Ex Post Facto: Bengals vs Patriots

[HoosierCat]

Chad had a big day numbers-wise but what did he do in the first quarter when they were still in the game?

1st drive: not targeted.

2nd drive:

1-10-CIN 20 (9:40) 74-D.Roland reported in as eligible. 9-C.Palmer pass short left to 85-C.Ochocinco to CIN 29 for 9 yards (28-D.Butler, 55-B.Spikes).

2-1-CIN 29 (8:55) 32-C.Benson left end to CIN 28 for -1 yards (25-P.Chung, 95-T.Banta-Cain).

3-2-CIN 28 (8:12) 9-C.Palmer pass incomplete short right to 86-D.Coats.

4-2-CIN 28 (8:09) 10-K.Huber punts 46 yards to NE 26, Center-46-Cl.Harris. 19-B.Tate to NE 30 for 4 yards (30-C.Peerman).

Third drive:

1-10-CIN 20 (2:29) 9-C.Palmer pass short right to 85-C.Ochocinco to CIN 34 for 14 yards (25-P.Chung).

1-10-CIN 34 (1:53) 32-C.Benson left tackle to CIN 38 for 4 yards (51-J.Mayo, 75-V.Wilfork).

2-6-CIN 38 (1:12) 74-D.Roland reported in as eligible. 32-C.Benson left guard to CIN 34 for -4 yards (50-R.Ninkovich). FUMBLES (50-R.Ninkovich), RECOVERED by NE-50-R.Ninkovich at CIN 28.

So to recap, he was thrown to twice, caught both balls for 23 yards and picked up our only first down of the quarter. As far as I'm concerned Chad was one of the few guys who actually showed up Sunday.

[kingwilly]

Chad had a big day numbers-wise but what did he do in the first quarter when they were still in the game?

1st drive: not targeted.

2nd drive:

1-10-CIN 20 (9:40) 74-D.Roland reported in as eligible. 9-C.Palmer pass short left to 85-C.Ochocinco to CIN 29 for 9 yards (28-D.Butler, 55-B.Spikes).

2-1-CIN 29 (8:55) 32-C.Benson left end to CIN 28 for -1 yards (25-P.Chung, 95-T.Banta-Cain).

3-2-CIN 28 (8:12) 9-C.Palmer pass incomplete short right to 86-D.Coats.

4-2-CIN 28 (8:09) 10-K.Huber punts 46 yards to NE 26, Center-46-Cl.Harris. 19-B.Tate to NE 30 for 4 yards (30-C.Peerman).

Third drive:

1-10-CIN 20 (2:29) 9-C.Palmer pass short right to 85-C.Ochocinco to CIN 34 for 14 yards (25-P.Chung).

1-10-CIN 34 (1:53) 32-C.Benson left tackle to CIN 38 for 4 yards (51-J.Mayo, 75-V.Wilfork).

2-6-CIN 38 (1:12) 74-D.Roland reported in as eligible. 32-C.Benson left guard to CIN 34 for -4 yards (50-R.Ninkovich). FUMBLES (50-R.Ninkovich), RECOVERED by NE-50-R.Ninkovich at CIN 28.

So to recap, he was thrown to twice, caught both balls for 23 yards and picked up our only first down of the quarter. As far as I'm concerned Chad was one of the few guys who actually showed up Sunday.

I agree, and he made some mad hard catches.

The points I added in bold are my concern. Running over the left side. 3 runs, -1 yards and a lost fumble. Not sure if it is Livings, no help from Cook or Whit but this is not the way those guys should get handled.

[Kazkal]

otice, no OTAs, no offseason conditioning, no extra time with the quarterback to work on timing, no professionalism, no run blocking, no effort to run down defenders who have intercepted the ball or picked up a fumble

no OTA's??Yes because chad wasn't alrdy working out and in such terrible shape

no Timing 8 years with same QB and How many drops did he have? How many times did carson throw to him and it was not a completion?

no run blocking He's never been good at it but plenty of WR's arent...

No Effort on running down Defenders? Um He was the one who chased down the guy after Cedrics Fumble.

[Whur CHad At?]

otice, no OTAs, no offseason conditioning, no extra time with the quarterback to work on timing, no professionalism, no run blocking, no effort to run down defenders who have intercepted the ball or picked up a fumble

no OTA's??Yes because chad wasn't alrdy working out and in such terrible shape

no Timing 8 years with same QB and How many drops did he have? How many times did carson throw to him and it was not a completion?

no run blocking He's never been good at it but plenty of WR's arent...

No Effort on running down Defenders? Um He was the one who chased down the guy after Cedrics Fumble.

Anybody who really knows Chad, knows the man works harder than anyone in the league. Yes he does a lot of off the field stuff, but like I said he isn't getting in trouble with the law and has yet to be suspended for anything.

I still don't understand how people hate Chad? A few years ago ya'll were all over his jock.

[cHaD711Johnson]

It doesn't matter what Chad does the guys on the board that have the agenda towards Chad will still complain.

[jjakq27]

It doesn't matter what Chad does the guys on the board that have the agenda towards Chad will still complain.

Damn straight.

I've grown weary of Krusty the Clown and all of his zany antics and products. While that may seem like I'm being a hater, I just find a lot of his stuff counter-productive and juvenile. I would prefer a more visible focus on football that's all. I shell out serious beans for season tickets and would like to know that he is 100% committed to his craft and the success of his team and not just shameless self-promotion all the time.

As a friend of mine says, "Chad's mama shoulda hugged him more."

[Stripes]

I still don't understand how people hate Chad? A few years ago ya'll were all over his jock.

You must have been in a coma in 2008.

And I was never "all over his jock". While most of his antics are harmless (save for January, 2006 and all of 2008), all of them are annoying.

[jjakq27]

I still don't understand how people hate Chad? A few years ago ya'll were all over his jock.

You must have been in a coma in 2008.

And I was never "all over his jock". While most of his antics are harmless (save for January, 2006 and all of 2008), all of them are annoying.

Thanks for the reminder. Lee Johnson got cut when he made an off-hand remark about the management after a game in 1998. I almost forgot about how Chad quit on the team in 2008 yet still got a healthy salary for it too!

Since the 2006 playoff game, I have viewed him in a different light.

I understand that he has achieved some level of cult status and is a brand instead of a football player but I believe he is the senior man on the roster in terms of tenure now. So act like it. You don't hear the name Chad and leader in the same sentence.

[TJJackson]

I still don't understand how people hate Chad? A few years ago ya'll were all over his jock.

I still don't understand how people unconditionally love Chad, no matter what s**t he pulls?? For a few years now ya'll have been riding in his jock.

[TJJackson]

It doesn't matter what Chad does the guys on the board that have the agenda towards Chad will still complain.

It doesn't matter what Chad does the guys on the board that have Chad as a part of their screenname will still complain that the rest of us just don't understand Chad - when in fact, we do.

[COB]

Chad will always tear it up in garbage time and in meaningless games. Unfortuantely, he absolutely wilts under any kind of pressure. I wish it weren't so, but time and again he sucks when we need him most.

I think it was the end of the '08 season. We had sucked all year. We played the dolphins, who had just hired new GM Bill Parcells. Just playing out the string, neither team going anywhere. No one really cared about the game, it was basically an exhibition game at the end of the year. Chad tore that s**t up.

[Whur CHad At?]

Chad will always tear it up in garbage time and in meaningless games. Unfortuantely, he absolutely wilts under any kind of pressure. I wish it weren't so, but time and again he sucks when we need him most.

I think it was the end of the '08 season. We had sucked all year. We played the dolphins, who had just hired new GM Bill Parcells. Just playing out the string, neither team going anywhere. No one really cared about the game, it was basically an exhibition game at the end of the year. Chad tore that s**t up.

Well it would help sometimes if his QB didn't underthrow the ball or throw it 30 feet above his head( See Playoff game vs. Jets)

[Whur CHad At?]

Why don't we just cut Chad and bring in Reggie Myles?

We will see how far that take us...

[TJJackson]

Why don't we just cut Chad and bring in Reggie Myles?

We will see how far that take us...

Nah, how about Eddie Brown, Cris Collinsworth, and/or Isaac Curtis? Since you like unprofessional players, we'll throw in Carl Pickens as well.

I mean, if you're descending to the level of abject stupidity where you want to talk about bringing in players long since retired, let's at least bring in the greats who actually played the position, no?

[Whur CHad At?]

Why don't we just cut Chad and bring in Reggie Myles?

We will see how far that take us...

Nah, how about Eddie Brown, Cris Collinsworth, and/or Isaac Curtis? Since you like unprofessional players, we'll throw in Carl Pickens as well.

I mean, if you're descending to the level of abject stupidity where you want to talk about bringing in players long since retired, let's at least bring in the greats who actually played the position, no?

None of those guys are great. The Great ones are in the HoF.

And Reggie Myles isn't retired.

[TJJackson]

.....Isaac Curtis......

None of those guys are great.

Congratulations, you're now in the running for the idiot of the year award!

[Whur CHad At?]

.....Isaac Curtis......

None of those guys are great.

Congratulations, you're now in the running for the idiot of the year award!

Am I missing something, is he in the HoF? Nope. He was really good, but he isn't great.

Stop being a homer f**king idiot

[Stripes]

Am I missing something, is he in the HoF? Nope. He was really good, but he isn't great.

That sounds like Colin Cowherd logic alright.

[Whur CHad At?]

Am I missing something, is he in the HoF? Nope. He was really good, but he isn't great.

That sounds like Colin Cowherd logic alright.

Well its true. He was good, but he doesnt have the numbers. He never CHANGED the game. He was good, but he didnt terroize defenses when he played.

Like Lynn Swann, he should be in the HoF. He didnt have a long career, didn't have HoF numbers. He just made awesome catches.

[Sea Ray]

Am I missing something, is he in the HoF? Nope. He was really good, but he isn't great.

That sounds like Colin Cowherd logic alright.

Well its true. He was good, but he doesnt have the numbers. He never CHANGED the game. He was good, but he didnt terroize defenses when he played.

Like Lynn Swann, he should be in the HoF. He didnt have a long career, didn't have HoF numbers. He just made awesome catches.

What do you mean he should be in the Hall of Fame? He is.

He is one of 4 Hall of Famers from Pittsburgh's 1974 draft.

[BengalPimp]

Am I missing something, is he in the HoF? Nope. He was really good, but he isn't great.

That sounds like Colin Cowherd logic alright.

Well its true. He was good, but he doesnt have the numbers. He never CHANGED the game. He was good, but he didnt terroize defenses when he played.

Like Lynn Swann, he should be in the HoF. He didnt have a long career, didn't have HoF numbers. He just made awesome catches.

What do you mean he should be in the Hall of Fame? He is.

He is one of 4 Hall of Famers from Pittsburgh's 1974 draft.

Swannie was voted in 2001 HOF Class

[Kazkal]

I still don't understand how people hate Chad? A few years ago ya'll were all over his jock.

I still don't understand how people unconditionally love Chad, no matter what s**t he pulls?? For a few years now ya'll have been riding in his jock.

I don't have a bromance on the guy,But I don't hate on him for Nothing either "shrug" Guess I'm not a extremist when it comes to chad.

[TJJackson]

Lynn Swann, he should be in the HoF

Swannie was voted in 2001 HOF Class

Keep in mind this is WhurChadAt - he and the other members of the BZ Braintrust don't allow little things like facts and/or reason stand in the way of a moronic rant.

He reminds me (and not in a good way) of Blutarsky from Animal House - "was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? hell no! and it ain't over now....."

[Stripes]

WCA is on a historic run of odd posts, but he never said Lynn Swann isn't in the Hall of Fame.

[cHaD711Johnson]

It doesn't matter what Chad does the guys on the board that have the agenda towards Chad will still complain.

It doesn't matter what Chad does the guys on the board that have Chad as a part of their screenname will still complain that the rest of us just don't understand Chad - when in fact, we do.

I made this screen name in like 2005 when he was leading the league in yards year after year. Chad being self promoting or selfish is a genius move on his part to increase his income. I have no problem with that. 70% of NFL players are broke 3 years after they leave so I am all for Chad maximizing his potential. Outside of his one year where he tried to force his way out, I've completely supported Chad. He even admitted that he was being an a**h*** that year. He still is one of the top WR in the game.

For those saying that he racked up numbers in garbage time how is it garbage time when the Patriots first defense was still on the field? Did the players lighten up or something? That's complete bulls**t.