

Many have their opinions and I think that Chad and TO didn't help the cause, but I'm curious how an owner viewed last year when he claims to love offense. They clearly thought they were making strides to improve that area of the game and even catered to their franchise QB in bringing in TO. The whole thing was a f*cking mess for many reasons.

Little too late.. We all know the true problem behind this spectacular offensive skill group. Two words. Bob. Bratkowski. Gosh, you guys never seez (whatever can't spell don't give a f) to amaze me. Your book smarts, writing, and grammar skills are excellent. Football knowledge.... ummmmm... suspect to say the least.

I'm not dissing you Army. I'm using your post as an example. T.O. was a GREAT addition.

Bratkowski should've been fired 3 years ago. Little too late - the story of the Cincinnati Bengals. MB is p***y.

The only I will say about T.O. is, he had a better year than many thought he was going to have.

That being said, what did his addition to the team do for the Bengals ??

He had good stats that will probably get him another job in 2011 and that's it.

He was a part of the overall problem with the offense and didn't help this team do anything much.

How do people explain Palmer's increased production when he and Chad were no longer in the mix come end of last season ??

Don't worry, I don't feel "dissed".

The question you should be asking is what did the Bengals do for T.O.? Because T.O. did a lot for the Bengals. Anyone that denies that is just pure flat-out football retarded. The Bengals are a pathetic excuse for an NFL team that has been losers for the last 20+ years.

[TJJackson]

what did the Bengals do for T.O.? Because T.O. did a lot for the Bengals. Anyone that denies that is just pure flat-out football retarded.

He did indeed do a lot for the team - no denial from me

He took A LOT of salary dollars

He took A LOT of practice and game reps away from far more deserving players

He made A LOT of half-assed attempts to catch the ball

He failed to follow or complete A LOT of his patterns

He helped Carson get A LOT of extra interceptions

he left A LOT of defenders unblocked

He talked A LOT about how great he is

Yep, as anyone can see, he did a lot.

The Bengals are a pathetic excuse for an NFL team that has been losers for the last 20+ years.

.....and if anyone is an authority on being a pathetic excuse and a loser for 20+ years, its agreen/gizzle

[agreen_112]

what did the Bengals do for T.O.? Because T.O. did a lot for the Bengals. Anyone that denies that is just pure flat-out football retarded.

He did indeed do a lot for the team - no denial from me

He took A LOT of salary dollars

He took A LOT of practice and game reps away from far more deserving players

He made A LOT of half-assed attempts to catch the ball

He failed to follow or complete A LOT of his patterns

He helped Carson get A LOT of extra interceptions

he left A LOT of defenders unblocked

He talked A LOT about how great he is

Yep, as anyone can see, he did a lot.

The Bengals are a pathetic excuse for an NFL team that has been losers for the last 20+ years.

.....and if anyone is an authority on being a pathetic excuse and a loser for 20+ years, its agreen/gizzle

Because Jerome Simpson, Andre Caldwell and the other newbs would've done a much better job.... Without T.O. we may have only won 1 game.

I state the facts.

[TJJackson]

Because Jerome Simpson, Andre Caldwell and the other newbs would've done a much better job

I state the facts.

Indeed you did.

Because when the Two Loon Platoon was finally off the field, these WRs did indeed show us what they could do. We finally had a decent offense for the first time all year once the Two Loon Platoon was gone

Without T.O. we may have only won 1 game.

Wrong again idiot!

With TO, we still sucked, due in large part to -- wait for it -- yes, wait a little longer -- TO himself and his piss poor efforts

[derekshank]

Without T.O. we may have only won 1 game.

I state the facts.

You are so full of s**t! You state nothing but uninformed and biased opinions.

These are facts:

Chad and T.O didn't play in the win against San Diego.

T.O. didn't play in the win against Cleveland. (That's 2 wins without T.O.)

Chad and T.O combined for 101 yards and 0 TDs in the win against Baltimore (meanwhile, Benson had 23 rushes for nearly 100 yards).

Chad and T.O. combined for 76 yards and 0 TDs in the win against Carolina (meanwhile, Benson had 27 carries for nearly 100 yards and a TD).

Chad had had 36 yards and 0 TDs in the win against Cleveland (meanwhile, Benson had 31 carries for 150 yards and a TD).

[Sea Ray]

Because Jerome Simpson, Andre Caldwell and the other newbs would've done a much better job.... Without T.O. we may have only won 1 game.

I state the facts.

BabyShanks beat me to it, but the facts are that the Bengals did win more than one game w/o TO. That doesn't say much for your "facts". I think I'll stick to the real world

[ArmyBengal]

Oh, I have no issue whatsoever with the addition of Shipley and Gresham.

My point is, even with their addition as well as that of TO, the offense still sputtered.

Many have their opinions and I think that Chad and TO didn't help the cause, but I'm curious how an owner viewed last year when he claims to love offense. They clearly thought they were making strides to improve that area of the game and even catered to their franchise QB in bringing in TO. The whole thing was a f*cking mess for many reasons.

Little too late.. We all know the true problem behind this spectacular offensive skill group. Two words. Bob. Bratkowski. Gosh, you guys never seez (whatever can't spell don't give a f) to amaze me. Your book smarts, writing, and grammar skills are excellent. Football knowledge.... ummmmm... suspect to say the least.

I'm not dissing you Army. I'm using your post as an example. T.O. was a GREAT addition.

Bratkowski should've been fired 3 years ago. Little too late - the story of the Cincinnati Bengals. MB is p***y.

The only I will say about T.O. is, he had a better year than many thought he was going to have.

That being said, what did his addition to the team do for the Bengals ??

He had good stats that will probably get him another job in 2011 and that's it.

He was a part of the overall problem with the offense and didn't help this team do anything much.

How do people explain Palmer's increased production when he and Chad were no longer in the mix come end of last season ??

Don't worry, I don't feel "dissed".

The question you should be asking is what did the Bengals do for T.O.? Because T.O. did a lot for the Bengals. Anyone that denies that is just pure flat-out football retarded. The Bengals are a pathetic excuse for an NFL team that has been losers for the last 20+ years.

At some point the argument has to move away from the thought of being a laughinstock organization and to focus on the on field stuff.

If agree with thinking the organization sucks, but I defer to Derek's comments and agree with him wholeheartedly.

[derekshank]

I defer to Derek's comments and agree with him wholeheartedly.

It's actually impossible to disagree with my earlier post... because I didn't state an opinion. I merely stated facts.

Giz has a problem seeing the difference.

So, to be clear - My opinion has always been that the Bengals are better when they are a run first team.

The facts that I base this opinion on are found in the fact that when Benson had 23+ carries, the Bengals were 4-2. When Benson had 22 or fewer carries they were 0-10.

I'd be curious to see what facts Giz has to back his opinion that T.O. was a great addition... because I can find no link between T.O./Chad's production and notches in the W column.

[ArmyBengal]

Yeah, meaning the information you posted was what I would have gotten to had you not beaten me to it.

There are just some fans that like certain players without thought to anything else because they are their favorite players.

I ALWAYS defended Palmer because he was my favorite player on the team and initially didn't blame him in the current situation. However, a little further along and I can't stand what he is doing and don't want him back.

I simply think you can love what Chad Johnson did for the Bengals early on, but to continue defending anything he has done since the blowup at halftime in the playoff game is almost inexcusable. He has been nothing short of a distraction, hasn't helped the team win, and hasn't come close to being the dominant player early on. No one can really argue that. All hate aside, it's time to move on.

[agreen_112]

Without T.O. we may have only won 1 game.

I state the facts.

You are so full of s**t! You state nothing but uninformed and biased opinions.

These are facts:

Chad and T.O didn't play in the win against San Diego.

T.O. didn't play in the win against Cleveland. (That's 2 wins without T.O.)

Chad and T.O combined for 101 yards and 0 TDs in the win against Baltimore (meanwhile, Benson had 23 rushes for nearly 100 yards).

Chad and T.O. combined for 76 yards and 0 TDs in the win against Carolina (meanwhile, Benson had 27 carries for nearly 100 yards and a TD).

Chad had had 36 yards and 0 TDs in the win against Cleveland (meanwhile, Benson had 31 carries for 150 yards and a TD).

Cleveland.... Carolina.... Yeah. Keep at it buddy, you might.... maybe you wanna rethink those two. How many first downs did T.O. and Ocho combine for in the win against Baltimore? It's not all about number wise guy. Football is a team sport. It doesn't help when you have a QB that can't hit a crossing pattern (T.O.'s specialty) to save his life.

Palmer and Brat are the two to blame for a lackluster offense.

[agreen_112]

Because Jerome Simpson, Andre Caldwell and the other newbs would've done a much better job.... Without T.O. we may have only won 1 game.

I state the facts.

BabyShanks beat me to it, but the facts are that the Bengals did win more than one game w/o TO. That doesn't say much for your "facts". I think I'll stick to the real world

Little sarcasm there, forgot the smile . The fact is that T.O. walked in off the streets and helped this team. The fact still remains that, unfortunately, Palmer is and HAS been done for 3 seasons now...

[ArmyBengal]

Because Jerome Simpson, Andre Caldwell and the other newbs would've done a much better job.... Without T.O. we may have only won 1 game.

I state the facts.

BabyShanks beat me to it, but the facts are that the Bengals did win more than one game w/o TO. That doesn't say much for your "facts". I think I'll stick to the real world

The fact is that T.O. walked in off the streets and helped this team.

I get your rant here, but I invite you to go further with your opinion.

Helped the team to what exactly ?? 2 wins ??

Did he help mentor the young WR's ??

To use your comment, did he go to the pro bowl ??

Did he do anything outside of give up on plays, ad lib routes, and end up finishing his season here like he does everywhere he goes ??

I will readily admit I was intrigued at the thought of seeing T.O. and Chad together, but it didn't work out and if by USING YOUR WORDS you want to claim "it's not all about the numbers", then T.O. would rank as one of the worst free agent signings ever due to the fact that he did nothing but gather numbers.

So again, what did he help the team with ??