GoBengals! Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 This mught be a homer idea, but why don't the Bengals somehow try to pick-up/trade Troy Smith from the Ravens. Smith is currently the 3rd QB behind Bulger and would be a great addition over O'Sullivan and Palmer's Bro. If Palmer goes down, this season is in the tank (much like other NFL rosters if their #1 QB goes down)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cincyhokie Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 How about Craig Krenzel or Joe Germaine?Sure why not Troy Smith, he can't be any worse than O'Sullivan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 Heck yeah i 'd do it!!!! but i like lil palmer alot more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Ray Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 The problem is he's under contract with the Ravens and they won't do us any favors. Secondly Mike Brown is not a fan of short QBs. I doubt it'll happen but I agree it can't be any worse than O'Suck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whizzo Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 don't mind me, still pimping Thigpen... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 The problem is he's under contract with the Ravens and they won't do us any favors. Secondly Mike Brown is not a fan of short QBs. I doubt it'll happen but I agree it can't be any worse than O'SuckJT isnt that much taller than troy,.. troy's 10 times more agile, we just gotta wait til he gets cut.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 don't mind me, still pimping Thigpen...He's certainly a more interesting option than Troy Smith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalPimp Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 Troy Smith is NOT an NFL QB....Never will be.......Plain and Simple. He'll be lucky if he gets another couple of years holding a ClipBoard. I'd much rather have him hold it somewhere else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_Bengals_Fan Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 Troy Smith is NOT an NFL QB....Never will be.......Plain and Simple. He'll be lucky if he gets another couple of years holding a ClipBoard. I'd much rather have him hold it somewhere else.Why? By all accounts the Ravens vets wanted him to get the nod over Flacco, and might have done so had he not gotten injured (or sick, I can't recall). Also, I sort of like having a mobile QB as a backup, since he can at least do something with his legs.I'm definitely in the 'nothing can be worse than JT OGodIsuck' camp. For what it's worth, I'm not an OSU fan.But as mentioned, there's no way the Ravens 1) help us out, and 2) send us their playbook. In fact, if the Ravens offered him, I'd decline based on suspicion alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wraith Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 What about Sage Rosenfels? Noise out of Minnesota is that he is going to be the odd man out in the QB competition between Tavaris Jackson, Joe Webb (rookie), and Rosenfels. The Vikings really like their 4th rounder and keeping 4 QBs seems impractical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 Rosenfels has never been anything worth much and I don't know that he would really be that much of an upgrade to what we have.If he is, to what degree. I'd guess not much... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalByTheBay Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 Rosenfels has never been anything worth much and I don't know that he would really be that much of an upgrade to what we have.If he is, to what degree. I'd guess not much...As unhappy as I am with JTOS (like everyone else apparently) this is the real question. Is it worth the hassle to run after somebody who's just not that much better. Rosenfels, Smith, etc., etc., etc. Personally, unless somebody comes available who is a "game manager" type of QB (Pennington, Garcia), my interest level is low. That doesn't mean one of these other guys isn't an upgrade, it's just whether they are enough of an upgrade to make up the stagger of having to learn the offense on the fly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wraith Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 Rosenfels has never been anything worth much and I don't know that he would really be that much of an upgrade to what we have.If he is, to what degree. I'd guess not much...t Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A Sk% AV2002 24 MIA 18 4 0 0 3 0.0 0 0 0.0 0 0.0 0 0.0 0.0 0.0 39.6 0 0 0.0 0.0 0.0 02003 25 MIA 18 2 0 4 6 66.7 50 1 16.7 0 0.0 21 8.3 11.7 12.5 25.0 131.9 0 0 8.3 11.7 0.0 02004 26 MIA 18 3 1 0-1-0 16 39 41.0 264 1 2.6 3 7.7 76 6.8 3.8 16.5 88.0 41.0 3 16 5.9 3.2 7.1 12005 27 MIA 18 4 1 0-1-0 34 61 55.7 462 4 6.6 3 4.9 77 7.6 6.7 13.6 115.5 81.5 0 0 7.6 6.7 0.0 12006 28 HOU 18 4 0 27 39 69.2 265 3 7.7 1 2.6 28 6.8 7.2 9.8 66.3 103.0 1 5 6.5 6.9 2.5 12007 29 HOU qb 18 9 5 4-1-0 154 240 64.2 1684 15 6.3 12 5.0 53 7.0 6.0 10.9 187.1 84.8 6 48 6.7 5.7 2.4 62008 30 HOU qb 18 6 5 2-3-0 116 174 66.7 1431 6 3.4 10 5.7 61 8.2 6.3 12.3 238.5 79.5 9 58 7.5 5.7 4.9 52009 31 MIN 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 The thing that stands out is his completion %, substantially better than J.T.'s career %. 66.7%, 41%, 55.7%, 69.2%, 64.2%, 66.7% the last two were the years he was a starter for at least some of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 And I would simply counter with stats not being the "be all and end all" of the consideration.Having watched Rosenfels when he was starting, I was never impressed. Never.It's not to say he doesn't have potential, but I simply don't think he provides anymore stability to our current backup situation.If I were to look at Vikings QB's, it would be TJax. I can't believe that guy hasn't told them to f*ck themselves.At least he can make things happen with his legs and that is something I would like to see in our backup.Someone that would come in and throw the defense off balance with his ability to scramble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wraith Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 I agree that stats are not the end all be all of a players evaluation but, at least Sage has been shown capable of completing passes consistently in the NFL, I have seen nothing from J.T or Jordan that have shown me they have similar ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 Oh, I'm not making the argument of liking either JT or Jordan. I'm simply saying I don't think Rosenfels provides that much of an upgrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 Unless you like completed passes, army. Then, arguably, he does provide an upgrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 Again, I'm not saying he "doesn't" provide an upgrade, only to what degree. If it's not a significant upgrade to a position we don't expect to play at all, who cares ??Easier said, do you think Rosenfels would win us games if Carson went down ??I wouldn't have anymore faith in him than what we have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cincyhokie Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 I have to admit I hate all things overhyped...and Ohio State. It's a little to close to Cleveland and their fans for my taste. I'll pass on Troy Smith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 Idk why were debating this anyways,.. Were not gonna make a move,.. We should let jordan and and jt get snaps with the 2's, whoever does better,.. wins the job... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COB Posted August 27, 2010 Report Share Posted August 27, 2010 Troy Smith would be a huge upgrade over Carson's mini me or that Irish guy. The previous poster is right, Smith was the starter all during camp, then got the flu a couple weeks before week one. Flacco stepped in and played great, the Ravens haven't looked back. Just because Smith isn't better than Joe Flacco doesn't mean he's not better than our two backups. I watched some of his preseason play last year and he looked pretty good. To sum up, Troy Smith<Joe Flacco Troy Smith>JTOS/Mini MeThere, math proves it, Troy Smith should be our backup quarterback if the Ravens are ever dumb enough to cut him or put him on the practice squad. I am a total mark for Troy Smith because he has some of the tangibles and all of the intangibles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted August 27, 2010 Report Share Posted August 27, 2010 Personally, I have my heart set upon Matt Leinart...who I remind you already has some experience attempting to carry Carson Palmer's jock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted August 28, 2010 Report Share Posted August 28, 2010 Personally, I have my heart set upon Matt Leinart...who I remind you already has some experience attempting to carry Carson Palmer's jock.I think that'd be a great player to bring in, unlikely as it may be. His faults are well documented, but he's capable of playing well sometimes. That immediately places him ahead of O'Sullivan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted August 28, 2010 Report Share Posted August 28, 2010 If you guys want Troy Smith we'll take a pack of juicy fruit and a scratch off ticket. The ticket can even be scratched off already.Actually, having seen more of him as a pro than most of you probably have I'll agree with the negative assessments above. He got a tonsil infection and Flacco got the start his rookie year. By the time Troy was better Flacco actually had more starts than him as a pro. Still, the fact that he couldn't come back and beat out a rookie is a bad sign. If the Ravens had any faith in him would Bulger be getting between 4 and 5 mil this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cincy9275 Posted August 29, 2010 Report Share Posted August 29, 2010 jt is just sad. i can't believe the bengals would start a season with this bum as a backup. cut rayner, jt and get another qb in here. while we still have a couple of weeks to get him ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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