Coles is the reason

[kingwilly]

Oh great not another one of these guys again. I hate when people like this come out of the wood works. I guess you dont see Coles for the little things he does for this team, like make blocks for the running game, hustles every play, makes great catches, dosnt want to be the spotlight, and is a great team player. Did you ever think for once, just maybe this is what Marvin wants to do run the ball and play good defense. Who says they wanna throw it all over the place.

Man you would think people would be happy there winning instead of complaining about stupid stuff like this. Get over Coles would ya!

A lowly Jets fan troll agrees with this statement. He does the little things, especially block. He has, and has always had, his game or two with the drops but is a team player. The only complaint Jet fans ever had with him was he ALWAYS wanted more money than he was worth in our opinion.

Well, you don't need to worry because you now have a WR who drops easier passes upwards of 4-5 times PER GAME! > > Rhymes with Fraylon Bedwards...

[FransonBoomer]

a very good physic, I'd imagine

TJ just admit it you were wrong. Well ofcourse that will never happen.

Remember this is from day 1 the warning and we have not seen the worst of it.

You guys mention all the little things he does great. Stop the madness.

Did you watch the Browns game? 2 catches for 20 yds and 7 incomplete passes.

He is not even being covered by teams. He heads to the sideline every play.

This is a sad joke. I have zero against the man. He had a fine career with the Jets. I truly enjoyed the way he played.

He should have retired a Jet. That would have been the classy thing to do. Now we are stuck with a guy at the end of his career

who made his name for guts. He is not giving us the guts as you can see how scared he is of the middle. I said from week 1 his hands are banged up. Evidenence

is all the drops. The only thing we are getting is the blocking but I don't see the results with his size. I see effort on blocking not on routes and not trying to play hard for 4 quarters.

There is indisputible evidenece to the fact that since Henry is gone the Bengals have not scored a passing TD against the Ravens, Pitt, Raiders, and Browns. Going back further you have Houston and Denver.

What is funny no matter what happens, if you ban me or you make your comments after watching week 12 against

THE WORST TEAM IN THE NFL (with one good corner who was on OCHO) Coles had 2 catches and 7 incomplete. That is a 20% completion ratio.

50% completion ratio on the season. That is as bad as it gets when your a short yardage wide out. What kind of blinders are you wearing?

[FransonBoomer]

I've been here for a while and I think Coles has been a big disappointment. No one's with me on this?

I kind of agree with you. You seem to ignore all the little things he does well though. He has made some great post game comments, and really stepped it up against the Browns.

He is doing one heck of a job blocking. Did u see the Baltimore game week 9 in the 4th quarter

he laid a block on a Raven and basically was tossed into Benson and tackled Benson. Was on the left sideline at our 40.

Was classic. Think you need to give him a few more weeks, give him a chance. First game as a Bengals Carson threw to him 5 times and he had 1 grab for 11

The last game we saw him as a Bengal Carson threw to him 9 times and he grabbed 2 for 21 yds. Wow 14 looks and 3 grabs for a whopping 32yds! Nice completion ratio of 22%

[Stripes]

Coles has had too many drops. Early in the season his contributions were negligible as a pass receiver. He's been fine for about five weeks though, regardless of his bad game against Cleveland. He was the leading receiver on the team against Baltimore and Pittsburgh in the second games against each team.

I'd rather he play well against them than against a Browns team we dominated anyways.

[FransonBoomer]

Coles has had too many drops. Early in the season his contributions were negligible as a pass receiver. He's been fine for about five weeks though, regardless of his bad game against Cleveland. He was the leading receiver on the team against Baltimore and Pittsburgh in the second games against each team.

I'd rather he play well against them than against a Browns team we dominated anyways.

What do you make of the fact the way he enables our opponents to play entirely a different type of defense based on the fact that we have no "proven" threats at all

behind OCHO. Caldwell is still gree, Coles is not in the right mind frame - drops, not syncing with Carson, not once taken anything over 20 yds for a td and TE's that are just ok at best?

I am just saying I certainly expected our #2 to be more threating and then combined with D and the run we would stomp teams. Henry helped there and Coles has not stepped up to #2 level.

he has the roster but not the performance yet. If we had a #2 that was any bit scary even here and there it would = more points there is no doubt.

[wpeldios]

There is indisputible evidenece to the fact that since Henry is gone the Bengals have not scored a passing TD against the Ravens, Pitt, Raiders, and Browns. Going back further you have Houston and Denver.

Once again, Bengals TD

[Ickey44]

Does anyone miss MomsLikeMe?

NO!

[derekshank]

For the record, Coles only has 4 dropped passes on the season. So it's not as dire as anyone is making it appear. He had a bad game against Denver and Cleveland. But I'd argue he was a main reason they beat Baltimore after Henry went down... and Pittsburgh after Benson went out.

And for the record, yes Coles is only catching 50.8% of his targets, but to say he is nothing but a short yardage receiver is just false. He's averaging 12.8 yards/reception. Henry was averaging 15.3 yards/reception and was catching just 52.2% of his targets. How is this a noticable improvement?

[DC_Bengals_Fan]

And for the record, yes Coles is only catching 50.8% of his targets, but to say he is nothing but a short yardage receiver is just false. He's averaging 12.8 yards/reception.

That's because he drops all the short passes. *ducks*

[Ickey44]

And for the record, yes Coles is only catching 50.8% of his targets, but to say he is nothing but a short yardage receiver is just false. He's averaging 12.8 yards/reception. Henry was averaging 15.3 yards/reception and was catching just 52.2% of his targets. How is this a noticable improvement?

It's not when you take into consideration all the small things Coles does that Henry doesn't. Like, blocking, for example.

[FransonBoomer]

For the record, Coles only has 4 dropped passes on the season. So it's not as dire as anyone is making it appear. He had a bad game against Denver and Cleveland. But I'd argue he was a main reason they beat Baltimore after Henry went down... and Pittsburgh after Benson went out.

And for the record, yes Coles is only catching 50.8% of his targets, but to say he is nothing but a short yardage receiver is just false. He's averaging 12.8 yards/reception. Henry was averaging 15.3 yards/reception and was catching just 52.2% of his targets. How is this a noticable improvement?

O.K. First of all he is listed with 4 drops since week 5 in the Washington Post. I have video evidence of 12 Clear drops already and will be providing a link.

Second of all He is a short yardage receiver what is his longest catch? Henry still averages more yards was playing less and did more based on 1/10 the playing time.

Coles brings nothing with his size blocking as confirmed on his scouting report. You need to give it up because 7 incomplete passes and 6 of them were ten yards or under.

We are talking about a 10Million Dollar Wideout who is playing so bad that I am guaranteeing a victory by a large margin now that this "should be reitred" WR is out on IR.

Now the Bengals can prepare for there Superbowl Run. I do not wish bad on LC I just wish he does not put the stripes back on.

[FransonBoomer]

And for the record, yes Coles is only catching 50.8% of his targets, but to say he is nothing but a short yardage receiver is just false. He's averaging 12.8 yards/reception. Henry was averaging 15.3 yards/reception and was catching just 52.2% of his targets. How is this a noticable improvement?

It's not when you take into consideration all the small things Coles does that Henry doesn't. Like, blocking, for example.

Coles is not an effective blocker. Not at his size. He used to be early in his career.

[HairOnFire]

I've been here for a while and I think Coles has been a big disappointment. No one's with me on this?

Almost. I just can't bring myself to say he's been that disappointing. In fact, I'd say he's been as advertised and it's only the impossible to miss or ignore flavor of his drops that really stand out. They're ugly drops. Now couple that with Coles being on the receiving end of several wayward passes that have missed by the proverbial country mile. Glaring unforced errors that rob a team of yards and momentum, right? Impossible to miss. But what kind of numbers are we talking about here? And for that matter, has the success rate been any better when throwing to other wideouts? Because I'm guessing the misfire rate for Palmer and Chad is comparable. Actually, I'm guessing it's worse.

Besides, it's not like they could put Henry in if they wanted to.

And before anyone mentions one of the kids, remind yourself how the very best of that bunch just gave a game away.

[TJJackson]

I have zero against the man.

Every word you have written says otherwise. Never has a more blatantly obvious lie been told on this board, and there have been some doozeys

I said from week 1

You just joined yesterday, so this cannot possibly be true. Blatant lie number 2.

Mods, why is this guy not yet set to 'troll'?

[gregstephens]

For the record, Coles only has 4 dropped passes on the season. So it's not as dire as anyone is making it appear. He had a bad game against Denver and Cleveland. But I'd argue he was a main reason they beat Baltimore after Henry went down... and Pittsburgh after Benson went out.

And for the record, yes Coles is only catching 50.8% of his targets, but to say he is nothing but a short yardage receiver is just false. He's averaging 12.8 yards/reception. Henry was averaging 15.3 yards/reception and was catching just 52.2% of his targets. How is this a noticable improvement?

I have video evidence of 12 Clear drops already and will be providing a link.

Ok, deal. You post a link to every one of those twelve drops...every single one. If not, I'll ban you for excessive trolling. Fair, yes?

You have till Monday, and they have to be in a brand new thread, titled accordingly.

[BengalByTheBay]

For the record, Coles only has 4 dropped passes on the season. So it's not as dire as anyone is making it appear. He had a bad game against Denver and Cleveland. But I'd argue he was a main reason they beat Baltimore after Henry went down... and Pittsburgh after Benson went out.

And for the record, yes Coles is only catching 50.8% of his targets, but to say he is nothing but a short yardage receiver is just false. He's averaging 12.8 yards/reception. Henry was averaging 15.3 yards/reception and was catching just 52.2% of his targets. How is this a noticable improvement?

I have video evidence of 12 Clear drops already and will be providing a link.

Ok, deal. You post a link to every one of those twelve drops...every single one. If not, I'll ban you for excessive trolling. Fair, yes?

You have till Monday, and they have to be in a brand new thread, titled accordingly.

Awesome!! We have til Monday to play with Corky.

[Ickey44]

And for the record, yes Coles is only catching 50.8% of his targets, but to say he is nothing but a short yardage receiver is just false. He's averaging 12.8 yards/reception. Henry was averaging 15.3 yards/reception and was catching just 52.2% of his targets. How is this a noticable improvement?

It's not when you take into consideration all the small things Coles does that Henry doesn't. Like, blocking, for example.

Coles is not an effective blocker. Not at his size. He used to be early in his career.

Um, that doesn't even make any sense. He's the same size he's always been. How can you say his size prevents him from being an effective blocker THEN say he used to be an effective blocker. Did Coles bang your wife are something? Get over your hate. He's not a pro-bowl receiver, but he's better than most of the ones we have. Who exactly would you want to start in his place?

[BengalByTheBay]

He's not a pro-bowl receiver, but he's better than most of the ones we have. Who exactly would you want to start in his place?

Haven't you been paying attention Mr. Mexico? Quan Cosby of course. That's the hidden gem, the diamond yet to be discovered, that will make Coles a distant memory. Quan Freaking Cosby needs more touches but can't get past the pig-headed coaching staff who somehow believes that a veteran receiver is what you need in a playoff drive. Quan Undrafted-M***er-F***ing Cosby is the answer....whooo hoooo. The savant has spoken.

Oh yeah, and Coles is apparently shrinking.....bummer.

Edited December 4, 2009 by BengalByTheBay

[Ickey44]

He's not a pro-bowl receiver, but he's better than most of the ones we have. Who exactly would you want to start in his place?

Haven't you been paying attention Mr. Mexico? Quan Cosby of course. That's the hidden gem, the diamond yet to be discovered, that will make Coles a distant memory. Quan Freaking Cosby needs more touches but can't get past the pig-headed coaching staff who somehow believes that a veteran receiver is what you need in a playoff drive. Quan Undrafted-M***er-F***ing Cosby is the answer....whooo hoooo. The savant has spoken.

Oh yeah, and Coles is apparently shrinking.....bummer.

Quan mothaf**kin Cosby?? Of course. Why didn't I think of that? What has this coaching staff been thinking all year bringing in a still talented vet with over 600 career catches and good run-after-the-catch ability? We got Quan mothaf**kin Cosby, bitches!!

[jonahdsage]

He's not a pro-bowl receiver, but he's better than most of the ones we have. Who exactly would you want to start in his place?

Haven't you been paying attention Mr. Mexico? Quan Cosby of course. That's the hidden gem, the diamond yet to be discovered, that will make Coles a distant memory. Quan Freaking Cosby needs more touches but can't get past the pig-headed coaching staff who somehow believes that a veteran receiver is what you need in a playoff drive. Quan Undrafted-M***er-F***ing Cosby is the answer....whooo hoooo. The savant has spoken.

Oh yeah, and Coles is apparently shrinking.....bummer.

Quan mothaf**kin Cosby?? We got Quan mothaf**kin Cosby, bitches!!

earn ya puddin' quan.

[membengal]

for the season.

Jesus.

And

Laveraneus.

Good to know.

[TJJackson]

Coles is not an effective blocker. Not at his size. He used to be early in his career.

One of the best skill-position blockers the Bengals ever had was this tiny little fellow named James Brooks

Not a good payer of child support, but a wonderful RB - a true tailback or "scatback'

Naturally, since you've been watching the Bengals faithfully for 175 years or whatever, you know all about this guy

You may want to do a little research on his height and weight

Blocking is more about "want" then "weight"

[DC_Bengals_Fan]

Blocking is more about "want" then "weight"

Amen. And that applies to a lot of things in life.

That's probably also why Purify's name has come up before Simpson or Cosby. That dude will get after it.

[HAPPYJAQ]

It's true that Coles has had some drops, but he's also come up with more than a few big plays this season, especially in the running game, and he probably plays harder than any receiver we've had here in a while. One thing for certain is that Coles absolutely seals the perimeter on rushing downs, much like P-Dub in his prime, and a far cry from Housh jogging around out there when the ball isn't going his way (which he apparently has taken with him to Seattle).

Although some will point to the production lost, I'd STILL take the Coles-for-TJ trade any day of the week. The more disappointing thing for me is the fact that it appears that Caldwell has reached a plateau, after showing some real promise earlier in the season.

Maybe this is the point where people begin to talk about Dez Bryant as the top pick in April, which I'll admit is entirely a possibility. "He continues to work hard" is Marvinese for "He's not what we thought he would be", regarding Jerome Simpson, while our starting WRs might be the oldest pair in the league.

[Pidge]

I'd have been thuper happy with the Jerome pick in about the 5th or 6th rnd, maybe even 4th. Nobody is surprised that he's not seen the field in any meaningful way (one catch is it?) in his year and a bit in the league though are they? Disappointed maybe but not surprised. It's a pity and one can wonder what might have been with another player but at least it's not seriously hurting the team.

Huge whiff though and I hope what we saw this last April continues in the future and means that the f**king gonk who decided to burn a high pick on the project to end all projects has once and for all decided to eff off when it comes to decisions on draft day.

Anyways, as for Coles. Could have done better in the passing game but what he lacks for in that aspect he makes up in hustle in the run game and veteran awareness, like tackling players on turnovers or even busting a gut to recover a fumble 20 yds ahead of him. He isn't a liability in the passing game anyway, just not explosive, as some might have ignorantly assumed he'd be. Always had the smell of a one yr kinda deal and I wouldn't be shocked if he and the Bengals parted ways in the off-season.

Really wish we'd have taken the two 1st rnd picks the Skins offered us for Chad (if there was any truth to the rumours)